2016 Postmortem
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Higher wages for Wall Street.
Lower wages for you.
More jobs for India, China, Vietnam, Mexico
Fewer jobs for citizens.
Fewer regulations for Wall Street
Social Security on the table.
More war and foreign intervention, trillions to pay for it.
Less investment in education and jobs programs.
More privatization of prisons and law enforcement.
Fewer chances for people to get out of poverty.
More tax breaks for health care industry.
Fewer positive health care outcomes with higher costs.
More mingling of public trust and personal finacial gain.
Less transparency and accountability.
Lending more credibility to Reagan and Kissinger using revisionist propaganda.
Demonizing FDR as an unrealistic dreamer.
Hillary is running a campaign that virtually promises to screw the middle class. That's the best we can do isn't it?
The insideous nature of our political monopoly is that as long as the right wing keeps pushing farther and farther to the right, conservative carpet baggers will step inside the vacuum left behind to promote themselves as the more reasonable of two very fucked up choices.
That's what the Clinton's third way represents. Rich conservatives want to keep all the social benefits of a liberal worldview without giving up their elite and privileged economic advantage creating an underclass living in poverty and lowering the quality of life for 300 million people.
It seems impossible that any Democrat could cheer for that. By promoting Hillary, you are promoting the destruction of American communities by our corrupt election process. The Wall Street amnesty, prison population and job losses to Mexico and Asia are enough to prove this.
How about resigning your moral obligation to the false choice of lesser evils? Lol. Not quite. That's just a lazy intellectual device hiding the fact that you are just fine with exactly the way things are and you dont give a damn about the world around you.
By not wanting to change the way things are, you are actively contributing to the declining relevance of what it means to be an American. In its place we have an odd sentimentalism and false patriotism manifesting itself in an embarrassing spectacle of lies and insincerity by the two presidential frontrunners.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Haven't you Bernie folks figured out that this is not working? Not here nor anywhere else.
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uponit7771
(90,301 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)saying the truth!!!
Vote for Bernie!!!!
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)Who's next? Venezuela?
Impedimentus
(898 posts)DWS continues as DNC Chair.
FEEL THE BERN - 2016
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)can say maybe it wasn't such a good idea but only after they cashed their paychecks.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)Do you think you're really brilliant, and that the oppressed groups that support Hillary by large margins don't know what they are talking about? Or do you think that maybe you're only reading information spoon fed to you by right wing sites and Bernie campaign sites? Maybe you should try to do a little independent research to try to understand what makes your points so simplistic and unfair.
Let me give you an example. I could ask why anyone would vote for a Bernie, who supports gun rights, vigilante movements (the Minutemen), and the military industrial complex (with his support for the stealth bomber)? Why should anyone support Bernie when there is evidence that his wife might have been involved in some shady deals and that he uses campaign funds to employ his family? Now, everything I wrote is true, and everything I wrote is also unfair, unlike what you wrote, most of which is speculation, and all of which is unfair.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)Onlooker
(5,636 posts)Hillary was rated 11th most progressive member, compared to Obama who was rated 23rd. Bernie is certainly the most progressive, but Hillary is actually quite good. Believe me, the oppressed groups that are voting for Hillary are no fools. Bernie only maintained his pure record because he chose to represent a liberal white state that was almost completely removed from social unrest. But, he didn't even become a Democrat to try to effect change in the Party. He played it safe, but as a result failed to earn the trust of a majority of blacks, Hispanics, gays, and others.
Yes, Hilllary is a progressive. Like Bernie, she has always been to the left of her constituency, but she was representing a constituency as homogeneous as the one Bernie represented.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Tarc
(10,472 posts)whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)I'm back. Just had to check with my superiors if it's OK to post this. Oh wait...
Sorry..just double-checking... Um hang on
OK it's ok to say I'm double checking
And they approved this
And this.
This too.
The,'re good on this as well.
Message discipline needs to be enforced you know.
Btw Ive been cleared for that too