They certainly chose a striking part of that quote to edit.

interestingly cut.

BSers have been spreading all night! Oh noes!

Should I alert you for willful ignorance?

your prerogative.

Is Rove in cahoots with CNN?

interesting edit. When CNN picks up a viral video and doesn't do a check to see where it's coming from, I expect them to correct their mistakes, and I'm actually smart enough to check to see where any link posted on DU these days is actually coming from.

You might want to do your homework, the MSM has and they corrected the nonsense, you seem to prefer the Rovian version, posted on youtube, and not linked to CNN.

Please stop with this nonsense, you're being ratfcked.

It is a clip of Bill Clinton's speech, unedited, with the words coming out of his mouth.

You have no clue what you are talking about but losing your shit over nonetheless and embarrassing yourself.

Actually, it's because I'm well aware of what I'm talking about that I'm able to calmly call out all the hysterical viral nonsense that's being posted here. I'm not the one embarrassing myself, but please, proceed with pushing the RW smears, and telling yourself that the entire MSM is against you and plotting your downfall. THAT's not losing one's shit at all, and if that doesn't embarrass, you well ... you're very amusing, in both your projection and your utter lack of self awareness.

The ignorance and hysteria is amusing, but kind of sad as well. I hope you will all be okay, when all that fiction you read and pasted and clipped for each other proves to be a bunch of poppycock.

We'll just be over here, enjoying the show and wondering just how far you'll take it.

I mean did you even know that the CNN link has the video that your friend cut down even further? Yikes.

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might I suggest that you need a round of hooked on phonics, and a very patient remedial reading teacher?

I'll type it slower. C - N - N.

was the source, and somehow your link has been edited.

How slowly must I type for you to figure out that you don't seem to be following what's going on here, and why the OP is pretty much dishonest?

I'm sorry you're having such a hard time keeping your stories straight and figuring out what's going on. Try reading for comprehension and not typing for poorly played snark, you might be less prone to embarrassing yourself if you had the slightest clue what's being said and what little you understand.

Or you can dig your heels in and try once more to be unpleasant, it's amusing to watch you keep failing and flailing and not quite realizing how you keep failing here.

Oh, that's right. You don't have one.

You can't argue the point being made - that CNN edited a quote - so you throw pointless garbage out as subterfuge.

Nice try.

which I stated wasn't exactly honest, since creative editing is how this viral idiocy has spread. Oh right, you can't figure out the point, so you just type silly snarky things that don't reflect very well on your claims that you have any understanding of what's going on here.

You just admitted that your video was created by your buddy, not from CNN, you can't prove provenance or what's been cut and pasted, so once again, manipulated video, that doesn't match the vile smears you're trying to promote.

My point was that CNN edited the quote after recognizing that the original video was edited to leave certain things out, apparently you hare having trouble following, so instead of trying to figure out what's being said, you went right to abusive ad hominems, snark and pointless idiocy.

Yours was a pretty sad try. Still pretty amusing, it's hilarious how you just don't seem to get how you keep undermining yourself and still don't seem to have understood what was being said, I guess you're super vested in your paranoid garbage about how you're persecuted! I mean, they're EDITING their transcripts based on the facts going around about the edited video that fooled so many BSers!


Please proceed, you seem to just be winding up with the name calling, the foulness and the snark, the fact that you still don't get how or why it's just not working for you is hilarious.



Gee, now whatever are you going to do, you still don't know what's going on and you're just so angry!!!

You are railing against the labeling of the video, not the content and certainly not the point of the OP.

FACT: Bill Clinton said what he said and CNN edited the quote eliminating the part about deregulation being the cause of the crash.

youtube being passed around by BSers, which alleges that Bill said something, that he clearly did not, trying to imply that he was somehow disrespecting Obama.

The MSM is correcting the propaganda, since if you watch the actual video, it's not that hard to figure out that he wasn't doing what he was accused of. Per the usual.

be on record biting the hand that feeds them.

..... and that America Rising, Briebart, the Blaze, the Weekly Standard, the Daily Caller .....one very rightwing nut job) published this story and the video clip of questionable context and it was solely picked up the the most rightwing sites.... conservative (but mainstream) outlets did not run with this ....? Does it give you pause about context ans authenticity?

The MSM has significant problems, but I will not turn to the likes of America Rising, Briebart, the Blaze, the Weekly Standard, the Daily Caller ..... for accuracy and truth in reporting.

I never put faith in anything that comes solely from extreme rightwing sources. It gives me great pause that conservative sources (vs extreme right wing) did not pick up on this.

I don't care if it fits my agenda or not .... I would really like to see a verified video with context and authentication (no edits and attribution) .... i find it very alarming that DU has begun putting faith in these sources.


I am stating that without context and authentication the few seconds of video has no value.

@ about :35

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/21/politics/bill-clinton-hillary-obama-legacy/

CNN's reporting of what Bill Clinton said, however, eliminated this phrase: "... and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash ..." , again just as I outlined in my OP.

..... America Rising, Briebart, the Blaze, the Weekly Standard, the Daily Caller ....

It doesn't strike you odd that these sources are being lauded as the accurate and true sources of reporting?

I don't give a sh*t about Bill Clinton and did not vote for Hillary .... but always jump into threads where the sources of the far right are given much more credence that other mainstream sources.

in this case the OP asserts that the MSM is editing / whitewashing tc and that the non-mainstream right wing sources are the accurate ones.

there was a time on DU where America Rising, Briebart, the Blaze, the Weekly Standard, the Daily Caller .... were viewed as jokes

Anybody that can read can see that.

