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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:01 PM Mar 2016

The Bernie Sanders voters who would choose Trump over Clinton

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/13/bernie-sanders-supporters-consider-donald-trump-no-hillary-clinton

The latest startling phenomenon is the voter who is feeling the Bern, but also has eyes for the Donald.

This week the Guardian sought out Sanders fans who are contemplating switching their allegiance to Trump if Hillary Clinton secures the Democratic nomination.

Almost 700 people replied to the call-out, and some 500 of them said they were thinking the unthinkable: a Sanders-Trump switch.

They explained their unconventional position by expressing a variety of passionately held views on their shared commitment for protecting workers and against new wars, on their zeal for an alternative to the establishment, and on their desire to support anyone but Hillary Clinton.

As one respondent, a 34-year-old male IT technician, put it: “Bernie and Trump agree a lot on healthcare, Iraq war, campaign finance and trade. I really want to move on to something new, new ideas from outside the box. Maybe Donald Trump can provide that.”


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Sid
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The Bernie Sanders voters who would choose Trump over Clinton (Original Post) SidDithers Mar 2016 OP
I would NEVER do that, NEVER. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #1
I agree with your comment mcar Mar 2016 #12
here here pantsonfire Mar 2016 #37
that IT tech sounds like the low information voters we've been geek tragedy Mar 2016 #2
Perhaps, when Trump releases his list of "acceptable jurists" for the Supreme Court . . . Journeyman Mar 2016 #3
just wow dlwickham Mar 2016 #4
I call bullshit on this (nt) matt819 Mar 2016 #5
Really? based on the "I hate Hillary so much..." BSers at DU, it seems quite likely Nt Sheepshank Mar 2016 #27
Trump and Bernie actually have a lot in common. For example: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #6
I don't think Bernie is friends with Trump Politicalboi Mar 2016 #13
I think Hillary and Trump definitely have more in common NWCorona Mar 2016 #19
IDK, they both want to dismantle Obamacare, dislike trade deals, and are cool with guns. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #22
I'm glad my pic made you skeptical NWCorona Mar 2016 #25
Whats with you constantly linking to rightwing sites? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #26
What's with you using Karl Rove tactics against Bernie? NWCorona Mar 2016 #30
Jury results MelissaB Mar 2016 #39
Thank you! NWCorona Mar 2016 #41
Jesus H. Christ. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2016 #7
Independant Sanders supporters are under no obligation to support Clinton. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #8
You forget the 26% of Repub voters who say they wont vote Trump. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #23
Fantasy land. She'll get a few percent more than Obama of the republican voters AT MOST. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #31
33% of voters right? pantsonfire Mar 2016 #40
My, my Hillary inspires voters to commit harikari Segami Mar 2016 #9
I know a lot of Sanders supporters IRL and have not met one who says they would not vote for Hillary hrmjustin Mar 2016 #10
I have a few who are making noise about not supporting her. wildeyed Mar 2016 #24
The mind boggles mcar Mar 2016 #11
p = 0.09 Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #14
There is nothing in common between a Sanders supporters and a support of that racist slimeball Trump Tarc Mar 2016 #15
Overblown. joshcryer Mar 2016 #16
Agreed... SidDithers Mar 2016 #28
Fair enough. joshcryer Mar 2016 #35
The Bernie supporters I speak to are NOT going to vote for Trump, Jill Stein maybe but Trump? jillan Mar 2016 #17
I hear mostly Clinton and am tempted to vote for Jill Stein. pantsonfire Mar 2016 #38
Fucking IDIOTS MohRokTah Mar 2016 #18
Any Bernie supporter that votes for Trump would be an idiot. NWCorona Mar 2016 #20
Sid, ask yourself this: Where would you find a Bernie supporter who's going to Dynamite Dave Mar 2016 #21
There has been a couple of threads today where they're fawning all over Trump. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #29
That's bullshit. You Hillary fanatics claim any suggesting Trump might win as fawning. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #34
Cool story, bro Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #42
If the choice was Trump or Cruz I would have to write in a name. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #32
Trump hates labor, I could never vote for him. Philly-Union-Man Mar 2016 #33
Thanks for posting this article accurately. Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #36
 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
37. here here
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

Edit: Opps kinda off topic, though it may be a good "analogy" for fearing that Democrats are switching over to vote for Trump or will in the general. The primaries are a much different ball game.

