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Small crowd for Bernie (Original Post) UglyGreed Mar 2016 OP
Welp HerbChestnut Mar 2016 #1
Yeah I think they UglyGreed Mar 2016 #4
+1 Impedimentus Mar 2016 #34
love you, uglygreed roguevalley Mar 2016 #81
Democratic popular vote total: Clinton +2,539,210 Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #2
Well you asked UglyGreed Mar 2016 #5
I see people. I don't see a 7 mile long line. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #7
Well I think you can UglyGreed Mar 2016 #9
Sure there's a crowd, but to say there was a 7 mile long line is an exaggeration. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #10
6.5 then UglyGreed Mar 2016 #13
Still an exaggeration. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #14
it must really gnaw at you... choie Mar 2016 #20
it pisses them off because she's so unloved outside the bubble roguevalley Mar 2016 #82
Anyone who is claiming to be a progressive and attracts a mostly racially homogenous group bothers t uponit7771 Mar 2016 #87
YeAh you're a real progressive... choie Mar 2016 #92
Yeap DLC candidate is running the true revolution over a person who had a guy who called Obama... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #93
What the hell are you talking about? choie Mar 2016 #95
Cornell West... Look him up, loves to call Obama the most vile racialized names out there... Stumpi uponit7771 Mar 2016 #96
When you start holding Clinton choie Mar 2016 #97
I do and she's still better than Sanders as a candidate. Sanders has no track record and couldn't ge uponit7771 Mar 2016 #98
She sure does have a record choie Mar 2016 #99
So does Sanders on the Brady bill and gun man. immunization uponit7771 Mar 2016 #100
Here is pic of the line UglyGreed Mar 2016 #23
Doesn't look 7 miles long. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #24
Well I doubt the UglyGreed Mar 2016 #26
There was no 7 mile long line. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #28
You were there??? UglyGreed Mar 2016 #30
. UglyGreed Mar 2016 #35
WOW...some random Bernie supporter said there was a long line. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #37
Wow some random UglyGreed Mar 2016 #38
Yet you can't produce a picture showing this alleged 7 mile long line. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #39
Yet you can not produce one that UglyGreed Mar 2016 #41
Yes, there was. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #73
You know what was an exaggeration? Claiming Ron and Nancy were AIDS advocates. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #25
... Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #32
Since you were hurt by the people lost in the eighties and before I wanted to pass on her apology shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #66
That's called a CYA Kittycat Mar 2016 #71
lying and failing. No, I don't think so. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #74
Sorry. Kittycat Mar 2016 #75
No I haven't lost anyone. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #85
Like Sniper Fire Politicalboi Mar 2016 #77
Oh bullshit, there was no Alzheimer's stigma then and there was a strong one for AIDS Fumesucker Mar 2016 #86
She just figured it would make sense to intentionally piss off a bunch off a bunch of people shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #88
No, it's a classic Clintonian triangulation Fumesucker Mar 2016 #91
"All this credit eilen Mar 2016 #101
Okay, see for yourself monicaangela Mar 2016 #52
Damn! That line looks 7 miles long!!! cui bono Mar 2016 #62
It does doesn't it! monicaangela Mar 2016 #102
You seem to be obsessed with lines. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #17
When he goes to a Clinton rally Depaysement Mar 2016 #19
Ah. That could be it. Loneliness factor. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #22
They're more like focus groups at the mall Kittycat Mar 2016 #76
LOL! Politicalboi Mar 2016 #78
7 miles == 36,960 ft hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #105
A mathematical response...very good. Thanks. n/t libdem4life Mar 2016 #118
Wow. Almost as big as her income from Wall St. speeches. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #18
heehee 840high Mar 2016 #33
Almost UglyGreed Mar 2016 #36
? Brother_Love Mar 2016 #108
The hubris of the Clinton campaign will be the downfall of our party and probably our nation. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #21
The condescending tone of the Sanders campaign redstateblues Mar 2016 #40
Psychological projection UglyGreed Mar 2016 #45
Big Money has tripled their wealth in the last 30 years while we have not gained at all. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #46
yeah that did hurt them a lot I think... shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #67
but then, our camp is condescending to. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #68
It's our fault she takes bribes? Politicalboi Mar 2016 #79
Democratic excitement = 0 Logical Mar 2016 #59
I see lack of enthusiasm. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #72
I see what you did there... AnotherVoter Mar 2016 #84
And lets not forget...all the red states voted. bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #111
The rest of the states favor Sanders? All the red states have voted? Garrett78 Mar 2016 #112
Aww...you're cute bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #114
Doubling down, eh? Garrett78 Mar 2016 #115
Agreed Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #117
a line seven miles long waiting to get in...nt grasswire Mar 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #65
WOW. I bet this makes EVERYONE feel good! dchill Mar 2016 #6
Dinky just Dinky I tell ya FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #8
Yeah not many UglyGreed Mar 2016 #12
According to BSS - red states don't count redstateblues Mar 2016 #42
So move UglyGreed Mar 2016 #43
Whoosh. You missed that one. redstateblues Mar 2016 #47
What I saw today UglyGreed Mar 2016 #48
Yeah that line of thinking gets to me too. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #69
If they're so inspired; why do you need to remind them to vote? brooklynite Mar 2016 #51
Maybe there is not enough UglyGreed Mar 2016 #53
Let's face it: Just like Republicans in a GE... RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #55
So true UglyGreed Mar 2016 #56
Tiny Hydra Mar 2016 #11
The Line Was 7 Miles? corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #15
Rocco is wrong. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #27
Clinton is not going to win California. On June 7 LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #80
Of the states I listed, CA is the toughest to predict, but... Garrett78 Mar 2016 #109
Bernie voters are very loyal and will turn out LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #113
Insignificant. He should give up. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #16
There must be a lot of damned Socialists(!) in Utah. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #29
Better get the NSA UglyGreed Mar 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #50
Ouch! libdem4life Mar 2016 #119
Bernie is getting more supporters every day Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #31
Too bad the "small crowd" never seems to turn up and vote, huh? brooklynite Mar 2016 #49
Perhaps they do but face certain obstructions RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #54
Over 2 million more votes and your blaming that on this? shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #64
Lol...in two places or even ten or of 1000... the excuses or gob smacking uponit7771 Mar 2016 #90
Symbolically yes Armstead Mar 2016 #106
Well there's that uponit7771 Mar 2016 #89
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #57
Always beautiful to see the huge enthusiastic crowds that turn out for Bernie. senz Mar 2016 #58
Their candidate doesn't generate much enthusiasm. I think LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #83
Our candidate generates votes... brooklynite Mar 2016 #104
So does his....And God help the Democrats if they continue to ignore and marginalize them Armstead Mar 2016 #107
too bad they can't pass out ballots at campaign stops DrDan Mar 2016 #60
Maybe Bill will bring UglyGreed Mar 2016 #61
I figured it was going to be something like that :) shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #63
Look at all those people, desperate for actual change. For real progress. vintx Mar 2016 #70
Oh please... Ino Mar 2016 #94
Under the biggest sky imaginzable.... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #103
shame those are not lines to the voting booths, isn't it DrDan Mar 2016 #110
Hillary could easily draw TWICE that many people Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #116

