What happened to them?

Rachel...it's so bizarre. She was as Progressive as Olbermann--and Hillary isn't Progressive.

Maybe they all had bets on the Michigan primary or something?

I think she genuinely admires Hillary to be sure, but beyond that I have no theory as to why she's so in the tank for HRC. You'd think, based on policy, she'd be pro-SBS, but it's abundantly clear that she's not.

Regardless. She's entitled to her opinion and I respect it. I just don't like seeing it aired so openly on national TV. JMO.

Rachael doesn't seem 'in the tank' for Clinton to me. She seems like she tries to be fairly neutral on the Democratic side and seems very warm with Sanders when she's interviewed him.

I think they were perplexed at the polling and their own predictions. Truthfully I thought the conversation was pretty lively talking about why Clinton lost. I heard lots of mention of her trustworthiness issue and even whether she should could be trusted to not go back on her word w/ the TTP and stuff.

Bubble of DC insiders.

The RIGHT side

They have been backing the wrong horse.

It's not necessarily terrible that any of them support Clinton, it's how they support Clinton. Thom Hartmann has shown it's possible to support Clinton without throwing Bernie and liberals in general under the bus.

I guess

Maybe she had money on Clinton?

"I have FU money! You know what that means? I don't care what management or anyone else thinks!"

I guess Rachel doesn't think she's there yet
Or, never intends to get there

That's a quote I would use personally, and I know I don't have that kind of money. I just rarely give a damn for what others think of me.

Me thinks she'll not be allowed as I can't name one media outlet she could accomplish this. There are a few liberal ones, Democracy Now comes to mind, but come on, she was only allowed to get her message out prior to MSNBC's sale.

There jobs are on the line now . MSNBC have been ready to fire nearly anyone that don't tow the road on rightness and all of them were wrong, wrong, wrong about Bernie not winning Michigan.

The problem with Rachel is that she grew up and sold out. My brother and I noticed this phenomenon in the Reagan era of the 1980s. People who before that time were idealists suddenly appeared on television selling the very product that the week before they were complaining about. When you are making a six figure salary, and you get to be seen with the rich and famous, and your job depends on espousing the corporate line, you start to see the “value” of the corporate line where you didn’t before. Rachel has in fact become a media whore.

feel differently politically and in terms of their ratings than the people who used to sign their checks.

If they wanted to keep doing what they were doing, they have to play along and move to the center or right of center - fishing for ratings and top exec support. If not, they can join Melissa Harris-Perry and watch MSNBC from home.

I think that's what it comes down to.

Feel the Bern !

and I was hoping maybe a slice of humble pie too.

Where's Judy Garland when you most need her?

and Bernie won both Kansas and Oklahoma
The question is whether MASS was an outlier

If the paper ballots in MA were to be recounted, Bernie would be discovered as having won by a considerable margin, about the same margin that he won in the places where the votes ON ACTUAL PAPER were counted BY HAND.

Sometimes I think there is a secret Wall Street of Elections, where elections here, there and everywhere get bought, sold and traded among the Elect. I won't go on. I get a little too ct sometimes. Still, it IS possible, with our current, largely unverifiable, PRIVATIZED vote counting systems almost everywhere.

I didn't know about the different counting methods in MA. I suspect you're right. The electronic vote counting systems are kind of like the health care system--all of it made so complicated and technical, ordinary citizens can't understand it. That is a signature of privatization.

There's probably something like that too.

They are so biased. So biased.

Sorry, I'm just sick of damn blue screens.

that Bernie was likely to win, instead of mentioning anything about Bernie they started discussing how this would affect Hillary's choice for running mate.

Bunch of fake journalists.

I could not believe my ears. A story like this going on as they spoke... and they were still talking about Hillary as the 100% guaranteed nominee.

I'm not pretending this means Bernie isn't still the underdog, but this is a race, not a pro forma exercise, and they should knock that crap off.

time for them to turn in whatever journalist papers that might be hanging up on their walls.

The largest turn around in primary history and their big news was 'Sherrod Brown could be Hillary's running mate'.

Idiotic bunch of sell out asshats ... and that includes you too Rachael (someone I used to respect.)

I can't find that story anywhere.

senior or not, and your thread should be edited or deleted.

negotiating with? Politicians.

I don't know who in the world they think is going to be watching now.

Progressives were their core group.

It's not like the Republicans are going to flock to them. They still think they're part of the "liberal media."

It seems like all of the heads at RT America are screwed on correctly, obviously because unlike our US state media, Russian state media has no stake in American politics. I miss the daily dose of Abby Martin though.

