2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDonald Trump is coming after Hillary Clinton
He made the announcement.. take it to the bank.. he is going to do the trump thing that they love so much on the right.. he has been destroying their party..
He will now try and destroy my party.. The Democratic Party.
First he will come for Hillary..and Bill.. take it to the bank.. full force..
And if he succeeds to do to HRC what he did to everyone else including the entire Republican party.. he will come after Bernie Sanders..
This is his MO.. this is what he does..
I am standing with HRC because she is going to need all the the support she can get to survive this..
She will be taking all the incoming post 3/15/2016..
rgoop
(76 posts)We can not underestimate him. If Bernie and Hillary supports do not come together against Trump there will be a president Trump. He has to be stopped.
BernieforPres2016
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ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Bernie is the only one who stands a chance.
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nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Are behind Bernie because they are sick of the establishment -- i.e. Hillary. They're sick of being fed the same old political bullshit -- i.e. Hillary. They're sick of the corruption in the upper reaches of the party -- i.e. Hillary. They're sick of seeing the banksters get preferential treatment -- i.e. Hillary.
Why in the name of dog should they vote for her. The sad fact is that Trump is so changeable, you don't know what he would do as president. And some of his ideas, while they serve as red meat for this followers, are so outlandish he wouldn't be able to do them.
But we know pretty much exactly what Mrs. Clinton will do -- and it's downright frightening. She has a warlike streak and she loves to blow things up and destabilize democratically elected governments. She is a dangerous, dangerous woman.
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Stallion
(6,473 posts)Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)That is what he does.. Hillary is the first one in line..but he has his sights on Bernie also.. Its not about winning the popular vote for him.. its about destroying his percieved enemies..
Stallion
(6,473 posts)the rest of America hates him. 61.7% Unfavorable Rating. Every time he opens his mouth his unfavorable go up
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BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Support for every major trade deal that have destroyed hundreds of thousands of good American jobs, her cozy relationship with Wall Street and her hawkish views on foreign policy including her vote for the Iraq War.
The good news for Hillary is that people don't trust Trump any more than they do Hillary, so that is not as bad an issue for her versus Trump as it is for her against Bernie.
If you're worried about Trump, perhaps you might want to reconsider Bernie versus Hillary.
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insta8er
(960 posts)As most or all of you have seen MSM is in his pocket, dedicating some of that airtime to $hillery it even more focuses on her rather then on his real thread...Sanders.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I thought she was an iron hard battle tested stand up to anyone WARRIOR! LOL
If she can't handle a douchebag like Drumpf she REALLY doesn't need to be in the White House....
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Beacool
(30,247 posts)He would go just as hard against Sanders if he were the nominee. Trump plays dirty and has no filter. It's become evident that he can say anything against anyone and his supporters will eat it up. This is one crazy election season.
I keep repeating myself, but in November I would vote for a turnip if it had a "D" after its name. Anyone on our side would be better than Trump. The thought that this crass vile man could be president is frightening.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)With what?
Bernie has a wallet.
Hillary has every damn luggage store on the planet filled with baggage.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)He'll call him a Socialist and Communist, he'll point out the flag that he had in his office as mayor. He'll call him un-American. Who knows what else he'll bring up. Trump has no class whatsoever.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)You honestly think that compares to 30 years of crap they have on Hillary and Bill?
It isn't even close.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)This isn't 1952. He's welcome to try.
OkSustainAg
(203 posts)Get the Bernie Choppa. Quick.
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)She has more baggage and this is exactly what us Sanders have been saying.
You are going to see the biggest take down of Hillary and the Clinton dynasty that you have ever witnessed in your life. There is nothing she can do to stop it either.
She can NOT win.
This is why and what Trump will do is exploit that to the full maximum potential.
We need Bernie as the nominee.
Cavallo
(348 posts)I keep seeing an infantile little man with no depth.
I don't think Trump can stand up to anybody with integrity.
I expect pre-juvenile quips out of him with nothing behind them and both Bernie and Hillary to deftly explain any position and have the audience grasp what they're saying. I think he'll be so out of his league that he'll do what he's been doing for the last several months - skip answering them and result to bullying attacks. I don't think it will work with Bernie or Hillary. Neither will be bullied or phased by someone with so little integrity or even the ability to stay on topic to confront them on any actual issue. They'll let him look like the jackarse he is, while they answer intelligently evert time.
jcgoldie
(11,613 posts)Maybe this makes me an old elitist or something but it seems to me that Trump's vapid soundbites and confrontational style in the absence of any substance is what is driving his popularity. It really seems that in the age of reality TV people fall asleep listening to informed candidates like Hillary and Bernie explain policy point by point. Who wants to listen to boring politicians talk about boring policy when you can see Trump mouth off about the size of his johnson?
On another note did anyone listen to Garrison Keillor's show last weekend? I loved the conversation between 2 fictional Trump supporters... "I just love Trump because he says what we wish we could say but are afraid to because other people will think we're stupid!"
So good.
Cavallo
(348 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)PufPuf23
(8,755 posts)herself up for an assault by Trump and damage to the Democratic Party regardless of Trump.
Sanders may well become the Democratic nominee because of Trump (and I would not be disappointed at all).
Sanders is no where near as vulnerable as Clinton or most other pols to Trump.
I agree that Trump is a force of destruction (as well as a mirror of the dark heart of many Americans).
Nitram
(22,768 posts)one and all
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)This is one area we can all unite.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The idea of Trump "coming after" either of our democrats beings this to mind:
Bring it, Littlefinger.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)You're voting for her because you believe she's more electable.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)meaningful change. The "Democrats" susceptible to Trump's stunts are already with him. His problem is to hold them until the election. His act does become old and worn.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)If she doesn't capitalize on all the excess baggage Trump has around his neck, she will lose and deservedly so. Trump lies about everything and knows absolutely nothing, and is too lazy to bother reading and preparing himself about anything. I watched a GOP pundit discussing him the other night about his total lack of educating himself on any foreign policy and the nonsensical things he says, the lack of policy positions, and the lack of understanding of how government works, and the limitations of the powers of the Executive Branch of government. The fact that he lies about absolutely EVERYTHING, i.e. Trump University, Trump Water, Trump Steaks, Trump Wine, Trump Magazine, Trump Airlines, well the political ads will write themselves. The fraud, H1B Visas he uses to avoid paying American workers at his Hotels and Golf Courses a living wage, the affairs, the immigrant wives, the bankruptcies, the lies, the torcher claims, the stupid things he says and then tries to walk back, the ignorance of the things he should know as a candidate for the President of the US, all will be revealed. If the woman whose lifetime has prepared her for this moment, who her peers and even members of the opposite party have complimented her on her abilities and her having always being prepared, is not prepared to take on the Orange Man with the Bad Hair when he comes for her, she will lose and she deserves so.
But I don't think she WILL lose.