Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:22 PM Mar 2016

Is this a pic of MLK and Bernie together?

Last edited Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Ok honest question here, I just happened upon this on Imgur http://imgur.com/gallery/ML3fE
Is this a pic of Bernie and MLK together? people on there are saying it is indeed.
Thoughts?

EDIT It has been a rather eye opening experience, you can certainly tell who the cynics are within this thread. It's rather sad though that when you ask an real honest question, some people are so incredibly down the rabbit hole that they have lost themselves.
To quote Ice Cube..."You better check yourself before you wreck yourself."

115 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Is this a pic of MLK and Bernie together? (Original Post) pinebox Mar 2016 OP
No way whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #1
I can see some resemblance pinebox Mar 2016 #3
Besides the face not resembling him IMO, the hair is a giveaway whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #15
No JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #2
I'm unsure pinebox Mar 2016 #5
You realize that Bernie Sanders has never,ever made this sufrommich Mar 2016 #4
You'd think so pinebox Mar 2016 #8
Sanders supporters don't do their candidate any favors sufrommich Mar 2016 #19
this just reeks of desperation DesertRat Mar 2016 #115
I would be wary. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #6
"together"? in the same location perhaps. regardless of who it actually is msongs Mar 2016 #11
Ya you're probably right pinebox Mar 2016 #17
The difference in the facial structure is what also struck me. jwirr Mar 2016 #90
Just stop BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #7
Huh? It's a flippin' question dude, chill out. pinebox Mar 2016 #12
"Dude" BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #18
Kodak time! pinebox Mar 2016 #25
Yawn BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #47
Here's some reading material to doze off to UglyGreed Mar 2016 #54
Same shit. Different day. BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #71
"much maligned Prosense" choie Mar 2016 #73
So your response was to point the finger at another candidate. nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #74
Yup choie Mar 2016 #75
Not unexpected. nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #76
MMM can I have some UglyGreed Mar 2016 #88
The tone-deafness is strong in your silly response. nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #92
Your post had nothing to do UglyGreed Mar 2016 #93
Woosh over the head! BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #94
You rambled on UglyGreed Mar 2016 #95
Again the tone-deaf response particuarly since you completely ignored what I wrote. nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #98
I read what you wrote UglyGreed Mar 2016 #103
Welcome to America BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #104
Thanks for the reply UglyGreed Mar 2016 #109
You are welcome BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #110
I'm replying to put this in my journal bravenak Mar 2016 #112
I'm 'decoding' antisemitism. w4rma Mar 2016 #114
Incredible list! Definitely a keeper. drokhole Mar 2016 #86
He is not a boastful man UglyGreed Mar 2016 #87
+1 drokhole Mar 2016 #96
he just asked a damn question choie Mar 2016 #70
And I gave my opinion BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #72
What you wrote was absurd. Deal with it. Vattel Mar 2016 #107
And your response is fitting for the "dude"-hurlers. BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #108
I think it's my grandfather. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #8
No way, unless he has undergone facial reconstruction surgery Armstead Mar 2016 #10
lol pinebox Mar 2016 #13
Peter Sellers maybe Armstead Mar 2016 #16
Jay Leno in another life? pinebox Mar 2016 #20
Alan Sherman? Armstead Mar 2016 #67
That doesn't look like him gollygee Mar 2016 #14
I've no clue pinebox Mar 2016 #21
I'm not even convinced that's MLK without more information. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #22
I saw it here pinebox Mar 2016 #27
That's no help, though. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #43
Yup true hence why I am asking pinebox Mar 2016 #44
I ran a Google search of the image, and it shows up on several sites ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #28
Interesting! pinebox Mar 2016 #30
And here I was thinking 4 a.m. was a bad bedtime... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #36
lol pinebox Mar 2016 #46
Probably not NWCorona Mar 2016 #23
Me too pinebox Mar 2016 #41
No - that looks nothing like Bernie n/t dana_b Mar 2016 #24
No. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #26
I dont' think so but I don't know. There was another one of him marching about 6 feet behind MLK pdsimdars Mar 2016 #29
That wasn't Bernie either. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #48
Nope. No halo. 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #31
No. That's not Bernie. MineralMan Mar 2016 #32
The point is an honest question pinebox Mar 2016 #37
OK, whatever you say. MineralMan Mar 2016 #40
Alrighty pinebox Mar 2016 #42
Not sure. I'm thinking probably not. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #33
Good Grief noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #34
Yes honest questions are silly aren't they? pinebox Mar 2016 #38
Honest Questions noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #49
Oh I would disagree pinebox Mar 2016 #57
You have that right noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #58
Correct pinebox Mar 2016 #69
Love the Gif! monicaangela Mar 2016 #80
Thanks noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #81
Me too! monicaangela Mar 2016 #82
No noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #83
Still waiting to see a pix of Sanders marching with Margaret Sanger. KittyWampus Mar 2016 #35
I'm waiting to see pics of Hillary marching with Ghandi pinebox Mar 2016 #39
she's not a sanctimonious ideologue. Besides, while she was working KittyWampus Mar 2016 #60
Jeez why so serious pinebox Mar 2016 #61
Just sanctimonious without the ideology Armstead Mar 2016 #66
I despise that lady! NWCorona Mar 2016 #50
i have to wonder if this is trolling to hurt Sanders JI7 Mar 2016 #45
Nope pinebox Mar 2016 #63
LOL, no ... doesn't look like him at all Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #51
LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #52
No. dchill Mar 2016 #53
I feel it does UglyGreed Mar 2016 #55
no Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #56
Uncle Frank? gwheezie Mar 2016 #59
lol pinebox Mar 2016 #64
I'm guessing that since he is the only white guy in the picture.... rgbecker Mar 2016 #62
Ech............. pinebox Mar 2016 #65
No, I See No Likeness. I Support Bernie, But Not Him... n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #68
Every white man with glasses in a Civil Rights era photo is Bernie Sanders KingFlorez Mar 2016 #77
I'm not sure...don't think it is him but: monicaangela Mar 2016 #78
That is not Bernie Sanders, sorry madokie Mar 2016 #79
Enough of the dirty political tricks. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #84
You are trying too hard. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #85
Nope SwampG8r Mar 2016 #89
Yes, he has glasses on so it HAS to be him. zappaman Mar 2016 #91
The black rims are a dead give away also riversedge Mar 2016 #102
No. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #97
No. Agschmid Mar 2016 #99
I would say no... whistler162 Mar 2016 #100
Doesn't look like him to me n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #101
I say maybe aspirant Mar 2016 #105
No way, no chance. There are no pictures of bernie sanders with MLK Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #106
Bernie was cuter. senz Mar 2016 #111
Was it really necessary to circle the pic? Reter Mar 2016 #113

