this pattern.

Alternative thesis: this election fraud stuff is the product of hyper partisan imaginations

Why don't you just admit that you pretended to know what three people you never met are "sensing" and move on, or just move onm instead of continuing to flail?

with zero evidentiary support.

So I have no need to stop flailing, as I for one never started.

So is implying you know what Bernie and others sense. If you want wacky, Carnac, that might be it.

BTW, you might read up some time on "conspiracy theory" and people who throw that term around lightly.

unless you can back it up. It's akin, imo, to how Senator refers to the transcripts of Secretary Clinton's Goldman Sachs speeches. Can any of us prove she said anything she'd now find embarrassing? Is any respected journalist suggesting they wouldn't be, to one degree or another?

Things can be curious, suggestive, worth looking into, and even just plain suspicious seeming. When it comes to elections, we know we need to pay attention to such things.

Suppressing the vote just has an out and out terribly real history in our country.

no question, but I do appreciate it and agree with some of it.

We don't know, but there are many plausible scenarios besides "nothing to see here" and "oh my god, call the FBI!".

Could be anything, I'm not a mind reader.

Like all the outrage over Bill Clinton at polling places. Not one peep out of Bernie who undoubtedly would be raising hell if something was actually wrong.

Some of Bernie's fans love to stir the pot. Especially in states where Hillary is expected to do well.

but neither of those things have anything to do with pretending to know what other people are sensing.

Alleging voter fraud or obstructing access at polls by Bill Clinton?

I guess I missed that. Thanks.

My reply listed four states. You said there had not been one peep. I said that was false. It was.
I also said the times for other peeps has not expired. It hasn't.

Which statement that I actually did make do you think is false?

The people are getting provisional ballots to see if indeed they did register before feb deadline .
People need to pay attention to their state rule
I read a lot of indies showing up at a closed primary.

Even just the subject line of the OP mentions more than that.

Being denied as well. Sounds like the same bull crap we have heard about in several other states.

I don't think it's a conspiracy but it is bad mismanagement. They cut polling places by 2/3.

Being given provisional ballots. The problem is that there are only 60 polling sites down from 200. The lines are oytrageous.

Several people I know had trouble due to being registered as Republicans or not found at ALL. Polling places being moved/closed seemingly w/o notice...

on the registration papers at the poll.

..either a Bush or a Clinton is worried they might lose?

I think not.

Whether it is by the GOP or the Democratic party, election fruad is much more pervasive than most think. Everyone focuses on voter fraud, which is very rare and not election fraud perpetrated by elected and party officials. It is a nothing to see here folks kind of situation that REALLY needs to be fully investigated.

Every district in every county in every state should be prepared, there is no excuse for 'glitches' or a too large a showing. It is not like the county/party administers didn't have enough time to prepare. Any of those 'mistakes' or 'glitches' should be highly suspect. I have no problem with my preferred candidate losing legitimately, but when there is even a hint of election fraud that is unconscionable and needs to be investigated.

--yet most people aren't concerned. (Especially if their candidate comes out ahead).

But, personally, I would be concerned even if my candidate won by election fraud. It is a very serious crime that cannot be allowed because of it resulted in a preferred outcome.

we have an antiquated, discriminatory and insecure election "system" that is allowing for all sorts of fraud and corruption. The political parties don't want voters to know how bad it is.

At least more of these cases are coming to light.

when you have millions of records in each state, there's going to be the occasional mixup between the person filing and the bureaucracy processing the filings. people move, and forget to update their address, or the state's records system has an error manually entered.

that's why provisional ballots exist.

I've heard voters for candidates of all stripes complaining in elections over the years.

Frankly, I think we should do it like Australia, make voting mandatory and they'd have to have everyone registered.

be provided with all necessary acomodations to vote.

in states where Sanders won.

And the source is some website called usuncut.com

I'd like to see corroboration from some site I've actually heard of.

Why is that?

Provisional ballots are almost never counted. Forcing voters to use one is almost certainly invalidating their vote.

This is just another ploy of voter suppression.

