2016 Postmortem

imagine2015

(2,054 posts) Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:50 AM Mar 2016

Sanders points to polls showing him as a stronger candidate than Hillary against Trump

Bernie Sanders Forges Ahead With Jabs at Donald Trump
By ALAN RAPPEPORT and YAMICHE ALCINDOR
March 19, 2016

Undeterred by questions of delegate math or political momentum, Senator Bernie Sanders brushed off suggestions on Friday that his campaign had no way forward and forcefully made the case that he was the Democratic candidate better suited to defeat Donald J. Trump in a general election.

“Let me say a word to you about my good friend Donald Trump,” Mr. Sanders said at a rally before more than 3,000 people at a high school gym in Idaho Falls. “Just kidding, he’s not my good friend. In fact I never even went to one of his weddings.”

Despite the veiled jab at Mrs. Clinton, who did attend Mr. Trump’s third wedding, Mr. Sanders directed most of his fire at the leading Republican candidate. He said he was “making an exception” to his promise not to campaign negatively, saying it was a necessary evil because of the gravity of Mr. Trump’s rise.

“The truth is that Donald Trump is a pathological liar,” Mr. Sanders said, spending several minutes discussing Mr. Trump’s record of bending the truth. “People can disagree about ideas, but you cannot have a president who the American people cannot trust when he speaks.”

Mr. Sanders pointed to several polls that show him as the stronger candidate to take on Mr. Trump, ....

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bernie-sanders-forges-ahead-with-jabs-at-donald-trump/ar-BBqDrus

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Sanders points to polls showing him as a stronger candidate than Hillary against Trump (Original Post) imagine2015 Mar 2016 OP

ONE WEEK before the 2012 election these brilliant pollsters had Romney winning (drop mic) Trust Buster Mar 2016 #1

Which pollsters? Be specific if you can. imagine2015 Mar 2016 #5

Hillary had a 20% lead in the polls ONE WEEK before Michigan. Sanders is being shamefully Trust Buster Mar 2016 #8

... LexVegas Mar 2016 #2

NY Times repeats again and again their claim it will be hard to overcome delegate deficit. rgbecker Mar 2016 #3

But can he beat Hillary? Agschmid Mar 2016 #4

If he were facing her in the general election of course he could and would win easily. imagine2015 Mar 2016 #7

Yes fewer people vote in the primary... Agschmid Mar 2016 #9

The poll that counts is on election day ucrdem Mar 2016 #6

I'm sure Bernie could easily win the GE griffi94 Mar 2016 #10

Bernie benefits greatly from not being the front runner. DCBob Mar 2016 #11

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)

1. ONE WEEK before the 2012 election these brilliant pollsters had Romney winning (drop mic)

Reply to imagine2015 (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:53 AM

Mar 2016

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)

5. Which pollsters? Be specific if you can.

Reply to Trust Buster (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:09 AM

Mar 2016

If you can't provide documentation I have to wonder if you just made this up.

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)

8. Hillary had a 20% lead in the polls ONE WEEK before Michigan. Sanders is being shamefully

Reply to imagine2015 (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:15 AM

Mar 2016

disingenuous pointing to a poll 6 months out. As for the Romney polls, here they are;

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

LexVegas

(6,059 posts)

2. ...

Reply to imagine2015 (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:55 AM

Mar 2016

rgbecker

(4,826 posts)

3. NY Times repeats again and again their claim it will be hard to overcome delegate deficit.

Reply to imagine2015 (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:07 AM

Mar 2016

Only 4 paragraphs in the short article needed to make their point. They need new writers who can stretch it out like we did in high school.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

4. But can he beat Hillary?

Reply to imagine2015 (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:07 AM

Mar 2016

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)

7. If he were facing her in the general election of course he could and would win easily.

Reply to Agschmid (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:12 AM

Mar 2016

But that's not the way it works in this election.

Very few people are voting in this primary ..... probably less than 10% of potential voters who will vote in the General Election.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

9. Yes fewer people vote in the primary...

Reply to imagine2015 (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:15 AM

Mar 2016

Can you please post the popular vote totals up to this date and let us know which candidate has managed to get the most votes so far?

Just curious.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

6. The poll that counts is on election day

Reply to imagine2015 (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:10 AM

Mar 2016

and so far Hillary is beating Trump and Sanders isn't. Total 2016 primary votes, by candidate:

Clinton - 8,668,136

Trump - 7,548,429

Sanders - 6,131,951

griffi94

(3,733 posts)

10. I'm sure Bernie could easily win the GE

Reply to imagine2015 (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:20 AM

Mar 2016

He doesn't however seem to be able to win the primaries.

I'm also confident that Hillary can win the GE.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)

11. Bernie benefits greatly from not being the front runner.

Reply to imagine2015 (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:29 AM

Mar 2016

All the attacks from the GOP are now aimed squarely at Hillary Clinton whom they assume will be the Dem nominee. If Bernie somehow miraculously wins the nomination the GOP will begin to focus their attacks on Bernie and his numbers will drop... like a rock.

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