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If Bernie is such a terrible candidate, and has NO INFLUENCE, why do you want him to drop out? (Original Post) Logical Mar 2016 OP
I don't want him to drop out radical noodle Mar 2016 #1
This. metroins Mar 2016 #2
Guaran-damn-tee the GOP ads have been written, taped and waiting on a shelf for a long ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #11
We have a general to worry about metroins Mar 2016 #13
Injuring each other. In what way? ebayfool Mar 2016 #16
Nice... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #53
That is just a Clinton talking point that you have bought into. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #59
According to Hillary fans, Bernie has no pull anyway. So why would it matter? Logical Mar 2016 #6
I'm stating my opinion radical noodle Mar 2016 #21
+ 1 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #66
So he should just stop talking about his issues? I do not jwirr Mar 2016 #83
People who want him to drop out have turned their attention to November. LonePirate Mar 2016 #3
They'd better turn their attention to May. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #63
The only Dems waiting for May are those who hope an indictment comes to save Bernie's campaign. LonePirate Mar 2016 #82
He's not going to win, but he can damage Hillary if he bashes her from the left. DanTex Mar 2016 #4
Nope, that is the game of politics. Hillary needs to take the heat if needed. nt Logical Mar 2016 #7
The primary game is over. Now the part of the game where the Dems join forces to DanTex Mar 2016 #9
When hillary wins at the convention I agree. Until then, let them fight it out. nt Logical Mar 2016 #14
It's counterproductive. Looks like influential Dems are starting to hint to Sanders that he needs DanTex Mar 2016 #15
Hillary made her case for staying in till June by mentioning the murder of RFK, no less. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #75
Yeah, she was wrong. DanTex Mar 2016 #78
And until Hillary wins at the convention, I will support Bernie. truedelphi Mar 2016 #18
Sounds like you're already ginning up bvf Mar 2016 #90
He can stay in as far as I'm concerned... FarPoint Mar 2016 #5
Consider the possibility that it's the corporate state that Bernie supporters are against. Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #20
Amen! These people call themselves Democrats??? In Name Only! pdsimdars Mar 2016 #60
Yep. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #65
He can run as long as he wants. Kaleva Mar 2016 #8
How generous of you. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #61
She still has to fight the Koch brothers this fall ecstatic Mar 2016 #10
Clintons have a ton of personal money. Probably more than Trump. Let's not worry SDjack Mar 2016 #19
Koch brothers propped up Rubio, not Trump hereforthevoting Mar 2016 #27
Bernie's numbers are way better in a general election kenfrequed Mar 2016 #39
I don't think so, she'll be OUT, being a grandmother in the GE, pdsimdars Mar 2016 #62
Koch Bros gave Clintons millions to start the DLC. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #81
He should stay in as long as he wants Dem2 Mar 2016 #12
No cardiac arrest, more like federal arrest. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #42
Please support the right-wing Benghazi truther thing Dem2 Mar 2016 #44
Did you read what Comey said? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #47
Suddenly, you believe everything you read Dem2 Mar 2016 #49
Well, I certainly cannot believe anything you write. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #50
Just for noting that one should question their sources? Dem2 Mar 2016 #52
Speaking of sophistication . . .you think the server thing is about Benghazi???? WOW! pdsimdars Mar 2016 #68
Nope, no link at all... Dem2 Mar 2016 #72
never mentioned Good Ole Ben ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #73
Better rethink that one pdsimdars Mar 2016 #64
Stay in the race bernie. Hillary doesn't care at this point... dubyadiprecession Mar 2016 #17
I don't think Bernie will really ask Hillary to be his VP pick pdsimdars Mar 2016 #69
Amazing Post!! Bern2WinUSA Mar 2016 #22
As it becomes evident he can't make up the delegate deficit Trenzalore Mar 2016 #23
Apparently they think they can counter his negative attacks which are not winning him voters synergie Mar 2016 #25
Well, aren't you just precious! pdsimdars Mar 2016 #70
Talking about issues are now attacks? jwirr Mar 2016 #84
I don't want him to drop out, I want him to stop being a jerk and using RW smears in synergie Mar 2016 #24
He was doing better Trenzalore Mar 2016 #28
Yeah, but the guy who gave him that advice got a whole lot more money when BS synergie Mar 2016 #30
What made up smear are you tslking about? Links please or self delete! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #32
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to self delete. Bernie has been using right wing smears to synergie Mar 2016 #37
Links! Or are you just making up shit? Or whining? Or both? Logical Mar 2016 #38
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #41
LOL ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #48
Bless your heart, you actually believe that, don't you? You guys are hilarious! synergie Mar 2016 #51
So glad to have ignore here ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #55
Lol, just what i thought, you just whining! Nice try though! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #56
They consider any criticism of her a RW smear... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #45
There's no excuse for supporting Clinton. sibelian Mar 2016 #26
Or, she has better policies, and better track record and most people are not dumb synergie Mar 2016 #31
You can forget about all of that. sibelian Mar 2016 #91
I mean its not like Hillary pulled out before the convention in 08. Sky Masterson Mar 2016 #29
Well, actually she conceded to Obama on June 7, 2008 k8conant Mar 2016 #57
Because he spends his time bashing our candidate and party that will hurt in GE. Not a tough concept seabeyond Mar 2016 #33
Hillary 2008, explaining why she will stay in till June and claiming it is wrong to call for her to Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #77
Tad Devine and Jeff Weaver dont deserve to keep getting paychecks? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #34
Or anyone on this list. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #35
For the same reason you're worried about singular* posters with little to no influence LanternWaste Mar 2016 #36
I'll take False Dilemma for $200, Alex Tarc Mar 2016 #40
+ 1 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #67
He has no path to the nomination. upaloopa Mar 2016 #43
He ISN'T terrible, he DOES have influence and he should drop out. randome Mar 2016 #46
You seem to be clueless . . . . pdsimdars Mar 2016 #71
I HAVE done less than Sanders. Clinton has done more. randome Mar 2016 #79
His campaign feeds the Political-Industrial Complex to no good purpose. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #54
first of all, you are not playing fair. . .. .you're using LOGIC! They don't "get" that. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #58
I want him to stay in and keep the progressive movement growing. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #74
Exactly. And all these Hillary supporters who are so afraid of jwirr Mar 2016 #85
My first presidential vote was in '68. I voted 3rd Party. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #86
Seems like we are reliving history. I hope not. jwirr Mar 2016 #87
Me too. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #89
I don't care if he stays in RandySF Mar 2016 #76
If they were so convinced Hillary has it in the bag, why are they in such bad moods? litlbilly Mar 2016 #80
I would like him to drop out because he is wasting, time, effort, delaying unity and wasting money Sheepshank Mar 2016 #88