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
4. You realize that Bernie Sanders has never,ever made this
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

claim,right? You think maybe he would have mentioned this is passing if it were true?

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
8. You'd think so
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

I am just wondering though. The more i look at that guys face though.....
I was sort of shocked to see this on Imgur and thought "where did this come from?"

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
19. Sanders supporters don't do their candidate any favors
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

by spreading this stuff. I find it hard to believe that none of them took the time to wonder why Sanders has never mentioned hanging out with MLK and having a laugh with him.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
6. I would be wary.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

Why? Because that looks like my dad back in the day. A lot of (I guess we can call them) "Bernie clones" were walking around in those thick, dark glasses back in the day.

I wouldn't say it unless I knew with absolute certainty. It would be an awesome pic if it was. My personal opinion is that that man's face is too long and narrow.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
25. Kodak time!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:31 PM
Mar 2016

You can quit your faux-outrage projection at any time.
No question is a bad question.
Nobody has time for that. Muted.

BumRushDaShow

(128,707 posts)
47. Yawn
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:45 PM
Mar 2016


This obsessive fixation on Sanders' importance in the civil rights movement and attempts to generate a fictional universe around him in that regard, illustrates how desperate people are trying to redeem the man's complete tone deafness since 1968, when he picked up and left the movement behind to go his own way. You don't get to manufacture a biography for him. His bio is out there and his choice was to go non-aligned and build his own thing in Vermont.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
54. Here's some reading material to doze off to
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

Over the past few months, one lingering attack on Bernie Sanders' candidacy for the Democratic nomination is his supposed indifference to racial justice and civil rights issues.

But the truth is, Sanders has a 50-year history of standing up for civil and minority rights, as he told the attendants of Netroots Nation after he was interrupted by Black Lives Matter protesters. Of course, it's understandable that they want to bring attention to the movement. Killings of people from Ferguson to New York City to Los Angeles to Atlanta have finally brought important issues like police brutality, systemic racism, mass incarceration and militarization of the police into the center of national dialogue.

