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Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:40 PM Mar 2016

Election Fraud Elephant in Room May Cost Bernie Sanders Election If Not Addressed

Her last video was asking for people to document anything they could during the primaries and caucuses. She was going to compile all the information she gleaned.

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Election Fraud Elephant in Room May Cost Bernie Sanders Election If Not Addressed (Original Post) Gregorian Mar 2016 OP
Oh, fraud again, I would like to see real proof, I think there Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #1
what would real proof look like? reddread Mar 2016 #2
Something good enough to take to court, I think Hillary would have more Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #3
Bull Horn Bill bahrbearian Mar 2016 #7
This wasn't voter fraud, need better than this. It was not more illegal than Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #9
Who Bill was blocking from entering the polling station. bahrbearian Mar 2016 #12
I don't know, you tell me who he blocked and maybe it was the chanting Bernie Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #14
Isn't this sweet bahrbearian Mar 2016 #15
There is a Bernie supporter right by Bill in this picture. LisaM Mar 2016 #16
Typical Hill Billie. Hocus Pocus *poof* dmm80 Mar 2016 #27
Bernie stole voter information and sent in supporters impersonating union members. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #10
Isn't this sweet bahrbearian Mar 2016 #11
sweet. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #26
And here is the accusation once again UglyGreed Mar 2016 #13
NGP VAN works with the Democratic Party. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #18
No John stole it UglyGreed Mar 2016 #21
That van is NGP's van, it belongs to them. The people in front of the bus are NGP-VAN employees LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #22
It's just more BS UglyGreed Mar 2016 #24
Your slander is just that UglyGreed Mar 2016 #23
Laws poorly written - this should be illegal snowy owl Mar 2016 #17
There is a pre-planned police tape area in the parking lot. Sunlei Mar 2016 #31
so if the elections clerk prices a recount beyond all reason? reddread Mar 2016 #32
I don't know, I am just interested in the fraud allegations, I am thinking if there Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #33
How can you begin to guess when they wont give you the information? reddread Mar 2016 #35
Do you suspect fraud, if so what fraud do you think happened and who are the "they" Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #36
yeah. reddread Mar 2016 #38
This information does not provide any thing about voter fraud, I am interested in voter fraud. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #40
of course. I knew that from the start reddread Mar 2016 #41
2008 BlueStateLib Mar 2016 #25
This is a revolution. We don't need no evidence. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #19
You may have something here, I don't know who to suspect in a revolution. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #34
The Sane Progressive? What, HA Goodman or USUncut not covering this? NuclearDem Mar 2016 #4
Sane? KingFlorez Mar 2016 #5
In this "democratic" system of ours, nothing is verifiable... polichick Mar 2016 #6
The "Sane" Progressive. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #8
Well, she's Debbier than the rest of us, I'm sure. MineralMan Mar 2016 #20
Dunno.......To Me...she was pushing too hard for Bernie to do "Sour Grapes" KoKo Mar 2016 #28
Do you have actual proof of election fraud, or just some person making youtube videos? Tarc Mar 2016 #29
... LexVegas Mar 2016 #30
LOL Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #39

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Oh, fraud again, I would like to see real proof, I think there
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:46 PM
Mar 2016

May be some fraudulent activity and Hillary is not getting the votes or caucus numbers she is due.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Something good enough to take to court, I think Hillary would have more
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:35 PM
Mar 2016

Delegates than she currently does.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. This wasn't voter fraud, need better than this. It was not more illegal than
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:10 PM
Mar 2016

The Bernie supporters chanting Bernie Bernie Bernie right beside Bill.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. I don't know, you tell me who he blocked and maybe it was the chanting Bernie
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

Supporters who may have blocked voters.

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
16. There is a Bernie supporter right by Bill in this picture.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:55 PM
Mar 2016

I call that Hillary voters were being obstructed!!

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
10. Bernie stole voter information and sent in supporters impersonating union members.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

Not to mention the Bernie supporters right behind Bill Clinton at that same polling place.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
13. And here is the accusation once again
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:44 PM
Mar 2016
so I'll cut and paste my other replies here also


DNC officials and a staffer at NGP VAN recommended Josh Uretsky. Also NGP VAN had the same type of problem in 2008.....not too good at the job they are hired to do........or are they doing what the client requested HMMMMM





Also why did the DNC not let the lawsuit which the Sanders campaign filed run it's course??? Perhaps they felt it would reveal some interesting secrets that they felt best to be left out of the public's view......

And

John Uretsky has been involved in Democratic politics for several years

I find it odd he was the one who was fired for the "data breach" that many like to use to slander Sanders with. I've seen many comments this past week doing so. Here is John with Obama, he seemed to be trusted at one point..............




Uretsky has been involved in Democratic politics for several years, his LinkedIn profile shows.

He worked as a staffer on Patrick Murphy’s Congressional campaign in 2006. From 2007 to 2008 he was a “grassroots leader for Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign in Philadelphia,” serving as a co-chair of Philadelphia for Obama.

