and sparkleponies if deliverable at all.

Some people astutely figured out that it was all hot air and none of it could ever pass.

I WANT MY RAINBOW SHITTING UNICORN FOR FREE, DAMNIT!!!!!!

I see what you did there.

It sounds so......Republican

authoritarian

If I'm looking for "funny" ways to bash liberalism, I can turn on Fox News, Right Wing Radio or read the NY Post.

Better?

him isn't helpful. It's divisive. And at some point the party might split over this. Bernie represents a new generation, and that counts for a lot.

Parts of the Bernie contingent who were libertarian, anarchists and antiestablishment fanatics will go back to where they came from and wait for another Ron Paul.

True democrats will remain democrats and support Hillary.

Bernie can and will deliver the Democrats the POTUS. Isn't that the goal anyway?

Clinton can't, and will easily deliver POTUS to the Republicans. She's not that inspiring and without the Independents' help, she has no chance. Her Independent support is suffering at around 8-9% nationally, and it has shown on open primaries, where independents are allowed to vote on the platform and the electors.

1) Too frustrated and idealist to accept the inherent corruption and inaction of the Democratic Party (the young)

2)Fed up with decades of seeing the Democrats either give up or sell out on issues related to concentration of Wealth and Power, and on the verge of saying "Screw It. Tired of this crap."....(Old Farts like me.)

There's a bigger sense of that than many seem to acknowledge.

that they'll let Trump win.

as to how to better their lives. It's not clear who Hillary will represent, what class she'll favor when push comes to shove.

I am going to vote for Hillary if she's the nominee, most of us will. It's better to show you can relate to the concerns being broadcast by those attracted to Bernie's message.

Give it a try. Don't let fear close your mind since most of us will vote for the nominee.

Sometimes people get caught up in their own side's campaign rhetoric and start believing the smears.

If Hillary had not been a caring, compassionate and progressive person, she would not have won the primaries.

but please understand that someone like me who supports Obama very much sees things in Hillary that give pause. Especially her foreign pollicy decisions. I agree that she's done a lot over her career for some groups of people and is certainly competent.

I am a real democrat and have only ever voted for democrats. I'm very tired of Hillary Clinton and her brand of politics. As I'm in Montana I'm seriously considering not voting for her if she wins the nomination basedition on this ridiculous attack on liberal thought. It wing and republicanlite period.

The current Dem party establishment loves them some oligarchy.

were all oligarchs.

I've voted for Democrats since 1973. I am a liberal. My sparkle ponies and unicorns are food, shelter, health care, and education. I see those as basic human needs. I've always felt the Democratic Party was closest to my philosophy. Does that make me not a real democrat? Am I wrong to want those things for all?

should be proud to welcome you with open arms. Good luck to that party ever having any power in your lifetime though.

This is what representative democracy is all about -- we have to go along with what a majority of our fellow citizens approve. It may not be 100% of what we want but that's the nature of the beast.

The message that you hold dear is not attractive to a whole lot of your fellow citizens. That doesn't mean it will always be this way if you stayed in the party. Giving advantage to people like Trump because of your disappointment with some issues is the wrong way in my opinion.

The Goldilocks party it's juuuuust right.

Basic necessities being derided.

But I also think that labeling basic necessities of life as sparkle ponies and unicorns makes me feel like the Democratic Party has no place for liberals at all. You can't continually make fun of liberals and at the same time expect them to toe the line.

I also feel like whatever tiny little inroads we have made are being threatened and not just by republicans, but by democrats.

I would never ever ever vote for Trump. But my party of over 40 years is unrecognizeable. I have always thought of the republicans as obnoxious and arrogant. Take a look at your sig line and you tell me I'm welcome.

I characterize them as near term goals and long term goals. When a complex long term goal becomes "I want it right now yesterday" it becomes a unicorn or a sparklepony and liberals lose credibility.

We are talking about politics -- not a colloquium of ideology and wish lists.

There are things that can be delivered in a given political environment and then there are things that cannot be realistically delivered. The problem with the far left was that they assumed that everything is deliverable because all people would embrace it.

Clinton is a progressive. There is very little difference between Sanders and her. Unfortunately, Hillary's vilification and demonization has made your group start believing those narratives. That pox, Sir, is on your house.

Show me otherwise.