It is up to all candidates for the presidency, including every Democrat, every Republican and independent candidates, to address these issues in a forthright manner and to do outreach and communicate with communities that are besieged by these problems. Although his events in Phoenix, Houston and Dallas, where he loudly condemned police brutality and racism were a start, Sanders owes it to pay attention to these activists and listen to the concerns of marginalized groups whose civil rights have historically been suppressed. Sanders does have a record of fighting on these issues, and it should be only natural for him to be able to comfortably address them before a diverse audience.

Here are 20 ways Sanders has stood up for civil and minority rights, starting in the early 1950s up to the present year.

1. Raising Money For Korean Orphans: International solidarity was an unusual concept for any American to have in the 1950s, let alone a high school student. But one of Sanders' first campaigns was to run for class president at James Madison High School in New York City. His platform was based around raising scholarship funds for Korean war orphans. Although he lost, the person who did win the campaign decided to endorse Sanders' campaign, and scholarships were created.

2. Being Arrested For Desegregation: As a student at the University of Chicago, Sanders was active in both the Congress on Racial Equality (CORE) and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC). In 1962, he was arrested for protesting segregation in public schools in Chicago; the police came to call him an outside agitator, as he went around putting up flyers around the city detailing police brutality.

3. Calling For Full Gay Equality: 40 years ago, Sanders started his political life by running with a radical third party in Vermont called the Liberty Union Party. As a part of the platform, he called for abolishing all laws related to discrimination against homosexuality.

4. Standing Up For Victims Of U.S. Imperialism In Latin America: While mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Sanders formally protested the Reagan government's policy of sending arms to Central America to repress left-wing movements. In 1985, he traveled to Nicaragua to condemn the war on people there. He writes about it in his book Outsider In The House: “The trip to Nicaragua was a profoundly emotional experience....I was introduced to a crowd of hundreds of thousands who gathered for the anniversary celebration. I will never forget that in the front row of the huge crowd were dozens and dozens of amputees in wheelchairs – young soldiers, many of them in their teens, who had lost their legs in a war foisted on them and financed by the U.S. government.”

5 Condemned And Opposed Welfare Reform and Dog Whistle Politics:While President Bill Clinton and most Democrats in Congress supported so-called welfare reform politics, Sanders not only voted against this policy change, but wrote eloquently against the dog whistle politics used to sell it, saying, “The crown jewel of the Republican agenda is their so-called welfare reform proposal. The bill, which combines an assault on the poor, women and children, minorities, and immigrants is the grand slam of scapegoating legislation, and appeals to the frustrations and ignorance of the American people along a wide spectrum of prejudices.”

6. Vocally Condemned and Opposed Death Penalty and Prisons His Entire Political Career: Sanders has long been a critic of “tough on crime” policies. Here he is in 1991 condemning a crime bill for promoting “state murder” through expansion of the death penalty:

“My friends, we have the highest percentage of people in jail per capita of any nation on earth....What do we have to do, put half the country behind bars? Mister Speaker, instead of talking about punishment and vengeance, let us talk about the real issue. How do we get to the root causes of crime? How do we stop crime? … I've got a problem with a president and Congress that allows five million people to go hungry, two million people to sleep out on the street, cities to become breeding grounds for drugs and violence. And they say we're getting tough on crime. If you want to get tough on crime, let's deal with the causes of crime. Let's demand that every man, woman, and child in this country have a decent opportunity and a decent standard of living. Let's not keep putting poor people into jail and disproportionately punishing blacks.”

He also voted for an amendment in the crime bill to eliminate the death penalty with life imprisonment.

7. Voted Against Cutting Off Prisoners From Federal Education Funds: In the 1990s, there was a successful effort to end the Pell Grant program for prisoners, which was one of the most effective ways to reduce recidivism. Only a handful of members of Congress voted against the legislation, and almost all of them were members of the Black Caucus. Sanders was one of the few white members who opposed this effort. It passed by 351 to 39. Of those in the House who opposed that vote, few are still serving; Reps. John Lewis, Jose Serrano, Charlie Rangel, and Bernie Sanders stood together at that time and continue to serve today.

8. Took IMF To Task For Oppressing Developing World Workers: In a 1998 committee hearing, Sanders took Clinton administration official Robert Rubin to task for not enforcing a provision to protect the rights of workers in Indonesia. “Tell the world now that no more IMF money goes to that country, goes to [dictator] Suharto!” he thundered to Rubin, who later went on to be the chief architect of policies that led us to the Great Recession. “The IMF historically does not have a good record in terms of the poor people of various countries,” he noted, standing up for the poorest black and brown people on the planet, tackling an institution few in Congress dare to criticize.

