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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:33 PM Mar 2016

It's fair to ask campaigns to call out bad online conduct by "supporters"-and our campaign does.

It's not fair to hold the candidate him or herself to blame for such conduct...especially our candidate, who has always condemned those who said unacceptable things while claiming to support him.

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It's fair to ask campaigns to call out bad online conduct by "supporters"-and our campaign does. (Original Post) Ken Burch Mar 2016 OP
I disagree, at least in the Sanders scenario mythology Mar 2016 #1
But how do determine what a "troll" is? Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #3
I'd say there are a few tests that are fairly indicative: Ken Burch Mar 2016 #4
4) Repeatedly asking question that have already been answered Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #5
I'd quibble with the word "always" Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #2
 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
1. I disagree, at least in the Sanders scenario
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:20 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders isn't doing anything to encourage violence. I think the worst of the Sanders supporters (the ones who attack Elizabeth Warren or Trayvon Martin's mother) are part of a much larger issue that there are trolls on the internet where awful behavior builds on itself. Sanders hasn't pushed for that to happen. I do appreciate Sanders asking them to stop, but I don't think he was responsible for it and therefore it isn't fair to attach that to him.

Trump on the other hand, encourages his supporters to get violent and offers to pay their legal fees. He owns that.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
3. But how do determine what a "troll" is?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:17 AM
Mar 2016

I think that of this were merely a troll infestation, it wouldn't be a problem at all.

The other thing is...the internet is a forum (and I do mean that in the ancient sense of the word) where politics is discussed and communicated and info is disseminated.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. I'd say there are a few tests that are fairly indicative:
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:44 AM
Mar 2016

1) If the posts that person makes are almost entirely devoted to personal abuse towards other posters or the subject of the posts;

2) If the offensive posts continue(in the context of candidate posts in particular)when the candidate the poster is supposedly supporting has asked, and asked repeatedly, for the offensive posting to stop;

3) If the poster continues to make offensive posts or escalates in the offensiveness at a time when it should be clear that making such posts harms the chances of the candidate the poster claims to support.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
5. 4) Repeatedly asking question that have already been answered
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:59 AM
Mar 2016

Having said that, there are times when long-standing posters act trollish...which is really where my own line is, personally...

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