I'd infiltrate the Democrats to push Hillary to the nomination.


She's a ticking time bomb.

it will be non-stop Clinton Foundation foreign donors.

I hope the Democratic party has somebody lined up to get the "coronation" because if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, we are absolutely screwed if there isn't a backup.

It scares the shit out of me that we could potentially be looking at "President Cruz".

to insultingly call the supporters of one candidate "BernieBros". Or to accuse them of various things such as racism, bigotry, misogyny, etc...


Oh wait.

FEAR, FEAR, FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fault lies with the Dem. party pushing a candidate with unfavorable ratings so high that the ONLY way she would win is by playing the fear card and trying to get people to hold their noses and vote for someone they don't trust or like.

She needs more independents that she can get. Her only hope is massive voter turnout that trends to her.

What matters are the Independents - they make up 40 percent of the electorate. Both Dems and Republicans make up abotu 30 percent, each (Dems are slightly more).

And, they don't like Hillary.

... has sunk their teeth into.

There maybe 10% true independents on a national level that will cross in a regular election.

When it comes to trump it looks like that number goes up to 15%

Zealotry always overcomes rationality. Hopefully we will come through this in one piece. To destroy ourselves because we like two different candidates is the definition of insanity. You are so right, when the GOP got to redraw congressional districts to give themselves unbeatable incumbents, we were asleep at the wheel. We need to rebuilt from the bottom up and run people who will work to restore the balance in the system, independent panels that redraw state districts. We will have another census coming up in 2020, and that is a really important goal to accomplish. Both Bernie and Hillary would do this, but without a 60 vote firewall, they will not accomplish what they want, I know that, I wish they did.

we don't need your vote. She will win without it.

you're welcome

whose vote is needed, then ???

Which is absolutely insane. I didn't know those sour grapes were so bitter.

You know, voting on issues v personality.

I am firmly convinced that many of the insulting posts on DU are not from Democrats

When W was President, I used to get these emails from my super conservative cousin. The emails she forwarded to me were supposedly written by ordinary people. Come to find out, many were composed by people who were paid to write them to look as though they were written by ordinary people.

I think that someday we will learn that some of these super rich people like the Koch brothers paid people to do the same kind of thing on DU and other websites because you are right: the Koch brothers and their ilk are the ones who will benefit if a Republican is in the White House.

In fact one of the most prolific ones posted on a right-wing site about how she was afraid of "the Jews".

"It's over, your candidate can't win"

Why bother to disparage them then? Like I wrote, maintain the status quo.

and have never seen a candidate they assumed was perfect. We know the system sucks, and try to work to change it at the local level. We don't fool ourselves that staying home and posting on the net accomplishes much at all.

They aren't staying at home. They just don't feel the Dems with H in front is the party of choice.

Bernie supporters will either write his name in, vote for Jill Stein and some - Independent voters who are ardently anti-establishment - will vote for Trump (although, they won't go with Cruz).

And, yes, that would be revolutionary: not supporting the establishment candidate.

the crowd.

contain? Yeah I see what you are saying, while you would be trying to put fire to your neighbors house, your own is burning down to the ground..its an interesting concept..a bit out there..but interesting to an 11 year old.

but call its members Dems. I'd then hijack the power structure of the Dem Party and chase the same corporate money as Repubs.
Of course, I'd also pursue the policy preferences of my new big-money donors. Then, when the takeover is almost complete, I'd question the loyalty of any Dems that are still challenging the new status quo.

but no need for Dems to do that to Repubicans this time around!

doing my work for me.

Odd, but true.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/15/1485368/-DONALD-TRUMP-is-left-of-Hillary-on-health-care-Iraq-and-special-interests

win over Independents.

I'm a Democrat, big difference.

And get a charming conservative to agree to call himself a Democrat and run for office.