9. Achieved High Ratings From Leading Civil Rights Organizations: A frequent critique of Sanders is that he is from a very white state. While this is true, he certainly has not ignored issues that matter to people of color. In 2002, he achieved a 93 percent rating from the ACLU and a 97% rating by the NAACP in 2006.

10. Voted Against the PATRIOT Act: The USA PATRIOT Act was passed in a 98-2 vote in the Senate and a 357-66 vote in the House. Sanders voted against it, and has voted against renewing it every single time. The law has been used to violate the rights of Arab and Muslim Americans, but few know how extensively it has been used in the drug war; from 2009 to 2010, the law was invoked for 3,034 narcotics cases and only 37 terrorism cases.

11. Opposed Both Iraq Wars on Moral Grounds: Sanders was opposed to U.S. involvement in both Iraq wars. While many simply talked about the war in terms of the impact it would have on the United States, Sanders went further, saying that the “death and destruction caused” would “not be forgotten by the poor people of the Third World.”

12. Traveled to Costa Rica to Defend Exploited Workers:Sanders traveled to Costa Rica to help organize workers opposing the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA). While many critics of trade agreements do so on the grounds that Americans deserve jobs that could be lost to foreign countries, Sanders instead practices a form of solidarity politics, saying that workers in both countries are being exploited by corporations and so we must organize workers in both countries.

13. Endorsed Jesse Jackson, Spoke Up For Palestinians: In 1988, Jesse Jackson was the first competitive black candidate for the Democratic nomination for the presidency. He came under fierce attack for his advocacy of Palestinian statehood. Sanders came to his aid, organizing Vermonters and winning the state for Jackson. Sanders was asked about Jackson's comments on Palestine and defended him, saying that the Israeli assault on Palestinians was “reprehensible.”

14. Strongly Condemned Police Violence Over the Past Year: One criticism of Sanders is that he avoids talking about police violence in favor of talking about the economy. While the economy forms the bulk of his pitch, he has repeatedly condemned police violence during the duration of the Black Lives Matter movement. Here he is in mid-August 2014, before frontrunner Clinton ever spoke about the issue. Here (8/20/14) are (8/24/14) a (8/18/14) few (6/6/2015) more (4/30/2015) examples (6/2015).

15. Embraced Immigrants When Hillary Clinton Refused To Talk To Them: In 2014, young immigration activists repeatedly tried to talk to Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton to ask her about executive action. While Clinton did not talk to them, Bernie Sanders was not only willing to talk, but agreed with their call for executive action.

16. Defended Voting Rights Against Voter Suppression Efforts: Sanders earned the endorsement of radical rapper Killer Mike by his leadership on defending the Voter Rights Act and calling for expanding voting rights.

17. Fought Against Employment Discrimination: Sanders was a strong supporter of legislation to end workplace discrimination against LGBT Americans.

18. Called For End to War On Drugs, For-Profit Prisons and Migrant Detention Quotas: Sanders supports decriminalizing marijuana and believes the war on drugs to be a failure. Additionally, he has vowed to end for-profit prisons and immigrant detention quotas.

19. Put Out Detailed Plan to End Economic Crisis in Minority Communities: Many argue that Sanders views the issue of racial justice in too myopic a fashion by focusing on the economy. But polling of both Latinos and African Americans shows that jobs and the economy is either their top concern or tied for their top concern. Gallup polling shows that 13 percent of Hispanics say immigration is their top concern; 47 percent say the economy is. Meanwhile, among black Americans, 13 percent say “race relations” is their top concern, tied with “unemployment/jobs,” an additional 10 percentage points go to the “economy in general.” Combined, economic concerns make up 23 percentage points while race relations compose 13 percent. If you add in healthcare, at 6 percent, another major Sanders theme, it gets you up to 29 percent. Add in poverty at 7 percent and education at 5 percent and you're up to 41 percent of African Americans naming Bernie Sanders' top issues as their top issues.

This validates Sanders' strategy of looking to the economy as the top concern of minority communities. He has put out a detailed strategy to target unemployment across America and particularly to attack Hispanic and black youth unemployment, which he introduced in August 2014, long before he announced for president.

None of this is to say that the Sanders campaign doesn't need to do more outreach to a broad array of people; the rallies in Phoenix, Houston and Dallas were a start, as they featured heavy presence of Latino and African Americans. The campaign is reportedly set to meet with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference next week, and will be campaigning heavily in the Southeast starting next month, with an event in New Orleans at the tail end of this month.