He has also worked on local Pennsylvania campaigns, and was the Pennsylvania Data and Targeting Manager for America Votes from 2011 until he was hired by the Sanders campaign.

“Prepared and presented data driven analysis of partisan political opportunities and needs using SQL, VAN, GIS and other tools. Determined key regions for electoral program and competitive districts,” he wrote of his role with America Votes. “Managed voter file access for partner organizations and their consultants including administration, security, training and technical assistance. Managed deputy staff.”
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
18. NGP VAN works with the Democratic Party.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:08 PM
Mar 2016

No shit they have advertising on Democratic Party property like that bus.

Bernie stole that data. He admitted it. He apologized for it.

The rest of your post is just slightly more intelligible rambling than the average Alex Jones argle bargle. Give it a rest. Bernie's losing because he parachuted into the party at the last minute, insisted on insulting and pissing off as many of its members as possible, drained that party's resources with bullshit, asscovering lawsuits while not bothering to support down ballot races, and effectively sanctioned a "by-any-means-necessary" "insurgent" campaign.

Give it a rest.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
22. That van is NGP's van, it belongs to them. The people in front of the bus are NGP-VAN employees
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

and NGP-VAN is advertising Vote or Hillary on their bus..

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
24. It's just more BS
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016

trying to turn this into the corrupt Bernie Sanders Campaign and their supporters are Tea Baggers. SMH!

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
23. Your slander is just that
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:18 PM
Mar 2016

slander. If Bernie stole anything the DNC should let the lawsuit go on and keep him from the accessing the info. They are the ones who backed down and now all of you use this garbage as a talking point. BTW Now DWS is pulling the same crap on Tim Canova. VAN had the same problem in 2008 and then twice in 2015, can't do their job very well now can they...........

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
17. Laws poorly written - this should be illegal
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:07 PM
Mar 2016

and the intention of polling place laws would find this illegal. But unfortunately many of our laws (like natural-born citizen) are ambiguous. I don't know why. Bill Clinton broke faith and the intention of poling place laws. He had no business being there or influencing voters when they go to vote. He had no business holding up the voting lines. This is just one example of the privilege elites think are theirs and the disrespect they show to the rest of us.

This is disgraceful and the fact that he did it more than once is a shame on our former democracy. Fingers in our faces. The only word I can think of anymore to describe what people put up with and support: disgusting.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
32. so if the elections clerk prices a recount beyond all reason?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:05 PM
Mar 2016

is that proof or lack of proof?
Ju$tice?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
33. I don't know, I am just interested in the fraud allegations, I am thinking if there
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:12 PM
Mar 2016

Was fraud it was probably to take votes away from Hillary.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
35. How can you begin to guess when they wont give you the information?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:38 AM
Mar 2016

I am thinking of the CA GMO labeling(or whatever it was) Prop 37 that did a barely fail a few years ago.
obviously an issue of major concern to modifiers. The local elections officer quoted many thousands of dollars
for a recount, worse perhaps than any other locality, and by far. Previous to this election, the long serving
county elections person left his position rather unexpectedly, iirc.

I think it is pretty clear, and systematic.

what would you expect from a "lesser" countries elections?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
36. Do you suspect fraud, if so what fraud do you think happened and who are the "they"
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:47 AM
Mar 2016

Who does not give the information?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
38. yeah.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

california?
"electricity crisis"
2000?
crying grandmas and all that.
those clearer heads in SF knew better than to vote for Municipal Power in the aftermath of that scam.
barely.
after moving the ballots across the street.
for whatever reason.
I suspect nothing except business as usual.
and witless posters.

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/nov/10/local/me-2612

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/there-was-a-recount-on-the-prop-37-vote-and-it-was-stopped-cold/

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
41. of course. I knew that from the start
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

Im talking about electoral fraud, not right wing fantasy memery.
Im talking about real things.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
6. In this "democratic" system of ours, nothing is verifiable...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

Not during primary season and not during the general - USA! USA!

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. The "Sane" Progressive.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016

Colbert of the right. No doubt in my mind she is mocking progressives with her parody pieces.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
28. Dunno.......To Me...she was pushing too hard for Bernie to do "Sour Grapes"
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

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And, any candidate who calls for a recall on the Dem Side in this Dem Primary of Two...would be DOA for the Opposition. But one must remain their positive self when able

"Bernie Calls for Recount of States...XYZ" and more, would have Hillary's Campaign crawling all over him with shouts of "Sore Loserman!"

I felt that there was something disingenuous about this poster asking Bernie to do this, as much as I might agree with her about the almost tied votes in some of the important elections. I think Bernie is forging on and avoiding the Election Traps set for what this poster is either, honestly (in frustration) or dishonestly, posting here.

Others may feel differently. But, it was an interesting watch.

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