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It would be a shame, but gosh it sure looks like she could be in big trouble.

should definitely feel "vanquished."

To vote for her .....you know.....after all that vanquishing.
This is how they CHOOSE to see us
As people to be beaten i to submission
Makes me all atingle to vote for her it does

is symptom of a greater problem. Not to mention the fact that I wasn't addressing you, nor would I.

Maybe poorly but i was agreeing to your point.

atingle! Sorry, but your post was one in a bunch that had been similarly worded, yet completely without sarcasm. I plead hrcptsd.

Sarcasm doesnt work south of savannah ga and im in florida.so my sarcasm skills are tiny.

That's how it works.

She who has the most votes, wins.

Good time Charlie's got the blues.

Vanquish = poor choice of words.

If you Hillary was not one who started with Rat-Fucking swift-boat crap during lead up to SC.

ask Bernie supporters just to take it, shut up and heel.
Not bloody likely.
They should have thought about that before they launched those swift boats.

Some of us are bound to hold her accountable.

Would necessarily benefit Bernie. Depending on the timing and who jumps in (Biden), it could actually make his chances much worse.

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There is open talk of this in DC

--they would fear change with Sanders........

Wouldn't they even consider working with Sanders?

I just watched my Heat blow out the Cavaliers...If I were like the supporters of a certain candidate I would have hoped LeBron James broke his leg but there is more dignity in winning fair and square.

..if there is anything out there at all..you can be sure the GOP will use it. I think it more likely that all the problems will get buried until after an election..if she were to win..and then with the GOP Congress..look out...

After seeing the serious nature of some of those emails, I was shocked. Politics is all-important, just about everything in Washington, D.C., but there is one thing more important: national security. I do not think this is going to wither away because the intelligence community will not let it. It is outraged, and rightfully so.

So while you think they will not indict, ask yourself this question: do you think people like Comey will be willing to let someone who has knowingly made these missteps walk away with just a slap on the wrist? Personally, I don't think so. And do you think other people in charge of national security, knowing the breaches made here, would allow the same person making them to take charge of this Country's national security in the Office of the President? I don't think so.

Sam

...and will use it to destroy her (and us)?

I don't think so.

This is much more serious than some people here seem to think.

Sam

is over the sooner the better. If HRC is able to make it to the nomination and then get indicted,
it will be a huge mess for the Democratic party. If she is guilty--then indict. If she is innocent,
(relatively speaking) then say so. This indictment thing hanging over the primary is unsettling.

There would be no better way to sabotage a presidential election than to recommend an indictment after the conventions.

to be prosecuted for war crimes.

But, for some reason, I still have hope. I'm told that I'm an ideologue. I guess that's an insult?

If Obama had not pardoned them.

"impeachment is off the table"

Probably because most in congress would also been indicted over it. Like Bush testifying about Clinton selling her vote for War to him.

Obama did not do that. Please get your facts straight.

After he fails to win in the brokered convention, I'm sure he will be screaming and calling Clinton every name in the book. It's sure to be entertaining. That's why I want him to keep running, for potential entertainment. lol.

...then you haven't really been paying attention to him. He's better than that.

Crushing any chance of a better country makes them worse
Teqbaggers are ignorant but these people know.exactly what they are doing and laughing while they do it.

Her use of a private server shows serious lack of judgment and disregard for the rules, but an indictment doesn't seem likely. Not sure why anyone would actively support someone who disregarded government requirements though. And has she ever explained why she needed to use a private server to perform her official duties?

She had special government access to secure computer and laptop. But she said she wanted the convenience of a Blackberry. NSA said no to that. So she used one anyway, with her own private secret server. And she also used an Ipad with that server.

IMO, from what I have read, she used her own server to hide her actions from Obama. She was dealing with Blumenthal, the man that Obama had banned from any advisory capacity. And she was running a rogue foreign policy that included the Clinton Foundation but excluded Obama.

He always nails it.


"Get the picture now?"

Do you prefer Bernie or perhaps Biden? Or maybe you think Trump would make a good president?

I happen to think its about as likely as getting hit by lightning.

I agree that she probably won't be indicted. If she is though do you prefer Sanders or Biden? And even if she isn't, do you approve of the fact that she ignored State Department rules by setting up a private server? The latter question is the more important one -- Hillary consciously decided to ignore the rules and use a private server -- do you agree with that?

Edited so that we aren't talking only about Hillary - do you think that it is ok for public officials to ignore the rules that apply to their jobs and that are designed to protect the US?

But I'd happily get behind Biden.

In fact, in this time of anti-establishment sentiment running through America, the lack of an indictment in the face of sufficient grounds could be worse than an indictment on sufficient grounds. It would be another example of America's two justice systems. Just the fact that she's under FBI investigation as opposed to a Republican controlled House panel carries enough weight with many people not to vote for her. There's already too few and her supporters and campaign manager has already told the white male to F off.

So you appear to think that the FBI has spared her from the House investigation?

The House GOP will do what they want, when they want and most of us can tell it's politics only. Benghazi hearings are an example. But the FBI? Pretty sure they don't do political theater like that. Also, if the American public feels she screwed up then it won't matter if there is an indictment but it could matter more if there isn't but would be for one of us little people.