I thought the toad was going to throw his shoulder out with all that arm flaying...

MSNBC is Comcast-owned...and Comcast is extremely RW.

MSNBC: The Trump Channel.

MSNBC: The voice of the One Party.

MSNBC: You can spell "Oligarchy" without M, S, N, B, or C...but why would you want to?

...meh. The MI upset is the headline.

...is watching their amazing new political career die aborning.

I remember the Iowa caucus and how few comments were made regarding an effective tie and that delegates would be split, even from the MSNBC hosts. They've really hurt their brand this campaign cycle -- though it could also be said they're doing a great job of moving away from being perceived as left-of-center.

upstairs somewhere. Chris Hayes is another brilliant commentator I normally look to, but lately his show is 90% Trump, followed by a succession of Clinton surrogates catching softballs he lightly tosses in their direction.

It's like they've become Pod People.

Good way to describe it. Personally, I cannot think of the last time I watched MSNBC. Oh wait, it was when Rachel did her one hour useless "special" on the Flint Water Crisis. Useless as the topic was rushed through at best.

After that point, haven't watch MSNBC since.

You get the Golden Ring for the Best Explanation of the Corpo-Fascist News Imitation of Journalism that I've ever seen. Their talking heads have been icked and taken over!

talking heads on CNN better.

bernie still plans on staying in till the convention

no shit sherlock, he just won the biggest upset in recent primary history but he will drop out now....


give me a fuckin break, corporate losers!

but every time I tune in to MSNBC, there's Trump giving a speech.
Honestly!

It was stream of conscious babbling about how great he was, how many great properties he has, how he has won many club championships (total bullshit) in golf, etc. And I got that from having him on mute most of the time and taking it off for maybe 30 seconds every 5 minutes.

From what I understand, the RNC establishment money has been hammering on Trump in Florida all week and he seemed rattled.

Made a comment tonight about Trump getting so much free publicity, including 40 minutes straight tonight on MSNBC. He quickly realized what he had said and added that the other networks did this, too. I expect someone will have an unpleasant email from management in his Inbox tomorrow morning.

Will be going the way of Melissa Harris Perry...

These fuckers aren't even trying to hide it.

And then they started acting like of course Hillary would be the nominee, no matter what, and the main function of Michigan was to guide her in her choice of running mate. They all decided that Sherrod Brown would be Veep.

I can see John Cleese as the smarmy arrogant news announcer, in total denial of reality.

BUT I still favor the "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" theory (see above). These people have been TAKEN OVER. They are not themselves. Their children scream in terror when they come home: "That's not my Mommy!" or "That's not my Daddy!" Cuz they are Pod People!

To put it mildly, I don't think this strategy is going to work....

Sam

But let's leave that up to Bernie when the time comes.

They had to fill up the time and they had that ready to go.

They just had to modify the segue to get into it.

they did one short segment where they went remote to the Sanders camp, then quickly transitioned back to "All GOP All The Time".

The story line they are playing out now?

"Sanders takes a close one in Mich ... Hillary wins in a landslide in Miss"

Not a single mention as to the the significance of the Sanders win and the historic turn around. And now back to GOP news.

Fuck MSNBC has become such a crap "news" station. Cowards are all afraid if they mention Bernie more than twice an hour they will be fired.

corp money for this kind of propaganda seems limitless even if they have no viewers.

how many phone calls, emails etc. they have received this election season ?

Pounding us over the head with the bullshit delegate total that includes the super delegates.

Bias is sorta fun to watch in a way. Tonight has been fun. It's always neat to see a worm turning and scripts being shredded on the air.

Sadly Rachael had so much potential. But KO she is NOT!

was that they were in the middle of a discussion defending themselves for not making the call when the call was made. Brian Williams practically slumped in his chair when he had to interrupt to give the result.

on twitter of course.

showing their reactions. Hmmm...

Peter Beinert and Van Jones no excuses - good analysis. The others - Gloria Borger(?) OMG! I so hope Bernie sharpens his debate skills. He's got to do better tomorrow night. Just talking about Hillary's cheap shots put him in hard position. Does he react angrily, give back cheap shots, just call her out? Kind of depends on the hosts a bit.
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He has so many specifics he can throw at her but he keeps going back to the same message. If he wants to message getting the middle class back which is his main message, show how that will help black americans the most. Appointing honest administrators to regulatory agencies will help poor people like in Flint the most. He doesn't do that.

I miss Olberman. And Dylan Ratigan and Ed Schultz.

sketch in which no matter what a diner ordered all he could get was a cheeseburger. Michigan voters selected Bernie, but the shills only want to talk about Hillary.

