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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:37 AM Mar 2016

Bernie needs to expose Trump's BIG LIE on Trade Agreements

Trumps says that his corporate buddies (not stupid political hacks) need to negotiate the trade agreements and that will make them great trade agreements for the U.S.

The problem: trade agreements are written by corporations. There are NO seats at the table for labor, environmental experts, etc.

In addition, in regards to negotiations I cannot believe that corporate lobbyists are not kept highly apprised of what is happening and do not play a very active role in those negotiations.

So how in the hell is having Trump's corporate buddies negotiate the trade agreements going to make them great for America? In addition, it's not that the writers or negotiators were stupid. There were PLENTY of people speaking out about how NAFTA etc would be devastating to the American people so they can't blame it on stupidity.

It is crap like this that makes one wonder if Trump is working with Clinton

ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT. These agreements can override laws that have been passed and cede U.S. sovereignty to multinational corporations. It is about MUCH MORE than trade yet we haven't even heard this mentioned. And we have heard NO mention of the TISA they are working on.

See - Stop the Insanity: Something FAR worse than TPP is on the Horizon.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511077892

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pampango

(24,692 posts)
1. I suspect Trump longs for the good ol' days of Coolidge and Hoover before FDR 'messed it up'.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:42 AM
Mar 2016

Back then the US had no trade agreements, belonged to no international trade organizations and did whatever we want to do, acting unilaterally when, where and how we wanted to. No country or international tribunal told the US what to do with its trade rules (though they could and did retaliate when we did something they did not like, such as raising tariffs).

Then FDR came along and 'messed things up' - from a Trump perspective - and had the idea of countries governing trade cooperatively rather than each one going for maximum advantage to the detriment of all the others.

I think Donald would love to tear up existing agreements (he is an authoritarian who will act 'decisively' after all) - which he would have to do to unilaterally impose tariffs on Mexico, China and other countries he does not like. If he negotiated new trade agreements at all, which I doubt, they would be only bilateral with the US always the stronger and bigger partner so that we could impose our will on the weaker, smaller 'partner'. And you are right, his corporate buddies would do the negotiating, not labor unions or environmental groups whom he undermines at every turn.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
4. Hard to believe not one person has not called him on this. The corporations wrote these agreements
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:07 PM
Mar 2016

and I'm sure were a BIG part of the negotiations so how can corporations deliver better trade agreements?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
5. I have heard him talk about tearing up trade agreements. I have not heard him talk about
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

making new ones.

I think he prefers to act unilaterally rather than negotiate new agreements that would limit him later. That is what Coolidge and Hoover did and he seems to be a throw-back to the republicans of that era. They raised tariffs to protect the domestic market of the corporations who provided their campaign funds. It seems that corporations exert their influence no matter what the policy is.

I'm sure if Trump did negotiate new trade agreements, it would be his corporate buddies doing the negotiating. If he decides to raise tariffs unilaterally instead, his corporate buddies will probably negotiate those details as well.

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