They take one away from reality into the final frontier of "out there"

I hear her, but who am I gonna believe, you or my lying ears?

Who knew it would be on DU? Can I have an autograph?


True Democrats will remain Democrats and support who they want to, your edict notwithstanding.

by voting for him or helping his election by writing in Bernie is not a true democrat. PERIOD.

to quote someone who enjoys telling others what to do... a trait, BTW, I typically attribute to a Republicrat. So, sweet irony should a Republicrat be the one to determine a true Democrat!

Cheers.

Bernie is by far a truer Democrat than HRC.

I am a Bernie supporter, as long as he's in the race. Why? Because he actually stands up authentically for things I think every Democrat ought to stand up for.

You don't have to agree. But how long have you been a Democrat? How hard have you fought? I would put my years and experience and work for the party up against yours, and yet you say these mistaken things based on unicorn thinking by folks like you. Because you seem to find it fine to compromise with a candidate we find untrustworthy, unDemocratic, unProgressive, and sure to hurt the economic prospects at least of many, you think it's fine to despise and discredit Sanders supporters. They may have years of active Democratic participation on you and far higher ideals for what the party was and could and should be.

But no, you've got this snide, smug attitude.

You really ought to be ashamed of yourself.

And if you and your other Hillary supporters don't think the Party is splitting or ought to split or could split for real, you've got another thing coming. People have become emboldened to think there is something better and that they can have it and they can organize for it. And that genie is not going back in the bottle. And we shouldn't really want it to.

If you and Hillary and other supporters were really smart you might try to ensure that we were all on the same team in the end.

That is a decision that you have to make. At the end of the day, one candidate will get the democratic nomination. I have always said that if it is Bernie, I'd support him and campaign for him.

Why doesn't it work the other way around? Don't the voters who voted for Hillary in a majority deserve the respect you demand?

Thanks for talking me down.

I don't feel that great about the nomination process and how it has been handled. And I applaud Bernie for recognizing there are things he could have done better, can still do better.

I'm not happy with a generally silent takeover of the Democratic Party, and I am scared that Trump will find a way to run to the Left of Hillary and really be confusing in that way.

I wish I had more faith in Hillary, and I'd like to see her be a great Democratic leader in the model of F.D.R. But somehow don't think that is in the cards.

I still think the Democratic Party continues to play with fire rather than using it, for these Bernie supporters are some fierce warriors, and they would be better included than excluded. And when it gets hard to tell whether the Democrat or the Republican is more populist, then we legitimately have a problem on our hands.

I guess I will frankly wait and see how Hillary runs and what the other options are. For now, I'm just sticking with Bernie, as long as I can.

However, please consider the fact that Hillary may be an FDR inside but is being a great politician and hiding it to be very electable. She will have the greatest communicator of all times on her side (Bill Clinton) and they can probably do far more than any democrat currently in the leadership could do.

Also remember that Bill Clinton had to deal with a republican majority congress 75% of his term and not all decisions he made were because he believed in them but because he had to go for the greater good.

Trump cannot effectively run to the left of Hilary or he will badly lose republican support and any progressive support he may get will be negligible.

Nevertheless, I respect your position and more power to you and your support of Bernie.

to go to the top 1%.

...and I'm quoting you here, 'sparkleponies and unicorns'?

We should not bother wasting time trying to elect any candidates in this existential void.

such an inspiring slogan. Right on par with Debbie's 2014 hit "who else are you gonna vote for?"

How can I compete with well funded lobbyists whose job it is to influence policy. I can't spend that kind of money. This is my main issue! I want to be able to influence the process. Thanks to Bernie, I am influencing the process.

in terms of lobbyist controlled candidates - at least I think I heard that!

Isn't it a great thing to witness?

are getting inspired to enter public office right about now. It has become clear to so many Democrats, that we need fewer cynics moaning about "unicorns" and "free stuff" and more strong visionaries fighting to elevate working class people.

because so many are sharing the same problems.

This vision is absolutely realistic, and Bernie is not an extremist. So it's a chance to inspire and ground young people in what really matters for the long term care taking of our country.

... the power of the "others" being focused to bring the DNC the candidate that has listened to us, imperfectly, for decades.

Obama and his people knew how to organize effectively.

That's rich coming from Sanders.

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