A once decent network has gone straight into the shitter.

For a long time
Cheeburger
Cheeburger fries Pepsi
Yep they are one notes and their network is shit
Never thought I would watch cnn instead - but they are the grown ups now

Monty Python skit--yes, apt (see above). Say, "The Dead Parrot." Just thought of that one. (Customer trying to return a dead parrot to the the pet store he bought it from. Clerk tries to deny that it is dead.)



But my favorite is "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." (See above.) The journalists have been snatched, messed with in an icky vegetable and turned into Pod People!

Mostly because I couldn't stand Chuck Todd. CNN coverage wasn't bad.

But I cannot stand Anderson Pooper.

Not really seeing any bias against Hillary, he just thinks he is so funny with all his little jokes and commentary. I guess I'm having a hard time letting the past go with him, I find his constant attempts at humour annoying.


Peace

asking JANE if bernie will be in until the convention

They are all the same corporate pieces of garbage.

Fuck Matthews
Fuck Brian Williams
Fuck NBC
Fuck CNBC
Fuck CNBC (Can't say that enough)
Fuck NBC-Sports
Fuck Jim Cramer
and so on and so on and so on

Seems energized by the close race, not bummed

I am so glad that we are able to rain on their Shilling Parade.

It's too bad. They once were the network of Keith Olbermann ffs.

Only have a dozen or so channels for $25.00 a month now. I'm saving $70.00 a month by getting rid of this garbage and yes, that is what it is alright, GARBAGE!!!

& recommend.

How things are covered, not covered, or covered-up on M$M in real time
effect all the other variables -- more than we would like admittedly. I
try not to expect anything much in the way of real journalism .. yet I am
sometimes pleasantly surprised.

M$M absolutely needs to be balanced, fact-checked, and supplemented by
doing one's own research on-line, social media, alternative media (like TYT,
Democracy Now, et, al.) and the like.

I just found that my blood pressure went down, once I quit watching. I get most of my news links here at DU, or other websites.

Every now and then, I listen to Lester Holt report the evening news. No inflection, no commentary...I kind of like it that way. I can smile or frown all by myself, without any prompting. I don't feel that I need them to shape my opinion.

hope you know that.

and I respect your choices re what you watch etc.

but seriously ..don't you watch the debates when they're on M$M,
which the always are?

Fucking traitors.

Pundits

It's only, what? Approx. 90%?
They could ramp it up another 5% without their audience even noticing.

For the rest they could fill in with shots of Hillary looking "presidential", which Hillary has down pat, adding an explanation that she's the formidable front runner and no opposition candidate exists or ever existed in past or future, except some ridiculous figure conjured to "push her to the left" for the "campaign".

Sounds like a plan, to me.

Evening News Show with Harry Trump, and Nina and Tina Trump (twins). Spectacle graphics, triumphant music featuring trumpets, photos of Trump and $100 bills blown up real big in the background. Zoom in on the three Trump talking heads who announce..."Donald Trump successfully picked his nose today, twice, on his private jet flying out of Ronald Reagan International!" Audience wildly clapping. Zoom out. Nobody in the studio. Zoom in. Talking heads: "Continuing with the successful nose picking...". Distant, distant, way far away shot of Hillary's queenly smile. Talking heads: "And the woman Donald Trump will crush today with his bare hands..." (Ten pix of Trump's hands in various poses.) "The hilarious Queen of the Losers, smiled at a camera. Back to Donald Trump and his epic nose-picking. Look at those hairs!"

Then maybe Bernie is seen crawling quietly into the studio, unnoticed, and edges in behind the display table where Harry, Nina and Tina are celebrating celebrity snot...

And then, well...use your imagination!

to replace the audience that they are shooing out the door.

We gave it up a long time ago, and our thinking is much clearer.

Their marketing of products, celebrities, politicians, and ways of life is ineffective for us.

Even PBS is owned at this point.

You always tell your lies every time that you move your lips
And you always shout and point at Bernie with your finger tips
Hillary's trying hard not to show it, Tweety,
But Tweety, Hillary's gonna blow it
Tweety's lost that tingly feeling
Oh that tingly feeling
He's lost that tingly feeling
Now it's gone...gone...gone...woah

Hillary, Hillary, Tweety'll do anything for you,
(ba dum ba dum ba dum ba dum)
If you give his wife money, like you always do, yeah
(ba dum ba dum ba dum)
You flip and flop, and spin, and lie everyday
And it looks like your coronation will slip away..