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RandySF

(57,581 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:47 PM Mar 2016

Lena Dunham on smears from Bernie fans: “I’m going to turn into a shaking ogre woman”

When you think of all the horrible things that have been said to and about Lena Dunham, you’d have to wonder if she’d be hard-pressed to pick the sources of some of the really outstanding stuff. This after all is a woman who’s been called am incestuous sex abuser for memoir revelations like bribing her sister for kisses when they were children. A woman who, in her own estimation, has routinely been described as “fat and hideous.” One whose veiled description of a man she says sexually assaulted her in college led conservative sites to call her a “rape hoaxer.” So who was she talking about this weekend, when she mentioned a group that has been giving very very special grief of late? “Other members of the Democratic Party.” Oh, it Berns. It Berns.

I swear to God I don’t know how we’re all going to make it to November. This terrifying fiasco of an election year would be bad enough if the only thing we had to worry about was the Orange One. But the way that those of us who call ourselves liberal have become caught up in the ugly Hillary v. Bernie race is just exhausting. At least there’s some consolation in knowing that apparently everybody else is in the crosshairs too. Variety reports that at a weekend Clinton campaign event in Hollywood, the “Girls” creator and star said decisively that “I have received more hostility for voting for a qualified female candidate than I have ever received anywhere from the American right wing.” That’s quite a feat, considering the National Review has accused her of “building an ever-thicker cocoon of fantasy, prescription drugs, and weaponized celebrity, [and] manipulating reality to her own specifications,” and Truth Revolt has called her a child molester.

Dunham, who appeared at the event with Chelsea Clinton and actress America Ferrera, went on to describe how on Instagram, a Sanders fan who “obviously had no avatar” commented to her recently that Bernie Sanders had done more for feminism than Hillary Clinton ever had — an observation that led Dunham to lose her “freaking mind.” She went on to say that “The fact that other members of the Democratic Party have spoken to me like I was an ill informed child for voting for someone who represents everything I think this country should be is outrageous…. The idea that you’re gonna tell me that the woman who stepped into the White House when I was 6 years old and made me think it was possible to live the life I wanted and say the things I believed has somehow not done enough for women is so offensive to the core of my being.” She concluded, “I’m going to stop talking now because I’m going to turn into a shaking ogre woman.”

In recent months, the phenomenon of Bernie Bros has become a sore spot in a campaign year of unlimited festering wounds. First, there came the identification of the species — described last fall in the Atlantic with the explanation that “The Berniebro is not every Bernie Sanders supporter. Sanders’s support skews young, but not particularly male. The Berniebro is male, though. Very male.” Then there came the stories of that particular strain Bernie fans — who Elon James White says, “harass and try to take away the credibility from the people who question Mr. Sanders.” Mashable likewise reported on the growing “sexist mob” of Sanders supporters. Then of course came the Bernie Bros deniers, like the Huffington Post piece announcing they were a myth created by “angry white people supporting Hillary”or the Glenn Greenwald story calling the term “an all-purpose, handy pro-Clinton smear.”

Last month, Sanders told his more troll-centric fans that “We don’t want that crap” and that “Anybody who is supporting me that is doing the sexist things — we don’t want them.” And while the responses Dunham’s received from Sanders fans sound more like everyday mansplaining than full-on “crap,” they do speak to something Jessica Grose talked about earlier this year in Dunham’s Lenny Letter — the infuriating assumption that women who support Hillary are somehow doing so under orders from their confused little lady reproductive systems. And it’s one thing when your ostensible idealogical opponents are condescending to you like it, it’s quite another when you’re hearing it from the other members of your own political party.


http://www.salon.com/2016/03/21/lena_dunhams_biggest_haters_are_bernie_fans_im_going_to_turn_into_a_shaking_ogre_woman_over_smears_from_fellow_dems/

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Lena Dunham on smears from Bernie fans: “I’m going to turn into a shaking ogre woman” (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #1
I guess now "red bait" just means anything you disagree with. DanTex Mar 2016 #2
Not a fan. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #3
I've heard the name but couldn't pick her out of a line-up if my life depended on it. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #4
Not quite - she isn't a very good person in my view. Juicy_Bellows Mar 2016 #6
Here, let me help you out there Tarc Mar 2016 #8
"shaking ogre woman"? n/t panader0 Mar 2016 #5
Literary reference? A quick search came up with Hopi Ogre Woman (Soyok Wuhti). SMC22307 Mar 2016 #10
That's her! The shaking ogre woman. panader0 Mar 2016 #11
Is it? SMC22307 Mar 2016 #14
No wonder I could not place her nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #7
She's really tedious. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2016 #9
Who is Lena Dumham and why should we give a fuck? ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #12
Because she is on our side! scscholar Mar 2016 #13

Response to RandySF (Original post)

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. I guess now "red bait" just means anything you disagree with.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:59 PM
Mar 2016

And also "Ferrera" means "Lena Dunham".

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
4. I've heard the name but couldn't pick her out of a line-up if my life depended on it.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:07 PM
Mar 2016

Nor could I tell you WHY I've heard her name. Is she a singer?

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
6. Not quite - she isn't a very good person in my view.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

Her own words about her growing up with her sister were enough for me to tune her out forever.

However, I do not condone people doing anything more than giving her the business - threats and other shit is uncalled for.

SMC22307

(8,088 posts)
10. Literary reference? A quick search came up with Hopi Ogre Woman (Soyok Wuhti).
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:20 PM
Mar 2016

Native American Hopi Carved Ogre Woman Disciplinarian Katsina Doll

I dunno.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. No wonder I could not place her
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

Lena Dunham
Actress · lenadunham.com
Lena Dunham is an American actress, writer, producer, and director. She is best known as the creator, writer and star of the HBO series Girls, for which she has received numerous Emmy award nominations and two Golden Globe awards. Wikipedia
Born: May 13, 1986 (age 29), New York City, NY
Partner: Jack Antonoff (2012–)
Siblings: Grace Dunham
Books: Not That Kind of Girl: A Young Woman Tells You What She's Learned
Parents: Laurie Simmons, Carroll Dunham

I had to google this... I really cannot or could not care less about entertainers, truly

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