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
1. I don't want him to drop out
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:41 PM
Mar 2016

I've also not heard Hillary suggest he drop out. I do think the country would be better served if they stopped bashing one another and started bashing the Republicans.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
11. Guaran-damn-tee the GOP ads have been written, taped and waiting on a shelf for a long ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

time - ready and waiting. We have a primary to tend to, without worrying about the GOP. They will do what they do regardless.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
13. We have a general to worry about
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:53 PM
Mar 2016

Democrats hurting Democrats makes no sense.

Let the GOP devour itself, we can win our primary without injuring each other.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
16. Injuring each other. In what way?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:03 PM
Mar 2016

Never mind. I just saw you posed this very point in Feb. And anyone that posts "I mean Bernie insinuates Hillary is in Wall st. Pocket and Hillary insinuates Bernie is for unicorns. I just kinda wish they'd stick to the topics." is not playing the question straight.

Glad I looked before wasting my time and bandwidth on a disingenuous post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511163167#post4

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
59. That is just a Clinton talking point that you have bought into.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:11 AM
Mar 2016
This is how PRIMARIES ALWAYS happen. The candidates vet each other so we can choose the best nominee.

The fact that Hillary has a lot of baggage and a lot of negatives, is not the fault of Bernie or his supporters. AND, more importantly, none of that baggage or those negatives are lost to the Republicans.

It is VERY IMPORTANT to air out all of it during the primary so we can decide which candidate has the best chance for the General Election.

The fact that Hillary and her supporters are squealing so loud about it means that THEY realize all of her negatives already and are embartassed by them and don't want them out.

