Of course Bernie tweeted it, he has nothing else.

.... don't care where s*** like this comes from. It's only important that the seed is planted, and the doubt is harvested.

that matter. It's rather disturbing, just how easily they will fall for things, and how easily they believe the whole "lame stream media" nonsense and have made it their own!

that they are pushing. We only have to look at the all of the RW sources that have been posted the last half a year (gets worse each day as you know).

....it's a combination of frustration and desperation. Their backs are against the wall, and they know it. Makes you do silly and embarrassing things.

I could smell the desperation right through the screen. You would think they'd be embarrassed at being suckered in but they just ignore it and double down. Sad really.

CNN deliberately edited Bill's comment about deregulation causing the crash. What is posted below is from CNN - their clip, their transcription of what Bill Clinton said. This is, in fact, not a rightwing source. It's all CNN, posted on their website. I would suggest people review it before going off half-cocked.

It's really pathetic. It doesn't surprise me, though. The republicans have been helping Sanders by attacking Clinton, because they are terrified of meeting her in the GE, while they have tons of mud they haven't slung at Sanders just waiting. Of course, the Sanders supporters have misunderstood that as thinking the republicans actually like Sanders. It's like they haven't been awake for the last 26 years - or maybe they weren't old enough to see the Republicans try to tear down all Democrats with all their might in the last three administrations.

But I'm not holding my breath.

From ol' Bill's loose bragging lips--"We can transport you back to the 90's. We can do what Obama couldn't." A very bad campaign tactic. Obviously NO solidarity with Obama left at this point if he could say it this way. He did say "awful legacy of the last 8 years, and 7 years before that"

This is the clear message--no matter how they want to spin it after the fact.

the Clinton supporters, if Bernie said that they would be jumping off cliffs in glee

walkin it back, walkin it back...

The implication is clearly there.

and his true believers eagerly seized onto it, uncritically. For god's sake, people, when all else fails, try thinking. If you don't, you end up looking like idiots.

.....an ulterior motive - to find undue criticism of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and even President Obama.

.....an ulterior motive - to find undue criticism of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and even President Obama.

Even if he was talking about the past 8 years of obstruction... how the fuck is she gonna do away with it?

All of a sudden the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" is all of a sudden gonna go away?

Talk about a fantasy.

It is you folks that need to stop and think.

The evidence before us is what he said. He is not known to mince words.

His followup "clarification" is almost certainly based on the negative reaction to his comments.

btw I love that graphic. I want it as a bumper sticker.

I do, however, think it's revealing of Bill's rapidly declining physical and mental state. These are early stages, but in the depressing event of a Hillary presidency, we're going to see this play out on a very public stage. Despite being no big fan of Pander Bear, that will be sad for me to witness.

Another reason to vote against Hillary? Of course not (I don't need any more of those). Just sad...

I love how all the desperate Hillary fans are jumping to apologize for this.

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How do you keep coming up short and claiming that your own spin is "everyone?" Obviously there are points of view beyond your own, and more people hold those views than hold your views. Where does that fact fit into your cosmology?

You live in a democracy, right?

will tell ya how she's gonna be commander in chief, and is a proven change maker with both democrats and republicans alike"

Who has the legacy of not being a change maker with republicans in the past 8 years?

You can try to tell me that you don't understand that obvious point, but you can't make me believe it.

This is the guy who called Obama a waiter. He can't help putting Obama under the bus.

is acceptable to post here? Wow. It is disappointing, to say the least, that Senator Sanders would actually tweet this propaganda as well.

It's not hard to believe he would say what he did about Obama's legacy

I'm glad you told me. I would have never known you had any power over my feelings.

Impressive.

But if you take offense I do apologize

And then there is addressing the topic in a sober manner.

You keep making ego plays instead of addressing the topic. You don't have to worry about my ego. You only imagine that you have that power, sport. Sheldon has nothing to do with it.

And I'm not complaining about your tactics, I am simply pointing out the stupidity behind your poor choice to deploy them. Clearly you're not up to a real discussion but hey, you're in good company as I have yet to see much from your compatriots.

You're candidate is going to lose and unless you want more Scalito, Jr.'s you have only one place to go. You need to sober up to that reality. Or don't, because enough of us understand that and we can carry your emotional baggage.

Also your opening salvo made it clear you weren't open to having a real discussion.

I am open to a real discussion, with someone who will discuss things instead of trying to change the subject from what it is to something about me personally. I have discussions all the time with such people, but for some reason they aren't Bernie Sanders supporters here at Democratic Underground. For some reason Bernie Sanders supporters insist on making it about me, personally, as you just did.

It's a simple concept, really. Check the actual subject. If the actual subject isn't me personally, but you're interjecting me personally into it, then you are changing the actual subject. I might be able to say that in simpler language but really I don't see any benefit in ti for me. I've already humored you enough. If you can't understand that then I can't help you. You are beyond my skill set. I guess according to you that makes me a bad person.

So be it.

The sad thing is you don't even see it. And you talk about name calling lol

Why would they cite him?

Another day, more cognitive dissonance from the radical left.

Any one of the thousand misrepresentations of Bernie Sanders that Hillary and her supporters have used from the beginning, in the process obscuring much truth and acting to "swift boat" a good and decent man trying to keep all average or below average earning citizens from being rolled by the system.

Have you ever heard the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right?"

The question is not whether this amorphous group you define as "Hillary and her supporters" has integrity. You already baked your answer to that in your own cake. The question is whether you, yourself have integrity.

Well, do you?

of how unfair a characterization this is to be patently ridiculous. Bill Clinton's words were not taken that far out of context, any more than his actions in MA at the polling places were kosher. They weren't.

Let me include another video for your viewing pleasure.

But so is are Synergie, myself, and the author of the piece quoted in the opening post.

You don't have to prove to me that Hillary Clinton isn't perfect. I don't do cults of personality. Perfection isn't a rational standard. Bernie has as many negatives as Hillary, and he's not going to win anyway. So I really don't see your purpose. I'm voting Democratic. This is Democratic Underground.

Bill seems to think if Hillary is elected the Republicans will suddenly see rainbows and sunshine and be willing to work with her. Of course, he could be true. If she agrees to sign all their legislation, as Bill did, they probably will.

he will remove the tweet.

of Bernie's campaign. Anyone with common sense knows the clip was out of context/ distorted. I didn't even bother to look because the whole controversy is stupid/childish. Did any of the clowns running with this see Bill Clinton's speech at the 2012 convention? That amazing speech would be 100% incompatible with Bill Clinton now saying that Obama's legacy was awful and should be forgotten. Common sense people!

For gods' sake, Hillary has made it abundantly clear she wants to build on President Obama's legacy. is wrong with some people?

how is Hillary going to end the obstructionism, move to the right like Bill did

Because having a GOP Congress is what stalled President Obama at every turn.

Down-ballot races matter. Sitting at home on our asses during midterm elections (or any other election) is not an option.

i hope she will have the coattails

Clinton himself hasn't clarified anything - this is what he actually said (from the transcript you provided):

"But if you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that when we were practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington"

Unless we're in some Orwelian newspeak scenario you can't actually go back and rewrite a speech because you didn't like the reaction you got the first time.

I didn't think Bill Clinton was speaking about Obama. I just thought he wasn't very clear in his remarks. That happens on the campaign trail. You get tired and you make errors.

I said this in another thread where something was shown to be false that all of us should be more careful about jumping to conclusions and when we do we really should be big enough to admit it when we are wrong.