choie

(4,111 posts)
20. it must really gnaw at you...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:14 PM
Mar 2016

don't know why, since Clinton is so much ahead. Why does Bernie's popularity bother you so much?

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
87. Anyone who is claiming to be a progressive and attracts a mostly racially homogenous group bothers t
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:43 AM
Mar 2016

... Shit out of real progressives who are among a true mixed bag of folks.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
93. Yeap DLC candidate is running the true revolution over a person who had a guy who called Obama...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:56 AM
Mar 2016

... n-word-izzed stump for him in front of mostly white people.

Of course there's going to be a line two miles long in Utah...

IE

A red state that matters to Sanders supporters

choie

(4,111 posts)
95. What the hell are you talking about?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:04 AM
Mar 2016

Your constant
allegation of racism thrown at Bernie supporters is contemptible.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
96. Cornell West... Look him up, loves to call Obama the most vile racialized names out there... Stumpi
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:09 AM
Mar 2016

... for Sanders.

And you can get sick of the race conversation all you want... as long as someone who calls themselves progressives does and says things that's are counter to that title them they should be called out...

Same for Clinton

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
98. I do and she's still better than Sanders as a candidate. Sanders has no track record and couldn't ge
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:17 AM
Mar 2016

..SP passed in his own state... Here going to face 10 times worse in Washington

choie

(4,111 posts)
99. She sure does have a record
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:22 AM
Mar 2016

a track record of poor judgment and horrific votes
like the one for the Iraq War.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
35. .
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016
http://gephardtdaily.com/local/see-sen-bernie-sanders-speaks-salt-lake-city/

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah, March 18, 2016 (Gephardt Daily) — Chris and Viva Kite drove the 32 miles north from American Fork on Friday to see Sen. Bernie Sanders speak in Salt Lake City.

And they arrived to find themselves in good company.

