2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDoes the Democratic Establishment use Progressives to Bail Out their failed Centrist Politics
If you watched the rout of the Clinton's Failed Centrist Policies unfold in what now is referred to as the Republican Revolution in 1994 then you remember what it was like to have a 44 year Democratic majority of the House upended
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Revolution
Not until 2006 led by PROGRESSIVE Candidates did the Democratic Brand start to recover
Why a Conservative America is a Myth
In truth, however, the Democratic class of 2006 was remarkably progressive. According to a survey conducted by Media Matters, all 30 newly elected House Democrats who took Republican seats advocated raising the minimum wage, supported changing course in Iraq, and opposed any effort to privatize Social Security. All but two supported embryonic stem cell research and only five described themselves as "pro-life" on the issue of abortion. Thirty-seven House and Senate candidates who promoted "fair trade" rather than "free trade" won; none of them lost.9 Candidates in the freshman class who were conservative on a particular issue got the lion's share of attention, but they were a distinct minority.
http://mediamatters.org/research/progmaj/
And of course lost it once again when Centrist/Third Way policies prevailed in Washington again
All this reference from Centrist Democrats (Third Way) to label Progressives as any thing other then American's values just doesn't hold water
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/12/29/395766/poll-progressive-is-the-most-positively-viewed-political-label-in-america/
Corporatist masquerading as Democrats have Failed the Party, and have created divisiveness within the Party which has benefited Republicans every time
The Moral of the story - If your going to be a Democrat BE a Democrat, not some messed up Republican-Lite masking your corporate affiliations with New Buzz Words
Be the Democrat ... Uhmmmmm
Be the Democrat ... Uhmmmmm
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
amborin
(16,631 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)just wondering if you can see it
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)article, it wasnt, was it?
You therefore knowingly or not used GOP meme in your thread title.
Here is me: Bernie supporter who will vote against fascism if I have to by voting for Hillary
Here is you?: Bernie supporter who will not vote against fascism because I didnt get everything I wanted.
Is that you, did I get that right?
If not please tell me and I will leave.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)DLC/Centrist/Purist meme: Bernie supporter who will not vote against fascism because I didnt get everything I wanted.
vintx
(1,748 posts)That gets on my last nerve but regardless, K&R
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)And it is possible, maybe, that it was unintentional, I cant know what is in her or his heart.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)and thanks for the divisiveness
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)But the obvious needs to be discussed. The Term Progressive, while mostly misunderstood embraces the country's sentiment
Bottom Line
The progressive label seems to be gaining popularity in American politics, with numerous high-profile political players and groups using it either as a substitute for "liberal" or as a nuanced alternative to it. Given the high degree of public uncertainty about what the term means -- as well as the lack of opposition to it from the political center -- that could be a successful strategy, at least if the goal is to avoid being pigeonholed.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/141218/americans-unsure-progressive-political-label.aspx
Using the label has it's own benefits - adhering to it's ideology is some thing entirely different
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)have voted straight Dem ticket for over 35 yrs
Don't appreciate the Centrist Shift even thou I voted for Bill. Since then, the Centrist Wing of the Dem party has become even more Corporatist and less serving of the people
So what are you doing to prevent the Corporatist take over of our party
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Americans and immigrants, you dont care, you will vote ONLY if you get EXACTLY what you want.
Yes, we know.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)I think your making your position in all this quite clear
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)that there is a huge difference between any Democratic person running vs GOP or we dont.
If we dont agree that there is, therein lies your problem...
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Republicans winning big due to failed policies don't matter to you - you even encourage it
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Where in this thread did anyone say this
because that isn't progressive at all
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)BTW My mother was an immigrant. As was my grandmother who was also a socialist. When I was a kid, we're poor. Hungry, sometimes, homeless poor. Spare me the faux concern of "not as bad" candidates who got very rich playing politics and collaborating with the Republicans you fear.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)KPN
(15,637 posts)That's not to say that you don't. But for those who happen to side with the views of the post, that's kind of what it's all about. Being genuine to one's principles. And it does seem that there are at least two vastly different sets of principles alive in the Democratic Party today.
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)... likely not.
Who needs em?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)This. There is no money in representing the poor and working class. Maddow and Krugman and the other dc dems get paid by Comcast and the nyt and such. Eventually they are going to sell out. Liberals who maintain their principles find decent paying jobs hard to come by.