Back in May 07, 50% of Clinton supporters said they wouldn't vote for Obama against McCain...[link:http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/06/exit-polls-half-of-clintons-supporters-wont-back-obama/|

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
3. Perhaps, when Trump releases his list of "acceptable jurists" for the Supreme Court . . .
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:04 PM
Mar 2016

people will see him better for what he is, not what he pretends to be.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
6. Trump and Bernie actually have a lot in common. For example:
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:05 PM
Mar 2016

Neither of them can beat Hillary in an election.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
13. I don't think Bernie is friends with Trump
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:10 PM
Mar 2016

Or he accepted money from Trump. So yes the Clinton's have more in common with Trump than Bernie. And I too would NEVER vote for Trump.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
26. Whats with you constantly linking to rightwing sites?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:23 PM
Mar 2016

Karl Rove. FOX News. Stossel.

You really think im pressing play on that nonsense?

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
30. What's with you using Karl Rove tactics against Bernie?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:26 PM
Mar 2016

I don't care if you press play or not. I think the video is as wrong as you comparing Bernie to trump.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
39. Jury results
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:55 PM
Mar 2016
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:36 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Big woo.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: John Stossel--nice dude.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I have seen this elsewhere, not just on RW media. Also, it could be considered evidence that Trump is NOT a conservative rather than that HRC is--i.e., Trump bashing from the RW perspective..
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I watched the video, no matter the source I highly doubt they are lying.
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. Independant Sanders supporters are under no obligation to support Clinton.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:07 PM
Mar 2016

And attempts to brow-beat them into supporting her will simply drive them further away. IDK how she can win the GE with 2/3 of Dem voters (29%) and 1/3 of Independant voters (43%), but carry on.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
23. You forget the 26% of Repub voters who say they wont vote Trump.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:19 PM
Mar 2016

She will peel off many Repub women and minorities.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
31. Fantasy land. She'll get a few percent more than Obama of the republican voters AT MOST.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:27 PM
Mar 2016

The minority voters are already counted in Hillary's Democratic total.

If she loses the independents, she loses the election.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
10. I know a lot of Sanders supporters IRL and have not met one who says they would not vote for Hillary
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:08 PM
Mar 2016

I hope my experience is the same all around.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
24. I have a few who are making noise about not supporting her.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016

Important to understand that they are not actually Democrats or progressives either. And I am ALLLL the way inside their heads now about how much POWER it gives Bernie Sanders if his supporters send the Dems over the top for a win. Which is not altogether bullshit. And they all have issues that would make it very, very stupid to allow a GOP victory. So even those will probably settle down eventually.

The actual progressives, some are posting pro-Hillary stuff already. And a few are castigating their fellow Sanders supporters for bad behavior toward Clinton too. That is fun.

In 2008, the only friends I had who started with Clinton and did not come around to Obama were also not progressives. Irony, this time they hate Clinton. They are so goddam precious and special, those two. No candidate who can win is ever up to their high, high standards

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
15. There is nothing in common between a Sanders supporters and a support of that racist slimeball Trump
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

This is a silly non-story.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
28. Agreed...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

One DUer had a different interpretation of the article, tho.

I just wanted to make sure there was a thread that reflected the actual title and content of the article.

Sid

jillan

(39,451 posts)
17. The Bernie supporters I speak to are NOT going to vote for Trump, Jill Stein maybe but Trump?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:13 PM
Mar 2016

Not happening.

 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
38. I hear mostly Clinton and am tempted to vote for Jill Stein.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:53 PM
Mar 2016

I'm in the I'll probably vote for Clinton in the general if she wins the nomination. Bill Maher is a huge Bernie supporter, he wishes he could donate more haha. He said this during one of his shows, “We have two good candidates. It’s like on the airlines sometimes you don’t get the fish so you have the chicken. I’ll eat the chicken if I have to.”

 

Dynamite Dave

(26 posts)
21. Sid, ask yourself this: Where would you find a Bernie supporter who's going to
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:17 PM
Mar 2016

go for Trump?

Because I certainly can't find any.


 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
29. There has been a couple of threads today where they're fawning all over Trump.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

They don't seem to have a compass.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
34. That's bullshit. You Hillary fanatics claim any suggesting Trump might win as fawning.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:31 PM
Mar 2016

Well guess what. Trump might win. There are numerous scenarios where that could happen.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. If the choice was Trump or Cruz I would have to write in a name.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:28 PM
Mar 2016

Either one of those two losers would not be good for America. It has to be a Democrat.

 

Philly-Union-Man

(79 posts)
33. Trump hates labor, I could never vote for him.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

He's bad for working people all around. Anti-labor, horrible tax plan and healthcare repeal make him a non-starter for any working person. It should anyway. He says a lot of the right things and I agree with him on a few things but voting for him is out of the question.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
36. Thanks for posting this article accurately.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:39 PM
Mar 2016

It's really pretty sad that it's come down to appreciating it when someone isn't using this site to mislead.

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