But much of the criticism of Sanders seems more rooted in who he is — an old white guy from Vermont — than what he has done. If anything, the fact that he has done so much for civil and minority rights despite the fact that his constituency is not one that would naturally demand it speaks to his character and wide empathy that isn't shared by many politicians.


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/20-examples-bernie-sanders-powerful-record-civil-and-human-rights-1950s

BumRushDaShow

(128,707 posts)
71. Same shit. Different day.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:59 PM
Mar 2016

What is missing is the fact that "economy" for POC is a whole different thing and has a whole different meaning due to us being forced to start this "race" far far far behind others - including behind European immigrants in the past who came here looking for opportunities while we hoisted and tied the ropes from their ships at the docks where they disembarked... and who, thanks to their white skin, stepped all over us on the way to the suburbs... And even today in many cases, certain immigrants come marching in, warmly welcomed into communities that we weren't or aren't (de facto) allowed to live. So the "solution" is never going to be one size fits all.

It's ironic but if what you posted had been from the much-maligned Prosense, who posted similar treatises about our current President, you would have been hounded off the site.

choie

(4,107 posts)
73. "much maligned Prosense"
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:10 PM
Mar 2016

Good God that's funny! and you think Clinton has proffered better policies that will help POC? She's got nothing!

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
95. You rambled on
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

about another subject when your first post said Bernie has done nothing since 1968.......yeah whoooosssssshhhhhhhhhh

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
103. I read what you wrote
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:14 PM
Mar 2016

and it was well written but it did not address my reply to your post which stated Bernie has not done anything since 1968. BTW my parent were displaced persons who picked lemons when they first came here in the late 40s. They were considered commies even though they were not Russians, in fact my aunt and uncle were killed by Russians so that even hurt them more by these types accusations. They were always considered outsiders in our neighborhood till the day they died.

I myself know of struggles since I have been disabled for over twenty years and have been abandoned by all of my family expect my wife and kids. Treated like crap by the same neighbors and others because of my chronic spine and pain issues and being called a fraud to my face and behind my back. All that said, of course I can not completely understand what type of discrimination others must endure but I do try my very best to have empathy for everyone's trials and tribulations.

BumRushDaShow

(128,707 posts)
104. Welcome to America
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:44 PM
Mar 2016

"Land of the 'free' (unless you were dragged kicking and screaming here in chains) and home of the brave".

The point that I was trying to make is that one size does not fit all when it comes to perspectives and pov regarding certain issues - and notably those promulgated by either of the candidates. Bernie Sanders left the heart of the "movement" (the urban areas - New York, Chicago, and he could have even considered living Oakland, hot bed of activism), and moved onto to his own agenda - which was not mine or that of many POC, where the struggle continues. So to attempt to insinuate that he was more involved then he was, is truly insulting. He really didn't have to be involved and no one asked him to be. He chose it at a certain time in his young life and then he moved on. But for some reason, many of his supporters are attempting round up support from POC by citing participation that is really not much different than that by untold and un-named millions nationwide who marched, got arrested, protested, set up organizations, fund-raised, phone-banked, donated time and materials, etc., to advance the cause of equality. Yet at the same time, a different struggle was raging - one that was anti-war, and that often drowned out the civil rights message.

The problem here is that "first impressions" count and this "first impression" was a gut-wrenching FAIL -

On African-American support for Democrats

Well, here's what you got. What you got is an African-American president, and the African-American community is very, very proud that this country has overcome racism and voted for him for president. And that's kind of natural. You've got a situation where the Republican Party has been strongly anti-immigration, and you've got a Hispanic community which is looking to the Democrats for help.

But that's not important. You should not be basing your politics based on your color. What you should be basing your politics on is, how is your family doing? ... In the last election, in state after state, you had an abysmally low vote for the Democrats among white, working-class people. And I think the reason for that is that the Democrats have not made it clear that they are prepared to stand with the working-class people of this country, take on the big money interests. I think the key issue that we have to focus on, and I know people are uncomfortable about talking about it, is the role of the billionaire class in American society.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2014/11/19/365024592/sen-bernie-sanders-on-how-democrats-lost-white-voters


You see, those of us who trace our ancestry back hundreds of years here in this nation, are mainly still here because we had to learn to decode. Decoding was passed on from generation to generation and we had to do this despite the generosity and sacrifice of many in the white community over those hundreds of years to keep us from being utterly exterminated. Our survival depended on it. And since a large majority of (in this case) blacks are/were southerners, they learned quickly had to decode the white southerner (B. Clinton). On the other hand, the white northerner is different - basically a flip side of the coin - but no less needing decoding, when the barely veiled tone-deafness in the above quote (from B. Sanders) underscores the issue. The mid-westerner (H. Clinton) also needs decoding as she often will do a "me-too" for either regional perspective, as she has lived in both those worlds and can invoke either code.