It’s a bigger turnout than I thought it would be,” Chris Kite said. “That line goes out for as far as the eye can see.”

Chris was impressed!!!!!!

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
38. Wow some random
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:36 PM
Mar 2016

internet poster decides from their location the line was not large nor long and disputes an eye witness............

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
25. You know what was an exaggeration? Claiming Ron and Nancy were AIDS advocates.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:26 PM
Mar 2016

The fact that her supporters didn't mind that reveals much about their lack of knowledge in areas they claim to have great interest and personal connection.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
66. Since you were hurt by the people lost in the eighties and before I wanted to pass on her apology
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:43 AM
Mar 2016

to those who she offended. She knows she can't take back her mistake, but here's an apology anyway.



On the fight against HIV and AIDS—and on the people who really started the conversation.
Yesterday, at Nancy Reagan’s funeral, I said something inaccurate when speaking about the Reagans’ record on HIV and AIDS. Since then, I’ve heard from countless people who were devastated by the loss of friends and loved ones, and hurt and disappointed by what I said. As someone who has also lost friends and loved ones to AIDS, I understand why. I made a mistake, plain and simple.

I want to use this opportunity to talk not only about where we’ve come from, but where we must go in the fight against HIV and AIDS.

To be clear, the Reagans did not start a national conversation about HIV and AIDS. That distinction belongs to generations of brave lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people, along with straight allies, who started not just a conversation but a movement that continues to this day.

The AIDS crisis in America began as a quiet, deadly epidemic. Because of discrimination and disregard, it remained that way for far too long. When many in positions of power turned a blind eye, it was groups like ACT UP, Gay Men’s Health Crisis and others that came forward to shatter the silence — because as they reminded us again and again, Silence = Death. They organized and marched, held die-ins on the steps of city halls and vigils in the streets. They fought alongside a few courageous voices in Washington, like U.S. Representative Henry Waxman, who spoke out from the floor of Congress.

Then there were all the people whose names we don’t often hear today — the unsung heroes who fought on the front lines of the crisis, from hospital wards and bedsides, some with their last breath. Slowly, too slowly, ignorance was crowded out by information. People who had once closed their eyes opened their hearts.

If not for those advocates, activists, and ordinary, heroic people, we would not be where we are in preventing and treating HIV and AIDS. Their courage — and their refusal to accept silence as the status quo — saved lives.
We’ve come a long way. But we still have work to do to eradicate this disease for good and to erase the stigma that is an echo of a shameful and painful period in our country’s history.

This issue matters to me deeply. And I’ve always tried to do my part in the fight against this disease, and the stigma and pain that accompanies it. At the 1992 Democratic National Convention, when my husband accepted the nomination for president, we marked a break with the past by having two HIV-positive speakers — the first time that ever happened at a national convention. As First Lady, I brought together world leaders to strategize and coordinate efforts to take on HIV and AIDS around the world. In the Senate, I put forward legislation to expand global AIDS research and assistance and to increase prevention and education, and I proudly voted for the creation of PEPFAR and to defend and protect the Ryan White Act. And as secretary of state, I launched a campaign to usher in an AIDS-free generation through prevention and treatment, targeting the populations at greatest risk of contracting HIV.
The AIDS crisis looks very different today. There are more options for treatment and prevention than ever before. More people with HIV are leading full and happy lives. But HIV and AIDS are still with us. They continue to disproportionately impact communities of color, transgender people, young people and gay and bisexual men. There are still 1.2 million people living with HIV in the United States today, with about 50,000 people newly diagnosed each year. In Sub-Saharan Africa, almost 60 percent of people with HIV are women and girls. Even though the tools exist to end this epidemic once and for all, there are still far too many people dying today.
That is absolutely inexcusable.

I believe there’s even more we can — and must — do together. For starters, let’s continue to increase HIV and AIDS research and invest in the promising innovations that research is producing. Medications like PrEP are proving effective in preventing HIV infection; we should expand access to that drug for everyone, including at-risk populations. We should call on Republican governors to put people’s health and well-being ahead of politics and extend Medicaid, which would provide health care to those with HIV and AIDS.

