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Delegates Count: Clinton 762 vs Sanders 544 (Original Post) TheDormouse Mar 2016 OP
Super delegates. dogman Mar 2016 #1
if Bernie ends up with a pledged delegate lead ibegurpard Mar 2016 #3
That's why there will be a concentrated effort to stop him. dogman Mar 2016 #10
1st year they counted super delegates this early.... LSK Mar 2016 #4
Even DWS has said it's wrong to report them! vintx Mar 2016 #14
...are anti-Democratic BS. If Bernie does beat the odds and win the regular delegate count, do you Chakab Mar 2016 #6
There is a good documentary on youtube about the 68 Democratic convention. dogman Mar 2016 #9
I could see it if it's a narrow win. joshcryer Mar 2016 #19
If Superdelegates take it away from the voters.... davidn3600 Mar 2016 #7
Actually, in a perverse way, I'd like to see a situation where the DNC tried to give the nomination Chakab Mar 2016 #12
South is over. The rest of the country is voting. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #2
BREAKING NEWS: Bernie Sanders Has Now Won 9 of the Last 10 States Outside of the South! mhatrw Mar 2016 #20
I think that's all of them, no? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #22
I'm seeing 744 540 Gregorian Mar 2016 #5
different sources, different counts -- it's indeed confusing TheDormouse Mar 2016 #16
On the link I posted you can uncheck the box dogman Mar 2016 #23
Wait... According to MSNBC SDJay Mar 2016 #8
+1 Million. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #11
lol TheDormouse Mar 2016 #13
Why the confusion? It's a horse race, ergo, closeupready Mar 2016 #15
LOL!!! You were watching Kornacki too! jillan Mar 2016 #24
BERNIE'S DOOOOOOOMMMEEEDDDDDDD!11!!1 merrily Mar 2016 #17
LOL !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #18
& the upcoming states won't be as demographically tilted toward HRC TheDormouse Mar 2016 #21

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. if Bernie ends up with a pledged delegate lead
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:39 AM
Mar 2016

Going into the convention and super delegates swing it the other way the party is destroyed. Utterly.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
10. That's why there will be a concentrated effort to stop him.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:51 AM
Mar 2016

The kitchen sink is still being thrown at him. Moneyed interests are severely threatened.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
14. Even DWS has said it's wrong to report them!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:55 AM
Mar 2016

In 2008, when Clinton ran against then-Senator Barack Obama, the Times treated the number of pledged delegates as the accurate and current delegate count in the race. The Times counted “only delegates that have been officially selected and are bound by their preferences.”

“The way the media has been reporting this is incorrect,” DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said on MSNBC on February 27. “There aren’t pledged delegates, i.e. super delegates, earned at any of these primary or caucus contests. Those unpledged delegates are elected officials, party leaders, people who have spent years and years in the Democratic Party. Members of Congress, our DNC members are super delegates. And they have the ability to decide who they choose to support at the convention at any point.”

“They’re really free to decide all the way up until July,” Wasserman Schultz added. She later added that combining “super delegates” with “pledged delegates” from primaries or caucuses at each phase of the contest does not provide an “accurate picture” of how this works.

In other words, when MSNBC puts up graphics like this, it is not reporting the truth of what is unfolding in the primary race:



from http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/03/07/clinton-benefits-us-medias-misleading-reporting-delegate-counts

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
6. ...are anti-Democratic BS. If Bernie does beat the odds and win the regular delegate count, do you
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:40 AM
Mar 2016

think that the party would be stupid enough to give Hillary the nomination based on super delegates? There would be riots at the Convention.

Remember, she had the vast majority of super delegates locked up early the last time too. Most of them defected as Obama won more and more primaries and caucuses.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
9. There is a good documentary on youtube about the 68 Democratic convention.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:47 AM
Mar 2016

That led to the super delegate concept. There were some riots there. I remember watching a lot of the footage when it was on the local tv. I remember wondering if the candle light march at the end of the convention would end in another police riot.

As to this instance, I would hope common sense would prevail. I just wouldn't count on that coming from DWS.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
19. I could see it if it's a narrow win.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:03 AM
Mar 2016

Even if almost all of the supers switch sides there would be holdouts that wouldn't switch.

Say a 10-20 delegate lead by Sanders could probably be tilted the other way. Dean, for instance, says he's not switching and that he's using his vote the way he intends, etc.

It would be epically bad.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
7. If Superdelegates take it away from the voters....
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:44 AM
Mar 2016

....the Democratic party will burn down along with the Republicans.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
12. Actually, in a perverse way, I'd like to see a situation where the DNC tried to give the nomination
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:53 AM
Mar 2016

to Hillary via superdelegates in tandem with a brokered convention on the Republican side where they tried to give the nomination to Romney. You would see the establishment in both parties lose all credibility and a wide scale revolt against the two party system.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
20. BREAKING NEWS: Bernie Sanders Has Now Won 9 of the Last 10 States Outside of the South!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:03 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511450690

Hillary will soon be fresh out of Southern states

dogman

(6,073 posts)
23. On the link I posted you can uncheck the box
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:15 AM
Mar 2016

next to "Count unpledged delegates More info » " and it will subtract super delegates from the total

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
8. Wait... According to MSNBC
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:47 AM
Mar 2016

It's like eleven billion trillion Brazilian for HRC to -326 for SBS.

I'm confused.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
15. Why the confusion? It's a horse race, ergo,
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:55 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary is, de facto, our new two-term president!! Bernie should resign yesterday.

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
21. & the upcoming states won't be as demographically tilted toward HRC
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:04 AM
Mar 2016

as some of the states that have already voted have been, especially all those Deep South states

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