2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAriz. Democratic party to investigate after voters told they're not eligible
http://www.12news.com/mb/news/local/valley/ariz-democratic-party-to-investigate-after-voters-told-theyre-not-eligible/96906041PHOENIX - Arizona's Democratic Party said its legal counsel will make an inquiry regarding why voters who say they registered as Democrats are being listed as having no party or as independents.
Poll workers are offering those voters provisional ballots, according to the party and some voters who've contacted 12 News.
A party spokesperson says its received calls throughout the day from people who showed up to vote only to be told they were ineligible.
Uncle Joe
(58,107 posts)Thanks for the thread, G_j.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Even the appearance of shenanigans is just pure poison in democracy.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)It's ALMOST as if there is a pattern.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)And I'd like to think that would be my opinion if I were a Hillary supporter, too.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)At least, that is how I learned my civics 101.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Google is your friend.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)brush
(53,467 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)......
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Berniemagic
(21 posts)It's not on Bernie's side.
You call it criminal, then you need to dump Clinton and criticize her for her constant cheating.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)it's their fault...
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)interesting.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)that is what happened young students didn't realized it was a closed primary. Bernie should have told them at his 20,000 person rally and all.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)xloadiex
(628 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)I'm really glad the state democrats and DNC was also helping educate them, to make sure they were getting hem registered since we have TWO candidates running. And we wouldn't want any of them possibly signing up as republicans to vote for trump, given that Arizona is a red state. Information is power, right?
Then again, what was the DNCs position on early GOTV efforts this year? Suppression?
kristopher
(29,798 posts)The "primary" is open and you can register with the party you want on the "primary" day.
The "primary" isn't what's happening today.
Today is the "Presidential Preference Election" and it is a closed event. You had to have been registered with the party you intend to vote for not later than Feb. 22.
If you just check the SoS website quickly, you'll come away thinking today's voting is an open event.
Nanjeanne
(4,877 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,877 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)and I hope he doesn't all this talk of voter fraud will be forgotten by his supporters in an instant
peacebird
(14,195 posts)should totally be investigated.
jillan
(39,451 posts)with 41% in she is leading at 61%
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stranger81
(2,345 posts)Wasn't too happy voting today. After standing in line for over an hour, they tried to tell me I couldn't vote. I wasn't pleased to have to choose a party (because I don't buy into the party system), but I changed my affiliation well in time for the deadline, and I checked online after to confirm it had been updated. "Their system" said otherwise.
I got a provisional ballot, then noticed she had written my phone number incorrectly on the form. She seemed none too pleased that I caught it and corrected it. If she thinks I won't call to confirm that my vote was counted, she's dead wrong.
A man in his 70s next to me had issues, too. You could tell by his dress, mannerisms and posture that he had served in the military. I heard him say, "I have always been a registered Democrat. Listen, I just want to vote." They gave him a provisional ballot, too.
This isn't the first time I have had issues trying to vote. When I lived in Ireland, they told me I wasn't allowed to vote in the Presidential election. They finally allowed me to fax my vote, but I am none too sure it wasn't just thrown away.
These kinds of things should not be happening. If you have to cheat to win, you have already lost.
peacebird
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AzDar
(14,023 posts)even though NONE has registered R in the past...
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I hate dirty tricks, and I especially hate dirty tricks by dems against dems.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)the behavior to one person in one polling place
If it's in different places, it's not limited to one person, and there is a possibility of coordination which could involve others. If it's widespread that would mean bad actors in each location and then some number of people who coordinated/communicated the action plan.
I hope it's just one bad actor.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)I wonder how many more.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)and was told she was registered as a Republican and was not allowed to vote.
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NWCorona
(8,541 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Pass laws to
Make primary election day the same day all over the nation.
Make it a requirement to change party affiliation by no later than 3 months prior to the universal primary voting day.
Make a national GE day--preferably a Saturday.
Automatic eligibility to vote upon turning 18 years old for ALL CITIZENS starting with election 2020.
Use fingerprint technology to avoid duplicate voting...
No results reported until 8 am EST the day following the PE and GE days.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Same day primaries benefits name recognition candidates.
Party affiliation 3mo out? Screw that! I'm in an open primary state, that even allows for 14 day early voting, and same/grace period registration even the day of. We had problems with not enough ballots, but no way would I settle for a strict closed primary. How suppressive!
If anything, I'd go even further to fully open/independent ballots. Some of us live in red areas, and are forced to decide whether voting state/national seats, or local. We had some critical local elections that I opted to forgo voting on this time around, but there were centrist republicans (sometimes we have closet dems running) I would have voted for over the crazy crackpot/trumpesque republicans running locally. See our issue.
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xloadiex
(628 posts)They only win when they cheat. He doesn't appear to be a student.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,877 posts)kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)situation. She has voted Dem for decades and could not believe when she found out that her name was not listed when she checked.
senz
(11,945 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)... the peons think they should have a say in who gets nominated. Little do they know...
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)People have been voting in various capacities for a really, really long time. We pretty much have it figured out by now.
You can't have this many issues in this many states unless it's intentional. We all should think long and hard about why this is happening and who is behind it.
Tarc
(10,472 posts)Then go there demanding to vote, and mucking up the process.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)provisional ballots were offered. Voters were simply told to go home MONTHS after they had registered as Democrats. Many even had their new voter registrations with them and were told "you are still listed as Independent in the system. Nothing we can do."