2016 Postmortem

mhatrw

(10,786 posts) Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:53 PM Mar 2016

538 has underestimated Sanders in EVERY state outside of the Deep South.

Every single state. More often than not by more than 10%.

Hillary Clinton is the worst candidate ever.

Even with the full force of corporate media, the Democratic party, the Democratic establishment, the Democratic machine, voting machines, and all of power of the top 0.1%, the best she can do outside of the Deep Red South is to eke out a tie!

Republicans loathe her. The Democrats could not possibly pick a worse candidate in terms of motivating the Republican base to vote against her in droves, while leaving the Democratic base cold.

She is about as popular with independents as herpes is.

And she is the focus of an ongoing FBI investigation.

When will the Democratic party realize that it has been cheating for a losing horse?

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538 has underestimated Sanders in EVERY state outside of the Deep South. (Original Post) mhatrw Mar 2016 OP

Exit polls: Clinton DID NOT connect with MI voters. johnnyrocket Mar 2016 #1

I'd like to K&R your post renate Mar 2016 #2

She would lose all of her Red States to a Republican in the general Lorien Mar 2016 #3

She'd still have her place in history AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #6

kick! kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #4

No more than a day or so ago they were saying SheilaT Mar 2016 #5

LOL. They are purposefully lying. mhatrw Mar 2016 #7

This is a massive rotten egg on 538's face AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #8

No. Michigan was hard to poll. fun n serious Mar 2016 #9

Proving again that oppo research a.k.a. negative advertising works. ucrdem Mar 2016 #10

Power to the People! Kittycat Mar 2016 #11

johnnyrocket

(1,773 posts)

1. Exit polls: Clinton DID NOT connect with MI voters.

Reply to mhatrw (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:55 PM

Mar 2016

Yes, she is a bad candidate. She could still implode at some point.

renate

(13,776 posts)

2. I'd like to K&R your post

Reply to mhatrw (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:55 PM

Mar 2016

Except I don't share such negative feelings about Hillary.

I'm super excited about the results tonight, though! I LOVE the way that polls showing him behind are going to have at least a whiff of WRONG about them from now on. And I really hope you're right about Bernie being underestimated outside of the South.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)

3. She would lose all of her Red States to a Republican in the general

Reply to mhatrw (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:55 PM

Mar 2016

what would that leave her with?

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)

6. She'd still have her place in history

Reply to Lorien (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:36 AM

Mar 2016

as a key figure in the development of the Trans Pacific Partnership

kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)

4. kick!

Reply to mhatrw (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:56 PM

Mar 2016

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)

5. No more than a day or so ago they were saying

Reply to mhatrw (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:32 AM

Mar 2016

Hillary had a 99% chance of winning Michigan. If they'd had her at 51%, I'd take their being wrong as just the kind of thing that can happen with polling, but they said 99%. I think their fundamental problem is that their polls are basically looking backward, and they dimply have no way of seeing how much the more people learn about Bernie the more they turn to him.