2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBill with the preview of Hillary General Strategy
Bill's comments today about Obama is a preview of Hillary strategy in the general. I don't think she ever intended to hug Obama like she did in the primaries, and unfortunately left wing loon like Bernie started getting traction, so she had to go to plan B for the primaries. I think Plan A is still in the cards for the general. It will go something like this.
1) Primaries proved Hillary is not going to win with Obama coalition. Sure she will get the same margins with Obamas demos (POC, woman, and young voters) but turnout is a totally different equation. It is not enough to win for example AA 95-5. You need them to vote in similar numbers as they did for Obama. It is clear these groups are not enthusiastic as they were for Obama, and given how negative this campaign will get (and her unfavorables) this will be low turnout election.
2) Anything close to 50% turnout is automatic lose for Dems. So she needs to do better with white votes and older voters to win. Thankfully loon like Trump is running, but that is no guarantee for win by itself. If you are relying on the 50% that always votes, these voters might vote for someone like Trump vs "liberal"
3) This is where her "moderate" strategy comes in. She will run as someone who can get things done in Washington just like her Husband in the 90s. Remember those years? Washington worked with great bipartisanship! Last 10-15 years have being divisive, and we need to "heal" our country. Dems & Republicans can work together than. Lets put this divisive years behind us. Perfect strategy especially when on the other side is someone like Trump.
I'm liberal and progressive, IMO that is the only way she will win. Trying to play Obama playbook is a loser because there is no way she can get the same number of people to come out for her. Against any other GOP candidate its a losing strategy, but it has outside shot of winning against Trump. I just hope we liberals don't get blamed if she is unable to win over GOP voters.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Curious
kcjohn1
(751 posts)I think Bernie center candidate and holds views the majority of the people agree with.
I would say from establishment candidate like Hillary, he is fringe part of the party, and outside the main stream of thought in the democratic party establishment.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)But ... In a way ... You simply catapulted the notion without clarification ... It's as if YOU said it ...
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)jus' saying!
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JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Can't help yourself?
dchill
(38,474 posts)Califonz
(465 posts)dchill
(38,474 posts)We have a winner!
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)"Washington worked with great bipartisanship!"
Clinton got impeached! Come on! Eight years of bullshit scandals, which is what we'd get with Clinton II, except only half as long. The "bipartisanship" was in screwing the poor, filling the prisons, and deregulating the media and the banks - directly setting up the MBS scam and the financial crash.
Talk about loony history!
840high
(17,196 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)I remember those years. I do NOT want to have to defend bad behavior like that again. Did it once, against my better judgement. Refuse to do it again.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)The Republicans tried to run a coup d'etat by sex scandal and actually got as far as an impeachment vote in the House and a 55-45 vote of the Senate not to convict! With that and the Gingrich government shutdown they swamped the administration for several years out of the two terms! The OP isn't a minor retouch, it's a total erasure of the whole history as understood by the mainstream then and now!
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)And that caused a world of hurt on the very people least able to withstand it.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)The administration wanted it that way. They did not fight a political struggle for a platform, they only defended, defended against the bullshit. It had its "bipartisan" uses for both sides.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)Even in the good old days it would have been impossible to get an R to vote for them. They need to find votes another way.