CNN is the source. Got it? The source and the problem; they edited a quote.

There is nothing in my OP nor in my links that is anywhere in the ballpark of a rightwing source, your misguided kneejerk reaction notwithstanding.

They were characterizing it as a WTF moment. I'll take a look at the video you provided. Thanks for the link.

Its making me crazy .... I don't even care about the particular stories. Its just the sudden trusting of the Blaze, the Daily Caller ... etc.

It has just become surreal to see the right wing version being lauded ... the MSM has major issues, but I would never put my faith in the far right sources.


The links to the local story (and their video) are where I would put my money as most accurate.

An inarticulate, run on sentence that tied the awful legacy of trickle down to the past 15 years. Hillary's aide is explaing that the legacy of the last 8 years is obstruction and the legacy of the 7 years prior is unregulated trickle down. Bill's off his game. I've been thinking for a while that he's more of a liability now than in 2008. He's lost a lot of credibility and charisma.

...but, without doubt Bill is not nearly as facile (or glib) as he once was. I agree that he is probably a liability on the stump ... and at very best a net neutral.


It is legitimate to point fingers back to the Clinton administration's policies as part and parcel of the decline

Thanks for you link

Here link that contains the entire speech (click on the icons it is in three parts in this article)


http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/clinton-touts-hillarys-leadership-during-spokane-campaign-stop/38624896

CNN attributes their clip (at your link) to kxly


Its pretty clear that this is simply the same speech Bill Clinton has been giving over and over for Hillary Clinton ... without the rightwingers running with their interpretation .... no one would have noticed this speech and one does not come away with the rightwing "spin" on this ..... i also did NOT come away believing Bill Clinton that Hillary will "fix" the gridlock in Washington.

Now that we've dispensed with questioning the authenticity of the quote, my point is that in subsequent reporting CNN did some editing and eliminated the phrase about deregulation causing the crash.

I'm going back to bed.

Better luck in your crusade hunting down RW sources.

In am on a crusade to fight any and all right wing sources .... CNN sadly is newstainment

.... while the extreme rightwing sites got it right

Its not editing its context in this case. I once said that I was musing abut raiding the republican primary and voting for Trump just to really eff with the repuke establishment (I couldn't vote for a racist Nazi like idiot even to mess with them).

I could be quoted stating that I was thinking about voting for Trump ... the quotes would be accurate ... but taken out of context it would give the opposite impression of the entirety of what I really said.


watching the entire video ... what I come away with is that Clinton is claiming that Hillary C can work with the obstruction and get past it ... in my mind that is the story and there are plenty of reputable sources that can analyzed that

Context has nothing to do with this. It was the purposeful elimination of a direct quote.

Can't wait to hear Hillary's outrage. Remember the huff she made during a debate about Bernie blurring Bill Press's book "Buyer's Remorse"?

"Hillary Clinton accused Bernie Sanders of writing “a foreword for a book that basically argues voters should have buyer’s remorse when it comes to President Obama’s leadership and legacy.”

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/the-b...b_9237814.html

Note, Hillary called the blurb a forward! Lol

Republicans have obstructed his economic initiatives and we're still operating in a trickle down environment. This is how pathetic the Sanders folks have gotten. Even when a Clinton essentially agrees with Sanders, his supporters still attack. Geez.

You are arguing a point I'm not making and ignoring the one I am.

Up is down and left is right in Camp Sanders this morning...

Their is nothing out of context in Clinton's words. They are exactly what he said. The OP was pointing out that CNN edited a phrase out of exactly what Clinton said. ALL TRUE.

I also posted the one directly from CNN's website.

CNN edited the quote eliminating the part where he said deregulation was the cause of the crash.

I looked at the longer CNN video, and it seems the clip jibes with that. Editing, in the context I think some people are referring to, would mean splicing together clips, while leaving the pieces in between out. The clip you posted doesn't do that, correct?

The quote I posted in the OP is verbatim.

I dropped cable last year.and read and listen (online) to as much independent news and commentary as I can find.

The MSM is insufferable particularly during election season.

...you falsely claim that CNN is "editing" his comments? That's a laugher.

What he was referring to, if interpreted objectively, is that the "legacy" is that of the entire country over the last eight years and the seven years before that, most of which was dominated by republican majorities in Congress.

Did he say "Obama's legacy"? No.


*an excerpt that apparently doesn't even have an audio track!

The words of President Clinton in the article were edited to leave out "and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash". Those words were in the middle of a paragraph, not at the end or the beginning. To leave them out is to edit them out.

When quoting snips it's customary to use ellipses. CNN chose not to do that, or forgot to do that. But normally ellipses aren't used to leave out such a short section as "and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash".

http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/ellipses.html

The OP has the link to the CNN article. Listen to the embedded video there, if you don't trust the video in the OP. http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/21/politics/bill-clinton-hillary-obama-legacy/index.html

But if you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we've finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that when we were practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash, then you should vote for her because she's the only person who basically has good ideas, will tell you how she's going to pay for them, can be commander-in-chief and is a proven changemaker with Republicans and Democrats and independents alike.

Just like you mentioned before, CNN, their clip, their transcript.

Or are you block quoting from what you wrote previously?

I made my above post because it just struck me as amazing when I saw it. You had to wade through a lot of deflection and non sequiturs, I thought you'd be amused at how reality actually applies in other parts of the internet.