2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy are both of our candidates lying about outsourced jobs coming back to America??? There will be
manual labor jobs or telemarketing jobs coming back to the US for humans. Robots will be taking over most manual jobs
and some thinking jobs. I don't think any of the candidates want to touch upon this. Pres. Obama when he was running told
everyone that those manufacturing jobs were not coming back. We need to get retrained and find the jobs of the future. Green jobs
etc. There are many articles out there discussing this real threat. 35% of existing jobs will be done by robots.
I understand that people are hurting and want to hear that someone will bring back jobs. I think this is an overt lie that the
media and politicians don't want to address.
Here are some articles regarding the future.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/15/news/economy/smart-robots-stealing-jobs-davos/
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/05/robot-revolution-rise-machines-could-displace-third-of-uk-jobs
This article in particular is scary because it highlights how income disparity is likely to grow wider, not come together. No trade
deal cancellation will change the future that is looming closer than ever.
Amazon article:
http://www.roboticstrends.com/article/how_amazon_drone_delivery_will_work
Cleita
(75,480 posts)That's how they will be brought back.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)return to humans.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)If we are no longer getting them from overseas we need to manufacture the goods ourselves like we used to. Making steel was one of our big job producers until trade agreements brought us Chinese steel. This is only the tip of what will come back to us once we trash the trade agreements.
dogman
(6,073 posts)The idea of a UBI(Universal Basic Income) seems the most workable to me. Some countries are looking at this because of the workforce change no one has really prepared for. We'll have to get to Democratic Socialism first I think.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)this country it won't happen until it is dire. I agree with this basic concept. I think Americans will have a major problem with this
idea. People getting something for nothing. People are scoffing at the idea that robots will take a lot of manual jobs, but we
have Amazon as a clear example of what is right around the corner.
FSogol
(45,470 posts)Pisces
(5,599 posts)around the corner, not some distant syfy future.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)It's misleading to say the candidates are lying about this
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)would help to lower labor costs and from that help to make Americans more competitive on the world job market. That would help some. But it's going to take time before that come about.
Improvement on the trade deals is not impossible and would also help some. That's going to take time.
The infrastructure plans of Bernie's will help add new jobs in America.
Bernie's thrust for renewable energy will help add some jobs - but take other jobs away from the oil industry over time.
Bernie's plans for income inequality - in part delivered by single payer, will inject more disposable income into the US economy and help generate job growth from that. I know the economist that looked at it got criticized for the accuracy of his first pass but the principles of his assumptions seem valid and Bernie's policies should help the economy overall.
There is probably more than those quick thoughts.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)and undo them. It isn't rocket science, and it isn't mysterious.
Yes it will take time even so. But spending American money here, on American companies ONLY, plus a hefty infrastructure program would do wonders.
We need a New Deal 2.0. Most of the infrastructure we have was built then, and that is not a coincidence.
mythology
(9,527 posts)People haven't come to grips with this change yet. I don't think it will be as bad as some projections, but I do think it will be more significant of a change than previous large scale changes like industrialization or the growth of agriculture.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)So we're stuck with which lie we want to pretend to believe.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)At that point the shipping and logistics costs make outsourcing more expensive than keeping a factory here. It ain't rocket science.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)You have a point, and automation is a problem in terms of workers.
But rather than condoning making it worse by shipping remaining jobs out of the US, I think keeping those jobs in the US should be a priority.
Omaha Steve
(99,568 posts)The future POTUS in his own words. He forgot this right after the last vote was counted.