This is insane. We need uniform election procedures for every single state.

and most of those are thrown out because voters have been taken off the voters roll. In primaries,the number one reason is voters belonging to the wrong political party trying to vote in a closed election of a party they aren't registered to vote in. Provisional ballots that are proven to be legitimate are always counted.

Putting elections in federal hands would require a constitutional amendment, which would have to be ratified by the states. How likely do you think that would be? Reality often bites.

the Supreme court. The only national election is for President, and there are federal laws regulating those for the General Election. There are also laws regarding voting rights. However all other elections are state issues, including congressional elections. It's a constitutional issue.

Citizens of each state must insist on it. Just as I said. Elections are a state function. Many states do very well with elections. Minnesota is a good example. So is California. Other states don't do as well. People in those states need to insist that they do better.

Elections in this country are run by the individual states. How's your state doing?

California has a pretty good track record running elections.

I'd like to see states adopt Oregon's mail-in voting system. It's cheaper and increases participation. Their system of checks and balances has been for the most part secure. So far it seems a win-win.

Minnesota's not even close to that, though. CA might do it before too long, though. I lived in CA most of my life, and it has a very good election system. MN, too. Other states are mixed, and I don't really know most of their reputations.I see it as a problem, too, but there's no solution except state by state change.

That's one state's rights issues that will be almost impossible to change. It's up to the people in each state to demand change. Nothing else will work.

surprised me.

registered at the same time and place. Had to demand a provisional ballot - was not offered one and they were almost taken aback - like it had never happened before. I wonder if they really handled it properly. I stressed the fact that my boyfriend was registered successfully and I wasn't.

... is better than nothing.

Your anecdotal story should make us all check on our voting status before it's too late. Thanks for that.

Out the information. If independents didn't know what to do, they have themselves to blame. There is no conspiracy. Get outraged about why the 2 campaigns didn't make sure everyone knew the rules before the deadline!!!

They did that initially by putting off the few scheduled debates until after the summer, yielding coverage to GOP candidates and their debates almost exclusively for months on end. But there was also no real official national DNC voter registration drive of any magnitude. That is their responsibility. I agree the candidates should have made the effort to take up the slack; Candidate Obama was on top of that in 2008. Still, stupid shit like not having enough ballots is cropping up in state after state. That's unacceptable.

I miss the days when Democrats cared about everyone having their vote counted. I guess that assumes you are one though and I hate to assume.

Tweets and blogs ain't proof.

I bet you were a hoot in 2000 and 2004.

Yep, reject them out of hand. Cool.

Everybody knows that.

Its not some big conspiracy.

Don't know the rules

Hilarious

Progressives have never lost an election ever, doncha know?

They pulled this crap a few years ago here in Omaha.

http://www.thereader.com/post/polling_place_changes_hit_older_omaha_harder

They should have checked their status before voting.

They only have 60 polling places for the entire state.

Some people have been in lines for over 3 hours.

They have not updated their system.

People are being given provisional ballets.

People are using their phones to document what is going on.

and changed registration in plenty of time, yet STILL are forced to use PB due to the rolls not being 'updated'... Nope, nothing to see here...


Not to mention polling places changed/closed... malfunctioning handheld units @ check-in, etc.

What the bloody hell?

http://www.kvoa.com/story/31542043/voter-help-line-unstaffed-after-building-evacuated?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_News_4_Tucson_-_KVOA

Never assume your vote is going to count, or be counted. Never assume that you are just going to show up at the polls and be able to vote.

I recommend registering for early voting. Fill out your ballot, and send it in the day you get it. Then call the county clerks office and verify that they have received your ballot.

If you cannot vote early, or prefer going to the polls, always call your county clerk's office 45 days before an election and ensure you are registered to vote, eligible to vote in the upcoming election, and verify that you are registered as a member of the party of your choice. If someone verifies your info, write down their name and the date and time you called.

In Arizona, before the 2012 election, I looked up my voter registration on the internet, and, surprise! Nothing. I called the county clerks office and harassed them until the problem was straightened out. If people are vigilant about being able to vote, and about their vote being counted, it will make it far more difficult for the establishment to cheat us out of our votes.

That would give the voters enough time to register under the proper party.

If AZ has to pay double just to run a primary, then that may be incentive for them to get it right the next time.