... that the state department at the time had no illusions about what was happening."

The illusions came later, during the 2016 Clinton campaign.

When she voted for the IWR that caused the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians? When she pushed for the bombing of Libya? When she wants to undo the diplomacy that Kerry and Obama created with Iran?



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She actually supported the delay that solidified the Military in power

The sheer weight of this never-ending incrimination is staggering

late nights side by side - and nice fire burning documents

makes one feel all warm and cozy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-honduras-coup-memoirs_us_56e34161e4b0b25c91820a08

Thanks for the thread, cui bono.

I traveled in Honduras in the early 1990's. The country then was traumatized and broken from 12 years of Reagan/Bush the 1st de facto rule. Bridges and public buildings were guarded by scary-looking military guys wielding AK-47s. No doubt supplied by the US.
Open dump trucks carried several of the same type guys with rifles at the ready, along the major roads. But the poor people...many of them lived in tiny shacks on road right of ways because they had no land and no real homes.

And now, it seems the struggling progress that democratically-elected Zeyaleta had brought, is dashed. Honduras is the murder capital of the world now.

I wish more Americans could travel to the Third World. They would vote much wiser if they did.

... if she winds up in GE?
("Just rightwing smears!&quot

Sorry, but as Samuel Goldfish (later Goldwyn) allegedly said, "Include me out."

I'm fighting for a principled Dem Party that goes back to it's roots and remembers what it is supposed to stand for.

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http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/35818-why-is-hillary-ok-with-honduran-death-squads

What our media-shielded world mostly did not note is that Honduras is one of the original banana republics, long open to corporate plunder under the protection of the U.S. government. Nor was there much attention to longstanding political corruption in Honduras with its “elected” puppet government and major American military presence. Also omitted generally was how Honduras has served as a main base of American military operations at least since the Reagan administration’s illegal and war-crime saturated war against Nicaragua in the 1980s. Several hundred U.S.Marines are deployed in Honduras with official missions to train Hondurans and fight the war on drugs (similar to the missions of 3,500 Marines in Peru and others elsewhere), consistent with U.S. military expansion in Central America during President Obama’s first term.

But how could any of this be relevant to the assassination of yet another Honduran activist defending human rights, defending the rights of indigenous people, defending the environment, or defending the Honduran majority against military repression? None of the people currently running for president have apparently thought it worth more than a passing comment at most, not even Bernie Sanders, whose vision of an America run by billionaires has long been a grotesque reality in oligarchical Honduras. Pretty much irrelevantly, Sanders did take a glancing swipe at Clinton’s relationship with Honduras (rated “Mostly True” by Politifact) during their March 9 debate:

One of the great human tragedies of recent years is children came from Honduras where there's more violence than in any place in this country, and they came into this country…. And I said welcome these children into this country. Secretary Clinton said, send them back. [This omits Clinton’s lawyerly conditions for expatriation, but accurately characterizes her bottom line: “Send them back.”]

So why are Honduran children fleeing in the first place?

Perhaps the most interesting contextual aspect of the Berta Caceres assassination is that it’s an extension of American “engagement” in Honduras and provides a lucid paradigm of foreign policy as Hillary Clinton practices it.

On June 27, 2009, Honduras had a legitimately elected president, Manuel Zelaya, himself a multi-millionaire oligarch, who was accused of instigating a months-long power struggle over whether he could extend his term-limited presidency by democratic but constitutionally-challenged, nonviolent means. Zelaya denied this intent, saying he would leave office as scheduled in January 2010. His opposition, including the Congress, attorney general, and Supreme Court, were holding their own in June. Congress had begun to consider impeachment. The stated issue was apparently not the real issue.

the Clinton (Bill), Obama and soon to be Clinton (Hill) presidencies were no different than Reagan, Bush & Bush. Imperialism is imperialism no matter what we pretend it is. We haven't had a reprieve from the neocolonialism in decades.

Welcome, LA Green!



JFK appeared to be moving away from colonialism. (That's allegedly why Lumumba was bumped off just a few days before Kennedy was inaugurated.) Come to think of it, we haven't heard much from Jack lately. Or from brother Bobby either, who, unlike the more politically expedient among us these days, truly seemed to have "evolved."

been lurking for a long time. Happy to finally participate.

And this is why we need to push the candidates to move from neocolonialism. From Dulles/Kissinger-present, it needs to end!

I think this is what Bernie's campaign is doing...moving the party back to the left and opening eyes about the bull$hit that has been going on for decades.

I don't want to plug my own stuff but I recommend reading my post about Henry Kissinger, but I'm sure you already know about the destruction he caused as the architect for the disastrous FP of the US.

give intelligent people on DU a break already....good grief!

Hard to dismiss her praise for him

you don't think this article about Hillary's involvement in Honduras is intelligent?

Which DUers are the intelligent ones?

What is the point of your post and is it intelligent?

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you seem to be able to turn your back on in favor of a Clinton Aristocracy. Don't you know that they don't love you?

courtesy of Hillary's State Department who represented us to the world.