We should call on states to reform outdated and stigmatizing HIV criminalization laws. We should increase global funding for HIV and AIDS prevention and treatment. And we should cap out-of-pocket expenses and drug costs—and hold companies like Turing and Valeant accountable when they attempt to gouge patients by jacking up the price of lifesaving medications.
We’re still surrounded by memories of loved ones lost and lives cut short. But we’re also surrounded by survivors who are fighting harder than ever. We owe it to them and to future generations to continue that fight together. For the first time, an AIDS-free generation is in sight. As president, I promise you that I will not let up until we reach that goal. We will not leave anyone behind.
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https://medium.com/@HillaryClinton/on-the-fight-against-hiv-and-aids-and-on-the-people-who-really-started-the-conversation-7b9fc00e6ed8#.aiss2jv52

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
75. Sorry.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:04 AM
Mar 2016

You don't get to judge this. That's left to each of us who lost someone. Your not letting it go isn't helping.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
85. No I haven't lost anyone.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:22 AM
Mar 2016

I truly am sorry for your loss or losses. I mean that.

But that said, I still judge it to be human error and am entitled to my opinion as you are to your's. I'm not going to be bullied into silence and will express my beliefs if you want to continue talking about it with me. If you don't wish to keep talking about it with me that's fine, but, no one is making you.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
86. Oh bullshit, there was no Alzheimer's stigma then and there was a strong one for AIDS
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:38 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary's original comment was talking about a disease that had a stigma, you can tell just by the way she phrased what she said.

Clinton knew exactly what she was saying.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
88. She just figured it would make sense to intentionally piss off a bunch off a bunch of people
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:45 AM
Mar 2016

and that was the goal. Allright then.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
91. No, it's a classic Clintonian triangulation
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:49 AM
Mar 2016

Anyone who is pissed off by that has no one else to vote for, what are they going to do, vote Trump?

On the other hand she appealed to the Reagan Democrats who revere Nancy and all things Gipper.

Remember that marriage was still "a sacred bond between a man and a woman" until 2013 in Hillaryland.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
101. "All this credit
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:59 AM
Mar 2016

I've been giving to Nancy at her funeral in the fight against AIDS, oops, I did that".

Yes, even at Nancy Reagan's funeral, it is all about Hillary. Not that I care about Nancy Reagan, but shit, all I could think of was ... classy.

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
105. 7 miles == 36,960 ft
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

Attendance is estimated at 14-15,000. So, about 2.5 feet per person in a single file (which is slightly tight for the way most people line up) would be 7 miles long.

Seems like a reasonable claim.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. The hubris of the Clinton campaign will be the downfall of our party and probably our nation.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:18 PM
Mar 2016

We have just begun to fight and we won't stop until we drive the Big Money, that you revere so deeply, out of our party.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
40. The condescending tone of the Sanders campaign
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:37 PM
Mar 2016

has already been it's downfall. The big money comment- evidence of that.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
45. Psychological projection
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:48 PM
Mar 2016

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It can take the form of blame shifting.

According to some research, the projection of one's negative qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.[2]

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
46. Big Money has tripled their wealth in the last 30 years while we have not gained at all.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:00 PM
Mar 2016

We've lost jobs, homes and retirements while the Wealthy have made hundreds of billions. We have the highest infant mortality rate of all modern nations and yet some still worship the wealthy. They send our families to war for their profits while we suffer the consequences. I know I am wasting my breath. To some Wealth is all.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
67. yeah that did hurt them a lot I think...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:54 AM
Mar 2016

I needed to see something more convincing about why he was the better person to get it done. Instead he just kept claiming she was in "wall-street's" pockets without anything solid. For me the lowest was the whole speaker's fees thing. That lost a lot of my respect.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
68. but then, our camp is condescending to.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:00 AM
Mar 2016

in other ways. Alot of them tried to claim moral superiority and purity over everyone and a lot of us treat them like they are unrealistic and silly. So, condescending tones have been coming out of both sides in different ways.

AnotherVoter

(29 posts)
84. I see what you did there...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:14 AM
Mar 2016

Math is funny.

That's a difference score.

There is a hell of a lot of people who have voted for both candidates.
Clinton: 8,651,128 Sanders: 6,111,918

Of the total 14,763,046 (yes, 14 million!) people who have voted:
58.6% have voted for Clinton.
41.4% have voted for Sanders.

Let's make sure we put this all in context.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
111. And lets not forget...all the red states voted.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:11 PM
Mar 2016

So that gives Clinton the lead. They're terrified because the rest of the states favor Sanders, and those numbers are going to shift very quickly. And the closer Bernie gets, the less inevitable Hillary looks.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
112. The rest of the states favor Sanders? All the red states have voted?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:17 PM
Mar 2016

Where do folks get these crazy ideas from?

Most of the reddest states in the US have not yet voted (Romney won the likes of MT, UT, ID and WY by a greater margin than he won most of the states in the Deep South).

And you think Sanders is favored in AZ, NY, PA, MD, NJ and NM?