But they will come out anyway, so better now when we can do something about it than later when the Republicans will.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
21. I'm stating my opinion
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:47 PM
Mar 2016

I've never said that Bernie has no pull or doesn't matter... nor has Hillary Clinton.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
83. So he should just stop talking about his issues? I do not
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

hear him bashing her in anyway except when they are talking about issues.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
63. They'd better turn their attention to May.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:19 AM
Mar 2016

Isn't that when the FBI makes its decision on whether HRC's private server issue?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
4. He's not going to win, but he can damage Hillary if he bashes her from the left.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:44 PM
Mar 2016

The primary is effectively over, so all that matters now is how he can best help Hillary win the general election. If he stays in the race, he needs to hold off with the attacks and all that silliness regarding Goldman speeches and so on. If he focuses on issues, and attacking Trump, its fine if he stays in.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. The primary game is over. Now the part of the game where the Dems join forces to
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:49 PM
Mar 2016

keep the White House begins.

Unless he wants to carry water for Trump. We'll see.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
15. It's counterproductive. Looks like influential Dems are starting to hint to Sanders that he needs
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:02 PM
Mar 2016

to kick it back a bit. Good for them.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
75. Hillary made her case for staying in till June by mentioning the murder of RFK, no less.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:06 AM
Mar 2016

She asserted that no other candidate had ever been pressured to drop out, she suggested it was a unique, personal and perhaps sexist tactic and she repeatedly called it 'historically unprecedented'. Then 8 years later she and her campaign are doing to Bernie exactly what was done to her 'unprecedented, I don't know why they are doing this I will not speculate...RFK in a pool of blood!!!!! June!!!!!"

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
18. And until Hillary wins at the convention, I will support Bernie.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:18 PM
Mar 2016

And should Hillary win at the convention and then lose at the GE, BOO HOO HOO,
you stoopid friggin' DLC PARTY LEADERS! Thanks for the Big Nothing!

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
90. Sounds like you're already ginning up
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:55 PM
Mar 2016

the "blame Sanders supporters" argument. You must be confident enough that she'll win the nomination, but not quite so much that she could beat Trump.

Quit blaming everyone else for Clinton's faults already.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
5. He can stay in as far as I'm concerned...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:45 PM
Mar 2016

It's the fan base followers he attracts that have been so destructive and full of HATE for actve, Democratic Leaders of my Democratic Party....that group will ultimately extinguish the Bern.....

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
20. Consider the possibility that it's the corporate state that Bernie supporters are against.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:32 PM
Mar 2016

With the "Democratic" leaders like DWS supporting the payday loan sharks, we are overdue for a long look in the mirror.

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
10. She still has to fight the Koch brothers this fall
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:49 PM
Mar 2016

And that takes money. Money that is being spent running against Sanders (who would never win the GE, BTW).

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
19. Clintons have a ton of personal money. Probably more than Trump. Let's not worry
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:18 PM
Mar 2016

about HRC running out of money. The speeches that she gives now for "peanuts", she will give updated ones after being president (?) for over $1M a pop. Easily get 10-to-1 return.

hereforthevoting

(241 posts)
27. Koch brothers propped up Rubio, not Trump
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:33 AM
Mar 2016

And she probably wouldn't stop a lot of what they want to see in the USA.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
39. Bernie's numbers are way better in a general election
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:26 AM
Mar 2016

Most polling has him kicking Drumpf's butt in a general election. Heck, he beats every republican candidate running by a wider margin than Hill does. I had always contended that the primary election would be harder for him to run with the general being easier (the exact opposite of Hill in that regard).

Ultimately money won't guarantee you an election; Energy and enthusiasm will, and one of the candidates has a lot more than the other.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
62. I don't think so, she'll be OUT, being a grandmother in the GE,
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

Or maybe she'll want to do some campaigning for Bernie.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
81. Koch Bros gave Clintons millions to start the DLC.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

I'm thinking they won't mind another DLClinton presidency.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
12. He should stay in as long as he wants
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe Hillary will have a stroke, who the heck knows what's going to happen in the next couple of months.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
42. No cardiac arrest, more like federal arrest.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:39 AM
Mar 2016

Having a Clinton behind bars? Sweet!

The more I learn about the server issue, the more disgusted I am.
Sydney Blumenthal? That POS?

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
49. Suddenly, you believe everything you read
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:16 AM
Mar 2016

How's Dick Cheney doing in prison?

I mean, at least some underling went down for murdering hundreds of thousands based on known lies, right?

