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whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:12 PM Mar 2016

Thread of Lies - updated

Hillary supporters, how many of you would throw in the towel if the situation was reversed?

Edit: Please no anecdotes about other elections and candidates. In this election would be ready to quit supporting Hillary right now if the situation was reversed?

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Thread of Lies - updated (Original Post) whatchamacallit Mar 2016 OP
At this point, I would know my candidate was beat. RandySF Mar 2016 #1
And you would encourage her to quit? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #3
Yep and I've done so numerous times over the years. RandySF Mar 2016 #4
Who, when, how? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #9
Jackson 88, Dean '04 RandySF Mar 2016 #12
Did you tell them, write them? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #13
Nothing that special RandySF Mar 2016 #14
You don't have to throw in the towel Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #2
My money, my choice whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #8
... Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #11
Says you whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #18
The Single Payer issue alone is worth having Bernie out there fighting hard. think Mar 2016 #17
If Bernie had an FBI investigation and a Sanders foundation Politicalboi Mar 2016 #5
Excellent points and well said Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #7
Most likely we all would want to pull together upaloopa Mar 2016 #6
Doesn't answer my question does it? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #10
I think it does upaloopa Mar 2016 #22
I don't have a strong preference in this cycle, but... Dem2 Mar 2016 #15
Did you harrass her and her supporters to quit? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #16
That's not my style Dem2 Mar 2016 #19
I wish there were more like you around here whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #20
In 2008, I switched from Clinton to Obama when I thought he could win... brooklynite Mar 2016 #21
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. You don't have to throw in the towel
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:13 PM
Mar 2016

But you do have to understand that all the money you're throwing at Bernie is doing nothing but lining the pockets of Tad Devine and Jeff Weaver.

Hillary will be nominated over the summer while Tad and Jeff sunbathe in the Florida Keys.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
8. My money, my choice
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:18 PM
Mar 2016

I don't buy that bullshit for a minute, but I'd rather feather their nests than line the pockets of ClintonCo and cronies. And I definitely won't see it used to facilitate blowing up brown babies half a world away.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
17. The Single Payer issue alone is worth having Bernie out there fighting hard.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:28 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary on the other hand gave millions of dollars in speeches to health care and pharmaceutical companies that will benefit from the current health care model and is now dissing single payer.

Hillary Clinton’s Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees

By Zaid Jilani
Jan. 13 2016, 10:39 a.m.


Hillary Clinton’s sudden attack on Bernie Sanders’ single-payer health care plan is a dramatic break with Democratic Party doctrine that the problem with single-payer is that it is politically implausible — not that it is a bad idea.

Single-payer, the Canadian-style system in which the government pays for universal health care, takes the health insurance industry out of the picture, saving huge amounts of money. But the health insurance industry has become so rich and powerful that it would never let it happen.

That was certainly Clinton’s position back in the early 1990s, when she was developing her doomed universal coverage proposal for her husband, Bill.

But in the ensuing years, both Clintons have taken millions of dollars in speaking fees from the health care industry. According to public disclosures, Hillary Clinton alone, from 2013 to 2015, made $2,847,000 from 13 paid speeches to the industry.

Read more:
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
5. If Bernie had an FBI investigation and a Sanders foundation
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:16 PM
Mar 2016

That was dealing arms, I would want him to drop out. If Bernie was taking money from Wall Street and not showing us his words, I would want him to drop out. If Bernie went behind Obama's back I would want him to drop out.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
22. I think it does
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:29 PM
Mar 2016

I said in My OP if the situation were reversed I would want Hillary to drop out after I healed from the DU wars

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
15. I don't have a strong preference in this cycle, but...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016

I had already thrown the towel in on Hillary in '08 by now, so it's not theoretical. Obama was obviously the better candidate - it was clear that his charisma was going to carry the day. It's not as clear to me who's the obviously better candidate in this cycle, though Bernie does have a tough row to hoe.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
19. That's not my style
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:31 PM
Mar 2016

I don't criticize either candidate in this cycle either. I do object to unfair criticism of either candidate.

brooklynite

(94,384 posts)
21. In 2008, I switched from Clinton to Obama when I thought he could win...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:33 PM
Mar 2016

I don't feel that way about Sanders.

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