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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:52 PM Mar 2016

Does the Democratic Establishment use Progressives to Bail Out their failed Centrist Politics

If you watched the rout of the Clinton's Failed Centrist Policies unfold in what now is referred to as the Republican Revolution in 1994 then you remember what it was like to have a 44 year Democratic majority of the House upended


The Republican Revolution, Revolution of '94 or Gingrich Revolution refers to the Republican Party (GOP) success in the 1994 U.S. midterm elections,[1] which resulted in a net gain of 54 seats in the House of Representatives, and a pickup of eight seats in the Senate. The day after the election, Democratic Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama changed parties, becoming a Republican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Revolution




Not until 2006 led by PROGRESSIVE Candidates did the Democratic Brand start to recover



The Progressive Majority:
Why a Conservative America is a Myth



In truth, however, the Democratic class of 2006 was remarkably progressive. According to a survey conducted by Media Matters, all 30 newly elected House Democrats who took Republican seats advocated raising the minimum wage, supported changing course in Iraq, and opposed any effort to privatize Social Security. All but two supported embryonic stem cell research and only five described themselves as "pro-life" on the issue of abortion. Thirty-seven House and Senate candidates who promoted "fair trade" rather than "free trade" won; none of them lost.9 Candidates in the freshman class who were conservative on a particular issue got the lion's share of attention, but they were a distinct minority.

http://mediamatters.org/research/progmaj/




And of course lost it once again when Centrist/Third Way policies prevailed in Washington again


All this reference from Centrist Democrats (Third Way) to label Progressives as any thing other then American's values just doesn't hold water







Corporatist masquerading as Democrats have Failed the Party, and have created divisiveness within the Party which has benefited Republicans every time

The Moral of the story - If your going to be a Democrat BE a Democrat, not some messed up Republican-Lite masking your corporate affiliations with New Buzz Words

Be the Democrat ... Uhmmmmm
Be the Democrat ... Uhmmmmm
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Does the Democratic Establishment use Progressives to Bail Out their failed Centrist Politics (Original Post) FreakinDJ Mar 2016 OP
Bernie Is The Only Antidote To Rampant DNC DWS DLC HRC Third-Way Corporatist Corruption cantbeserious Mar 2016 #1
and the only antidote to the destruction of the Dem party amborin Mar 2016 #3
Title of thread alone has GOP talking point meme in it, wonder if you can even see it anymore. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #2
Do Centerist / Third Wayers even resemble Democrats anymore FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #4
I see what you are doing. I clicked on every link to see if your OP was taken from an Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #5
What GOP meme? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #7
Perhaps they mean the use of "Democrat" instead of "Democratic" vintx Mar 2016 #9
Does not surprise me that you cant see it. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #10
Obvioulsy you have a magic decoder ring. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #13
Be honest, look at the OP title. Do you see it? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #14
No one except you FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #17
Let's see if you can figure it out. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #20
If it's so bloody obvious why can't you point it out? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #23
I'll try not to be divisive FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #16
You still dont see it, maybe it wasnt intentional and meant to be demeaning. Who knows anymore Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #18
My first presidential vote was for Carter FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #8
And, they wonder why they are losing progressives who refuse to hold their noses. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #6
We know, we know. Regardless of the real life physical harm that will come to many millions of Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #11
But nothing is said of policies that lead to RATpubliCON Landslides FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #19
I dont know what that means. I thought it was simple, either we agree or we dont Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #22
Your proving my point FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #24
Nonsense, dont LIE about what I said. I said the OPPOSITE. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #25
Your Thread Trashing FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #26
What I want is a government that isn't warmongering and corrupt. And, I'm voting for that. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #21
Don't worry - the Majority agrees with you FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #27
I think it comes down to having integrity. KPN Mar 2016 #28
You mean the ones that rec overtly racist post on a progressive forum?! Those "progressives"? Most.. uponit7771 Mar 2016 #12
The party big shots stay rich by losing. The Clintons are just the most egregious example of Doctor_J Mar 2016 #15
"Democrat"? DavidDvorkin Mar 2016 #29

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
5. I see what you are doing. I clicked on every link to see if your OP was taken from an
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

article, it wasnt, was it?

You therefore knowingly or not used GOP meme in your thread title.

Here is me: Bernie supporter who will vote against fascism if I have to by voting for Hillary

Here is you?: Bernie supporter who will not vote against fascism because I didnt get everything I wanted.

Is that you, did I get that right?

If not please tell me and I will leave.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. What GOP meme?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

DLC/Centrist/Purist meme: Bernie supporter who will not vote against fascism because I didnt get everything I wanted.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
9. Perhaps they mean the use of "Democrat" instead of "Democratic"
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016

That gets on my last nerve but regardless, K&R

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
14. Be honest, look at the OP title. Do you see it?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

And it is possible, maybe, that it was unintentional, I cant know what is in her or his heart.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
16. I'll try not to be divisive
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

But the obvious needs to be discussed. The Term Progressive, while mostly misunderstood embraces the country's sentiment


Americans Unsure About "Progressive" Political Label





Bottom Line

The progressive label seems to be gaining popularity in American politics, with numerous high-profile political players and groups using it either as a substitute for "liberal" or as a nuanced alternative to it. Given the high degree of public uncertainty about what the term means -- as well as the lack of opposition to it from the political center -- that could be a successful strategy, at least if the goal is to avoid being pigeonholed.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141218/americans-unsure-progressive-political-label.aspx



Using the label has it's own benefits - adhering to it's ideology is some thing entirely different
 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
8. My first presidential vote was for Carter
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

have voted straight Dem ticket for over 35 yrs

Don't appreciate the Centrist Shift even thou I voted for Bill. Since then, the Centrist Wing of the Dem party has become even more Corporatist and less serving of the people

So what are you doing to prevent the Corporatist take over of our party

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
11. We know, we know. Regardless of the real life physical harm that will come to many millions of
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

Americans and immigrants, you dont care, you will vote ONLY if you get EXACTLY what you want.

Yes, we know.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
19. But nothing is said of policies that lead to RATpubliCON Landslides
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

I think your making your position in all this quite clear

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
22. I dont know what that means. I thought it was simple, either we agree or we dont
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

that there is a huge difference between any Democratic person running vs GOP or we dont.

If we dont agree that there is, therein lies your problem...

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
24. Your proving my point
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

Republicans winning big due to failed policies don't matter to you - you even encourage it

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
26. Your Thread Trashing
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

Where in this thread did anyone say this

you will vote ONLY if you get EXACTLY what you want.



because that isn't progressive at all
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
21. What I want is a government that isn't warmongering and corrupt. And, I'm voting for that.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

BTW My mother was an immigrant. As was my grandmother who was also a socialist. When I was a kid, we're poor. Hungry, sometimes, homeless poor. Spare me the faux concern of "not as bad" candidates who got very rich playing politics and collaborating with the Republicans you fear.

KPN

(15,637 posts)
28. I think it comes down to having integrity.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

That's not to say that you don't. But for those who happen to side with the views of the post, that's kind of what it's all about. Being genuine to one's principles. And it does seem that there are at least two vastly different sets of principles alive in the Democratic Party today.

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
12. You mean the ones that rec overtly racist post on a progressive forum?! Those "progressives"? Most..
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:18 PM
Mar 2016

... likely not.

Who needs em?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
15. The party big shots stay rich by losing. The Clintons are just the most egregious example of
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

This. There is no money in representing the poor and working class. Maddow and Krugman and the other dc dems get paid by Comcast and the nyt and such. Eventually they are going to sell out. Liberals who maintain their principles find decent paying jobs hard to come by.

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