2016 Postmortem

LSK

(36,846 posts) Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:19 AM Mar 2016

How much of tonite's Michigan vote was about NAFTA ?

Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law. Hillary has a tough time distancing herself from that. Sending most of the auto jobs to Mexico and abroad has decimated Michigan. Seems to me Bernie is obviously the one who can honestly speak towards bringing our jobs back over Hillary having been against NAFTA way back then.

Perhaps all the pundits and pollsters forgot that sometimes campaigns come down to issues?

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How much of tonite's Michigan vote was about NAFTA ? (Original Post) LSK Mar 2016 OP

Senator Riegle's comment about the Clintons "ramming NAFTA down our throats" may have hurt reformist2 Mar 2016 #1

Speculative. I do know that the video is interesting, and shows the character of the man who silvershadow Mar 2016 #2

Great video. Thank you. You have to love Bernie Sanders.. CentralMass Mar 2016 #3

A LOT. But not as much about trustworthiness. Barack_America Mar 2016 #4

Michigan has been in trouble for about 3 decades now maybe longer. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #5

Roger and Me was made in the 80s wasnt it? LSK Mar 2016 #6

Yes it was Kalidurga Mar 2016 #7

I don't think voters are that sophisticated. longship Mar 2016 #8

Tonight's vote was that same as every other fucking vote outside of the South. mhatrw Mar 2016 #9

reformist2

(9,841 posts)

1. Senator Riegle's comment about the Clintons "ramming NAFTA down our throats" may have hurt

Reply to LSK (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:20 AM

Mar 2016

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

2. Speculative. I do know that the video is interesting, and shows the character of the man who

Reply to reformist2 (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:25 AM

Mar 2016

was the subject of the OP and so to answer the OP's actual question: A lot.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)

3. Great video. Thank you. You have to love Bernie Sanders..

Reply to LSK (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:27 AM

Mar 2016

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)

4. A LOT. But not as much about trustworthiness.

Reply to LSK (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:27 AM

Mar 2016

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

5. Michigan has been in trouble for about 3 decades now maybe longer.

Reply to LSK (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:28 AM

Mar 2016

So, yes NAFTA maybe fresher in people's minds. But, it is not why Michigan has problems it's a reason those problems got worse. It's a good issue to talk about in any case, but really the whole state has needs that have gone unmet since at least the early 80's probably before that even, I am just going by my own memories of growing up in Michigan and watching the decline and becoming very aware of the effects as I became a teenager looking for a job and watching my friends struggle and watching my family losing ground.

LSK

(36,846 posts)

6. Roger and Me was made in the 80s wasnt it?

Reply to Kalidurga (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:29 AM

Mar 2016

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

7. Yes it was

Reply to LSK (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:30 AM

Mar 2016

longship

(40,416 posts)

8. I don't think voters are that sophisticated.

Reply to LSK (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:36 AM

Mar 2016

I think that when folks go into the voting booth, they think like me. Who is going to do the best job for us? Or maybe just for me!

There have been many polls recently that show both Bernie and Hillary against the GOP slate. Bernie always comes out on top. Why is that? Electability?

Here's Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks on that very topic. And yes, he is pissed off. I love to hear Cenk in high dudgeon.

Oopsie! Video fixed. George Martin died today so I had a Beatles tune cued up.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)

9. Tonight's vote was that same as every other fucking vote outside of the South.

Reply to LSK (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:44 AM

Mar 2016

BREAKING: Bernie Sanders Has Now Won 9 of the Last 10 States Outside of the South

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