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
52. Just for noting that one should question their sources?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:22 AM
Mar 2016

Huh. OK. Yeah, you got me. Hands up, don't shoot.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
68. Speaking of sophistication . . .you think the server thing is about Benghazi???? WOW!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:21 AM
Mar 2016

Better go do some reading instead of being so knee-jerk

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
73. never mentioned Good Ole Ben
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:31 AM
Mar 2016

Instead, I have been reading quite respectable journals which publish scholarly texts. My take is that she is in deep shit. Deservedly so.

Go ahead. Ignore it. Ignore the fact that 52% of america neither likes nor trusts your hero. See what your blinders-on approach does in November. It will be your fault, and the fault of other clinton worshippers.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
64. Better rethink that one
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:19 AM
Mar 2016

The more I lean about the server issue, the happier I get.
Hello indictment!!!!

dubyadiprecession

(5,697 posts)
17. Stay in the race bernie. Hillary doesn't care at this point...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:11 PM
Mar 2016

She might ask bernie to be her running mate.

 

Bern2WinUSA

(44 posts)
22. Amazing Post!!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:00 AM
Mar 2016

Make no mistake they are only calling for Bernie to drop out Because they know he can win!!!
Bernie is in it to win it!!!!! Bring on the Convention!!!!!
Feel the Bern!!!!

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
23. As it becomes evident he can't make up the delegate deficit
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:11 AM
Mar 2016

He should drop the attacks on Hillary if he thinks she is 1000X better than any republican and spend his time attacking the GOP.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
25. Apparently they think they can counter his negative attacks which are not winning him voters
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:26 AM
Mar 2016

and losing him respect can be countered with their little signature banner stating that Bernie isn't what he's acting like!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
70. Well, aren't you just precious!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:23 AM
Mar 2016

Are you invited to the tea party with Cinderella in the Fairy Castle?

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
24. I don't want him to drop out, I want him to stop being a jerk and using RW smears in
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:24 AM
Mar 2016

acts of desperation that diminish him and carry RW water. Go back to arguing the actual issues, back when people still weren't going to vote for him, but respected him and the principles he's tossed over the side in the past months.

You BS fans are great comedians, it's almost like you believe all the things you pretend we say, when it's literally stuff you made up.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
30. Yeah, but the guy who gave him that advice got a whole lot more money when BS
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:53 AM
Mar 2016

went negative. They don't actually care about progressives and Dems, they're getting money from independents and shady foreign sources. Tad's raking it in, and they're spending like crazy too. Not getting much out of it, but then they don't need it for the GE so they're free to do so.

Also, have you noticed just how terrible the advice Bernie is getting lately? Jane's little Arpaio gaffe, Bernie stomping out, the stuff that keeps coming out of BS's mouth about minorities... it's unending. If you've lost that many campaigns, why would anyone hire you? And when you have the background you do (dictators/humanr rights abusers/Goldman Sachs CEO's and Monsanto just to name few) in your portfolio, how dumb are you to keep trying to damn your competition by the people she associates with?

Surely there is someone to look at malpractice at this level?

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
37. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to self delete. Bernie has been using right wing smears to
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:20 AM
Mar 2016

attack her integrity, to accuse her of stealing votes and most recently has been sliming Bill with RW "edited" video to claim that Obama was being attacked.

That you are not paying attention to what's going on, doesn't mean that you have the right to demand that I silence myself because the swarm cannot do so any longer.

RW smears are pretty much the only arguments left here, and ones a desperate and gasping campaign and candidate are clinging to. You cannot silence the truth, no matter how little you like it.

That indictment nonsense as well is RW in origin.

Response to Logical (Reply #38)

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
51. Bless your heart, you actually believe that, don't you? You guys are hilarious!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:21 AM
Mar 2016

Not only are many of you hysterically posting in the very threads that reference these things, you still feel the need to post such blatantly false things to attack people telling you truths you simply cannot handle.

Another lazy uninformed BSer. I guess we know WHY you refuse to do your homework, you just can't handle the truth! Aren't you just special!

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
45. They consider any criticism of her a RW smear...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:48 AM
Mar 2016

...and will attribute things to him that don't come from his campaign (like the Bill Clinton video). It's not worth asking for details because they don't have any.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
31. Or, she has better policies, and better track record and most people are not dumb
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:55 AM
Mar 2016

enough to swallow RW semars whole cloth with zero attempt at critical thought?

