2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAZ voting seems to be a big mess.
But since Clinton has all those early votes banked this could work to her advantage. Wow, this couldn't have worked out better than if they had planned it.
Once again, chaos reigns on election day.
Hmmmm.... if you reduce polling places from 200 to 60 in a county did you think you are going to improve the voting process?????
Update: On the OAN channel they were reporting in Phoenix. People were waiting 3 HOURS to vote, people were complaining that they had registered as Dem but told they were not on the list as a Democrat. When asked the reporter said at that location it was lots of Bernie Sanders supporters. Isn't that a surprise.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/22/live-arizona-primary-coverage-presidential-preference-election/82096726/
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)voting isn't a mess in Arizona?
basselope
(2,565 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)about similarities.(Need a headache smilie.)
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Nomination says otherwise.
basselope
(2,565 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)starting with the admission you claim, that I never made.
But you know that ... so, I'm looking forward to more childishness.
basselope
(2,565 posts)Are you really trying to deny that?
Wow. Talk about childish.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Those are just jam-packed, hundreds of thousands of votes counted.
brooklynite
(94,479 posts)that Bernie Sanders' campaign team didn't anticipate that a REPUBLICAN Secretary of State might not do a good job?
What's their contingency plan?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Simply amazing. It couldn't have worked out better than if they had planned it.
Reducing polling places from 200 to 60 in one county. Really? What a genius idea. Well if your intent is to diminish the voting I guess it is.
LonePirate
(13,412 posts)But you go ahead and keep on attributing it to Democrats.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)other than simply the majority voted for Hillary.
The manufactured hysteria is getting old.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)They only have elections stolen from them, over and over and over again, as it were.
It's actually quite remarkable.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)takes for Clinton to "win".....
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)From the same page:
WTF?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)far more republicans got stacked up than Democratic voters.
RandySF
(58,670 posts)Oceanic
(4 posts)After an hour in line I thought I could see the front of the line but very little movement. I'd estimate 5,000 people in line. No way they will get to vote. Everyone was very patient and committed, despite the snowy weather. Affluent area of Salt Lake County. Very few people of color. Every generation represented.
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bbrady42
(175 posts)That's 3x the longest I've ever had to wait, and that was the only other time I've *ever* had to wait at all here.
But it affected everyone, even repugs. I don't see how this benefits Hillary Clinton.
reddread
(6,896 posts)brooklynite
(94,479 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)dont act so vulnerable
brooklynite
(94,479 posts)Tell us, did you read that the DEMOCRATIC PARTY was to blame? Or did you just read that there were voting problems?
Did you, per chance, consider that the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State might be responsible?
reddread
(6,896 posts)and none of the leading candidates are desperate enough to cheat to win.
OK?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)I think every high school should educate juniors and seniors on how to register and how to vote.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)but certainly not surprising
reddread
(6,896 posts)conservatives have a hard time hiding in plain sight.
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)Make it part of the Civics class many high schoolers are required to take.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)so it is a sleazy way to shift blame from the establishment, which intentionally creates these disasters to protect Hillary, and to the voters. Despicable.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)When all the machinery in the county is controlled by the GOP the despises HILLARY in voters are being turned away by poll workers who have no idea who they're going to be voting for and the lines are longest in some of the areas that should traditionally support Clinton how she is to blame for this
Yes I'm sure that Hillary purposely closed all the voting locations in the heavily black South Mountain area except for one because she thought that would be to her advantage
There is no reason not to. It just makes sense all around.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)I am blaming our education system.
When I was in high school, if we were of age, we could register to vote. We also held mock voting where we could participate so that we knew what to expect when we went out to vote.
I think it was very helpful.
My children did not have this experience. But I always took them to vote with me, so that they would know how and where to vote. My older children voted by absentee ballot in their freshman years in college.
I am for educating young voters. I'm shocked you find fault with that.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)That's just not understanding how elections work.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)If that is your argument I think you are very wrong.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)that their states may have deadlines for changing party affiliation or registration dates?
We absolutely need more education on voting, I don't understand why anyone would deny that.
If I understand correctly, Arizona is providing provisional ballots to those who are having issues.
This situation will indeed be looked into, and if Arizona has been neglectful in updating their registration ballots there will be consequences. We don't know all of the facts yet.
No Democrat wants to see suppression of votes. That's all the more reason to make sure that everyone knows how, and where to vote.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)if a state makes voting so difficult that a person needs to take classes to learn how to vote then that is not a problem with the voters, that is a problem with the system. There is absolutely no reason that voting needs to be complicated and when it becomes complicated that is a sign that the vote is being suppressed.
I wish I could believe you when you say there will be consequences if Arizona was neglectful in updating their registration, sadly however it seems that people are rarely held accountable for voter suppression.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)I'm saying that certain people commenting from a distance who don't know how elections work shouldn't be screaming election fraud.
For example, the kind of people who believe the DNC, and not the Arizona Secretary of State, runs the PPE in Arizona.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)The system failed in Arizona and the voters hold absolutely no blame for those systemic failures, there are public officials who are responsible and they need go be investigated and held accountable.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Would suppressed voter turnout help Republicans in the GE, congressional, and local races?
Was the DNC raising hell when these changes were made? They should have knowledge about changes like some of these, and while having limited power, the could help fight a bit before the changes were made. Give resources to help organize against it.
Some will only care about one of those questions.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Where I live polling places are the same in each election, primary included.
Two of my questions would still be very valid.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Was changed for this primary only
Local Dem party protested it but were ignored
DNC would be laughed at
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Glad to hear dems protested it. Seems they knew.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Seems they should have been.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Half of the problem is the County Recorder expected a turnout like in 2012, where there was no Dem race and Romney had AZ won easily so turnout was low
yellowcanine
(35,698 posts)You have to do better than that.
TheFarseer
(9,319 posts)It happens in every state. How is this possible? I hear lots of stories of Hillary people going door to door with ballots all filled out just needing a signature. You don't suppose they hit the Alzheimer's wing at the nursing home do you?
yellowcanine
(35,698 posts)I'll bet you do. And what of it? I don't suppose anything. If you have some proof of such claims show it. This he said, she said, my neighbor's first cousin once removed said is bs. Stick to the facts in evidence.
TheFarseer
(9,319 posts)I heard this from coworkers and neighbors and DU, not conspracytheory.com or whatever you were thinking. Believe what you want and I'll believe what I want.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)TheFarseer
(9,319 posts)Not cheating but not how I want to win.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Psst ... this has nothing to do with HRC and everything to do with having a libertarian Governor and a legislature full of republicans intent on PROVING that government can't work.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)eom
Not good.