I think he was important enough to learn what his name is, and how it's spelled! (grin)

... I was unaware that it was so commonly misspelled. There's a moral there, somewhere.

-- Mal

I have just been afraid to mention Gandhi because I felt like people would really go off on that one but that is how special this time and this man is for us right now.

Thank you for your post!

I have never cared if people dislike what I have to say, or who I quote. But I definitely agree that some of our friends here won't be pleased with my identifying Bernie's campaign with Gandhi's.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1542414

would have been for Bernie Sanders.

Of that I'm sure. He liked truth.

As would King.

Another excellent post, H2O Man. Thank you.

There had been enough acrimony here today. I thought this would be something positive that everyone might enjoy.

You and I have opposite views on the morality of Sanders.

In the many decades that I've studied Gandhi, I've never encountered a person who could not spell his name, who was able to engage in a serious discussion about him. It tends to suggest a lack of respect, like if one couldn't spell "Jesus" or "Martin Luther King."

However, the the positive side, neither education or intelligence are required for an individual to grasp the meaning and power of that Truth that Gandhi sought after. Indeed, as he noted, the poor and marginalized had a greater capacity for understanding, and living, Truth.

--Mahatma Dem2

(I attempt to like everyone. To each, her/his own.)

You know, your post has me thinking .....the Peace Maker's campaign to unite people might be an interesting topic here. Do you think that I should try that as an OP?

What resonates for me with Sanders' campaign is that he is creating an alternative narrative that is different from our long habituated violent war mongering system in this country. He is pointing another possibility. Changing the system from within, by creating justice and fulfillment within the domestic environment.... so that our attention does not always have to seek out "enemy" and "target" outside....

We need to become immune to the forces within who are constantly defining our enemies for us.

Who do we call the enemy?
My children, my children
The enemy is poverty
and the wall keeps out the enemy
That's why we build the wall

Patti Smith Group - Gandhi



I had a dream Mr. King If you'll beg my pardon
I was trespassing A sacred garden
And the blossoms fell And they dropped like candy
And nature cried Gandhi Gandhi
And nature cried Gandhi Gandhi

When he was a boy He was afraid of the dark
His mother would fast And pray at his feet
And the lamp burned as he slept Slept as he dreamed
He was dreaming of his sisters Dressed in white muslin
Dressed in white muslin Dancing in a ring
He was afraid of the dark And the lamp burned
And his mother fasted And prayed as he slept
Dreaming of blossoms They were burning his throat
He had eaten flowers Fell burning
Flowers fell burning From the young girls' hair
He was whispering Into his god's ear
Let the children be so Let the children be so
And the lamplight flickered flickered And his mother withered like Job
And he lay there dreaming And the blossoms fell
And Tilak's trumpet Proceeded to call
And the blossoms fell And they dropped like candy
And the people cried Gandhi Gandhi...

I had a dream Mr. King If you'll beg my pardon
I was trespassing The sacred garden
And the blossoms fell Well, they dropped like candy
And nature cried Gandhi Gandhi

Hey little man Awake from your slumber
Get 'em with the numbers Get 'em with the numbers

He was frail and shy And the cast of his mind
Was mercurial Was mercurial
As the sacred verbs Scrawled
In the dust On the floor
On the floor Long live revolution
And the spinning wheel And a handful of salt
And a handful of salt The untouchables
Dropped like candy They called to him
Gandhi Gandhi The children of god
With hands full of candy They called to him
Gandhi Gandhi Feel our woes
Man of the giving Rejoin the living
Rejoin the living Awake from the net
Where you've been sleeping And their climbing climbing
The flowing hair And the golden flowers
Of the young girls Well they dropped all around
They dropped like candy And people cried
Gandhi Gandhi Awake little man
Awake from your slumber And get 'em with the numbers
Get 'em with the numbers

One Two Three Four hundred
Thousand million people
People People...

Awake from your slumber Awake from your slumber
Awake from your slumber And get 'em with the numbers
Get 'em with the numbers Long live revolution
And the spinning wheel Awake awake
Is the mighty appeal Oh, people awake
Awake from your slumber And get 'em with the numbers
Get 'em with the numbers

I had a dream Mr. King
If you'll beg my pardon I was trespassing
The sacred garden And the blossoms fell
Dropped like candy And nature called
Gandhi Gandhi Gandhi Gandhi

Awake from your slumber Awake from your slumber
And get 'em with the numbers Get 'em with the numbers

Thank you.

that is powerful. I vaguely remember it.

Thx for posting.

Get em with the numbers!.......

I've often thought Bernie was similar to Ghandi, and to Dr, King. I believe Dr. King had a profound impact on Bernie. I have never heard that officially, but he speaks about the things Dr, King dd so often. I am surprised more people don't notice that.

The Sanders revolution offers us a non-violent method of instituting social justice.

R&

... I raised this point elsewhere, but I'll repeat it here: arguably, non-violence only works if the oppressor is capable of shame. This may not be true of fascists, who seem to love psychopaths and aspire to psychopathy themselves. Now, the absolute number of psychopathic fascists may be quite small, but if they are willing to be violent enough, is it not likely that all non-violence will lead to is mass graves?

-- Mal

or political campaign.

Just as I don't associate Jesus, or Mohammed, or Buddha with political candidates or elections.

They were activists and leaders who transcended partisan considerations.

Robert F. Kennedy, serving in John F. Kennedy's administration, approved wiretaps on MLK Jr. That's the difference between politicians and transcendent activists, right there.