Blaming your candidate's failures with voters on such a silly, facile line is what's stupid. She's the better candidate, everyone knows it. They might like the pie-in-the-sky rhetoric Bernie's selling, but they know who they're voting for and why.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
91. You can forget about all of that.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 03:15 PM
Mar 2016

The issues have been discussed ad nauseum. She can't even deal with BLM without pissing people off. She's an incendiary idiot who's going to end up pissing off the entire planet. She'll probably end up killing more people than Bush.

Is Bell Hooks right wing, incidentally?

Also, what's a semar?

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
29. I mean its not like Hillary pulled out before the convention in 08.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:47 AM
Mar 2016

She fought hard until the convention.
It pisses me off that they don't feel Bernie deserves the same right.
It makes me not want to vote for her.
I will though.
I will hold my nose and do it with a frown.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
57. Well, actually she conceded to Obama on June 7, 2008
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:00 AM
Mar 2016

IAC, that's at least how long Bernie should stay in.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
33. Because he spends his time bashing our candidate and party that will hurt in GE. Not a tough concept
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:14 AM
Mar 2016
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
77. Hillary 2008, explaining why she will stay in till June and claiming it is wrong to call for her to
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:10 AM
Mar 2016

drop out:



We all know some see Bernie as 'different' and not allowed the same things other candidates are allowed.....
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. For the same reason you're worried about singular* posters with little to no influence
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:20 AM
Mar 2016

"Why worry about a socialist who no one likes and has no good idea..."

For the same reason you're concerned about the sentiment** of singular* posters with little to no influence who want Sanders to drop out?







(*Singular: being the only one of its kind; distinctive; unique: a singular example.)

(**Sentiment: an attitude toward something; regard; opinion. 2. a mental feeling; emotion: a sentiment of pity.)

Tarc

(10,475 posts)
40. I'll take False Dilemma for $200, Alex
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:28 AM
Mar 2016

The calls for Sanders to drop out are not for personal or policy failings, but rather for the simple fact that the math is against him.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
46. He ISN'T terrible, he DOES have influence and he should drop out.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:57 AM
Mar 2016

He only joined the Democratic Party to take advantage of its connections. The country is more important than one man and he should help rally us around our likely nominee. I understand if he wants to stay in a little longer but if he wants to work with the Democratic Party in order to have more influence, he should stop fighting it and start building the coalitions he should have had from the start.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
71. You seem to be clueless . . . .
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:27 AM
Mar 2016

Did you know he caucused with the Democrats for all his decades in congress? And they appreciated him so much that they put him on committees and even made him chairman of some. YOU have done far less for the Democratic party than he has. And yet, for some reason, you think you have some standing to dis him.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
79. I HAVE done less than Sanders. Clinton has done more.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:20 AM
Mar 2016

Trash-talking a political party then joining it at the last minute is not the way to build long-lasting coalitions. It's the difference between telling someone he's a fool and trying to show him he can be better. Calling him a fool is just going to be ignored.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
54. His campaign feeds the Political-Industrial Complex to no good purpose.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:26 AM
Mar 2016

Tad Devine alone was paid $810,000.00 for March.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
74. I want him to stay in and keep the progressive movement growing.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:42 AM
Mar 2016

And, keep shining the lights on how corrupt the political system has become.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
85. Exactly. And all these Hillary supporters who are so afraid of
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

him staying should understand that in the past almost no candidate has gone to the Convention unless they were incumbent.

I started watching Conventions in the 50s and having several candidates get to the Convention does not hurt anyone. What hurts is when one candidate tries to pressure another one out - and what that does is turn the other candidates supporters against them

Think Humphrey in 1968. It was very clear that the establishment pushed him in and then wondered why people did not vote. It was never because Humphrey was not a good man - it was because the establishment took the decision out of the hands of the people.

I will not work this time either.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
86. My first presidential vote was in '68. I voted 3rd Party.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:42 PM
Mar 2016

The establishment forced Humphrey on us. We ended up with Nixon.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
80. If they were so convinced Hillary has it in the bag, why are they in such bad moods?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:23 AM
Mar 2016

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
88. I would like him to drop out because he is wasting, time, effort, delaying unity and wasting money
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

IMHO.

Otoh, it's his prerogative to do all of those things.

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