Peeps need to get a grip on reality.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
115. Doubling down, eh?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:23 PM
Mar 2016

I'm wrong that Sanders is not favored in all of the remaining states? I'm wrong that some of the reddest states in the US have yet to vote?

Seriously, what exactly am I wrong about?

Response to grasswire (Reply #3)

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
69. Yeah that line of thinking gets to me too.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:15 AM
Mar 2016

I've also seen people saying that Clinton's red states, not to mention important swing states, don't matter. But Sander's red states matter... And the blue states that always go blue in the general matter most. It's an interesting double standard.


Anyway, Democratic party in all states should have say in who are candidate is, because they are representing all of us. So the whole thing is sort of, well, okay then...

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
53. Maybe there is not enough
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:24 PM
Mar 2016

forms or bad info going out................Maybe Bill could bring some more ballots next time he and Hillary decide to campaign at polling places????

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
55. Let's face it: Just like Republicans in a GE...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

... Hillary in a primary benefits from low voter turnout, ballot shortages, or excessive ID hurdles.

One Percenters can easily furnish ID and can often wait around. Not so easy to do when you don't have a driver's license or you're punching a clock.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
56. So true
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

more people struggle to survive less time they have to get involved and have a government which represent their need and values.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
15. The Line Was 7 Miles?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:07 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not a distrusting person. On the bright side, though, even a line of 1 mile would be quite something.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511532120

¡Sí, se puede!

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
27. Rocco is wrong.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders is favored in places like Utah, Montana, Idaho and Alaska. Clinton is favored in places like Arizona, New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey and California.

Overall, Clinton has done better in 'blue' areas and Sanders has done better in 'red' areas. Such as St. Louis and Kansas City vs. rural Missouri.

Clinton does best in larger, more diverse states. Sanders does best in smaller, less diverse states. That's not a pattern that will suddenly get flipped upside down just because people want it to. I get why people don't like Clinton, believe me. But reality is reality.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
80. Clinton is not going to win California. On June 7
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:03 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie will win this state handily. Voters out here are feelin the Bern big time, and people who haven't stated a party preference (24% of the total) are allowed to cast a Democratic ballot. That bodes very well for Bernie.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
109. Of the states I listed, CA is the toughest to predict, but...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016

...I don't see Sanders winning it "handily." And if Clinton's delegate lead is ~400 (or even 300) heading into that primary, as expected, some won't see the point in bothering to vote.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
113. Bernie voters are very loyal and will turn out
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

no matter what the delagate count is at the time of the primary -- if only to send the establishment the message that California Democrats (and many Independents) are progressives much more in line with Bernie's stand on the issues and who prefer that Bernie be the nominee.

Response to UglyGreed (Reply #44)

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
106. Symbolically yes
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

The Clinton (TM) brand is the Wal Mart of politics.

God help you if you try to compete.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
58. Always beautiful to see the huge enthusiastic crowds that turn out for Bernie.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

Always sad to see the sour, resentful responses from his competitor's supporters.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
83. Their candidate doesn't generate much enthusiasm. I think
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:11 AM
Mar 2016

her supporters tend to be people like my 93-year-old mom who only watches corporate news and, therefore, thinks Hillary's the only Democrat running.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
107. So does his....And God help the Democrats if they continue to ignore and marginalize them
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:16 PM
Mar 2016

If Clinton was crushing Sanders throughout the country with 90 percent of the vote, your arrogance might be understandable.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
60. too bad they can't pass out ballots at campaign stops
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

those folks just can't seem to find the polls

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
61. Maybe Bill will bring
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:53 PM
Mar 2016

some ballots with the bullhorn while campaigning in polling places in Utah.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
63. I figured it was going to be something like that :)
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:32 AM
Mar 2016

Wow, great turnout! Where is that out of curiosity? Does anybody know? My guess is Utah.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
70. Look at all those people, desperate for actual change. For real progress.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:24 AM
Mar 2016

Desperate to join the rest of the western world in providing a real social safety net, a real commitment to education, reform vs. just throwing people in prison (for profit).

We need step up the GOTV efforts.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
94. Oh please...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:00 AM
Mar 2016

they crowded those people into one corner of the state to make it look like a full house

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
116. Hillary could easily draw TWICE that many people
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:26 PM
Mar 2016

of course, she'd have to agree to using an outdoor stadium for her trial for violations of 18 U.S. Code § 793 and the Federal Records Act, and all those who would show up would be right-wing nutjobs, but she COULD draw a crowd bigger than Bernie's if she did that.

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