POC must do risk/benefit decoding in every decision we make. THAT is the bottom line.

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
86. Incredible list! Definitely a keeper.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:39 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for posting it. And, what's more, Sanders isn't going around every turn bragging about his past accomplishments and lifelong struggle for human rights, and shaming people for not realizing as much. Him and his campaign almost exclusively bring it up when he is attacked, maligned, and/or misrepresented by Hillary and her supporters. He is the embodiment of the Stoic principles:

"The voice ought to be plainly written on the forehead." - Marcus Aurileus

"Don't make a parade of it, don't boast about it, but demonstrate it through your actions." - Epictetus

And, whereas some people will do one thing and harp on it until the cows come home (and end up resting on their laurels), he has done so much that it's hard to keep them all in mind (while continuing to fight for to this day). Which sometimes makes it harder for anything to "stick" in people's minds. And it isn't easy to wrap up in a soundbite.

Many on the shrewd side of optics and politics (on this site, in the media, and within the greater Democratic Party) will ridicule him for not playing the Game of Thrones how they cynically think it should be played...but I think that speaks even more to his character.

BumRushDaShow

(128,707 posts)
72. And I gave my opinion
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:00 PM
Mar 2016

based on the ridiculousness that DU devolved into attempting to manufacture biographies.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
14. That doesn't look like him
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:27 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not sure why people are looking for photographic evidence. Everyone knows Bernie was involved in the civil rights movement when he was in college. No one is disputing it. You don't need a picture.

surrealAmerican

(11,359 posts)
43. That's no help, though.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:40 PM
Mar 2016

We would need to know who took the photo, and when, for starters.

I think we should be very careful about disseminating anything like this without being 100% sure.
If it's bogus, we sure don't want it.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
28. I ran a Google search of the image, and it shows up on several sites
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:34 PM
Mar 2016

as "MLK taking a well-deserved break."

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
30. Interesting!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:34 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't even think of doing that. Damn I need coffee. Going to bed at 6am doesn't help.
By the way, your name reminded me of this XD

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
36. And here I was thinking 4 a.m. was a bad bedtime...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

Curfew-pushing teenager in my house.

Also, lol on the video. I wish I looked like that.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
37. The point is an honest question
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

Something we all could use a little more of.
It came from here http://imgur.com/gallery/ML3fE and I thought I'd post and see what everybody thought because I wasn't so sure about it.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
57. Oh I would disagree
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:06 PM
Mar 2016

“A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing.”
― Oscar Wilde

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
69. Correct
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

however that being said, it was an honest question. I also shouldn't have to explain myself either.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
83. No
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:53 PM
Mar 2016

I saw it posted here and on Twitter. Just right click and choose copy image location and then copy it to your sig line.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
60. she's not a sanctimonious ideologue. Besides, while she was working
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:10 PM
Mar 2016

for The Child Defense Fund after law school what was Sanders doing?

Oh, that's right. Being jobless and not bothering to vote until he finally did vote, for himself, at around 40.

LOL!

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
61. Jeez why so serious
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:14 PM
Mar 2016

It's hilarious finding people in this thread who obviously have gotten so wrapped up in politics that they lost their sense of what isn't politics and have gone down the rabbit hole and also lost their sense of what humor is.

Who cares at what age someone votes anyhow? Like that is some measuring stick of purity? I wonder if you say the same thing about people who are that age who recently became citizens too? Keep demeaning. We see you.

Maybe you need to go back and read the thread and see the general tone of the discussion here many of us are having to realize this isn't some ideological circle jerk.

Thanks though.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
77. Every white man with glasses in a Civil Rights era photo is Bernie Sanders
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

In all seriousness, that looks nothing like him.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
79. That is not Bernie Sanders, sorry
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a 10,000 percent a Bernie supporter but that person is NOT Sanders.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
100. I would say no...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:04 PM
Mar 2016

Man in OP's photo has a slightly longer face, hair line has receded more at that point, and the ear appears slightly different. The nose is similar and so are the glasses.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
106. No way, no chance. There are no pictures of bernie sanders with MLK
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:10 PM
Mar 2016

They weren't hanging out. Bernie worked on some stuff in Chicago and took a bus to see King speak in DC. but was way back in the crowd.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Is this a pic of MLK and ...