You can almost bet there's going to be a House investigation if the FBI clears her.

Do the right thing just this once.

"No"

not tinfoiley sources. TPTB don't want either Hillary or Bernie. Target number 1 is Bernie. When he is out, the indictment drops like a house on the WWW. Then good ol Joe steps in to save the day.

Biden's "Presidentable"--at-ease, has blue-collar cred, even wants to expand the Amtrak, basically Obama 2.0, parachuted into the party machinery, default and insider enough for the Clinton supporters and with enough liberal cred for the Sandernistas; we can work with him for 8 years and then shift the party to score in '24

he's also a backstabbing wheeler-dealing wretch who has thrown millions into war or on the street for Capitol Hill brownie points, his megadonors, and just pure ideology

Thankfully, he wakes up and remembers how pathetic he is.

It just seems odd the FBI hasn't cleared her yet. You'd think, in the midst of such an important election, they would feel the need to wind it up and clear the candidate and her minions. Look for a Friday news dump one of these weeks and let's hope it happens before October.

But seems like they could speed up the process here.

Question for the Hillary supporters -- can anyone point me to the last presidential candidate who was running for president while at the same time being investigated by the FBI for potentially committing a crime?

Imagine election day and a double perp walk. LOL.

But is he being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation? If he is, then Hillary is keeping pretty good company. Hillary and Trump, the only candidates subject to federal investigation while running for office. Didn't any of the powers that be sit down and say "hey, maybe it isn't a good idea to have someone who might be indicted as our candidate"?

This is a direct answer to your question. While it implies that Hillary is being investigated for potentially committing a crime, there is no indication at this point, from FBI or any other source, that a crime may have been committed, let alone Hillary's potential involvement in it.

Then again, your inquiry into investigations of presidential candidates may be unrelated to any specific political figures and is mere curiosity on your part... in which case your question is best directed to presidential historians rather than Hillary's supporters.

...by partisan pressure. He will resign before he allows himself to be influenced by partisans.

President Obama is not going to ruin his great legacy in order to salvage someone's election chances.

He knows if he did that, news would leak. It would be a disaster all around.

...his orders, and ran a rogue foreign policy operation out of her private server....Obama might just get some pleasure out of seeing that indictment come down in judgment. He doesn't have to lift a finger. Just let justice roll down.

It's quite possible that Obama had no idea this was going on behind the scenes with Blumenthal, et al until the emails were released. If I were him, I would be seriously pissed.

High on the hypocracy scale, Hillary has been tiring herself to Obama, basically supporting everything he's done to score points with dems and POC, yet she had so little respect for him running a rouge State Depr behind the scenes....dispicable.

One of the articles about this says that there's no way that NSA was not able to "see" the communications that Hillary was sending and receiving on her private server. And that is likely to be absolutely true, given what Snowden has revealed to us about our surveillance capabilities.

And so that begs a question. Did NSA see, compile, and not inform Obama? Did NSA see, compile, and inform Obama, who has known all along and held this in reserve for some chess reason? Did NSA see, compile, and inform Obama who opted to cover it?

This is a whole can of worms.

Otherwise, yes, I agree with your assessment of despicable for Hillary to diss Obama by betraying him. But hey -- she never did show him any respect, did she?

Whether Obama was informed by the NSA or not, he certainly knows now. The main question, as you said: is he covering up or keeping in reserve?

She did not conduct State Department business via email. Therefore, there were no communications for those GOP clowns to point to in that marathon hearing.

Unfortunately, it looks like she did have State business on her personal email account fed to her personal Blackberry.

NSA said there was no secure Blackberry possible for her, but she did it anyway.

If the FBI/DOJ find anything worth an indictment, it will be the biggest self-inflicted wound since John Edwards and Gen. Patraeus decided to lambada with their biographers.

Lambada is not on the same level as running a rogue foreign policy operation out of sight of the POTUS.

Will Bernie's?

There is never a shred of substance to these kind of posts. Be respectful that you're at a site to support Democrats. Take it somewhere else.

you call them.

provided the "baggage". Starting in Arkansas till present.

....of the Democratic Party.

Answer: Yes
Answer to that original question: No

Scandal one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511524355#top

Scandal two:
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/01/30/clinton-system-donor-machine-2016-election/

Put them together and it spells TRAIN WRECK.

The stories in the old Penthouse Forum had a better chance of coming true.

It doesn't matter how debunked they are. Trump has no reason to be reasonable. He'll reach back into history and hang them up in front of us in an attempt to depress democratic voting.

It'll probably have some limited effect among the 60+ percent of Americans who don't giver her favorable numbers on honesty and trustworthiness. If that effect produces in the 5-10 percent range of registered voters, things will be difficult.

Very interesting OP. Thank you for this.

If she is our nominee, and happens to win, there will be the following dynamic: the establishment republicans will tend to support her, while the tea party will continue to accuse her and her administration of every possible form of corruption. That will hold true, no matter if rooted in actual corruption, or not.