I would have respected those calls to drop out a lot more if they had waited another week.

He set March 15 as the end of the campaign when there was still a path open for Bernie at that point.

Bias from the owners of sites like Kos and DU just show their true colors.

That's what it would be.

Even though the site membership overwhelmingly preferred Sanders.

The magic date all Hillary's supporters in media were supposed to "shift gears" or whatever.

I have been banned from the Barack Obama group for posting things critical of Hillary.

Why would anyone go spread it in some obscure group -- except for further indulgence? That's not muting. Silly.

So this current dissension of yours is actually muted and we are unable to read it?

(space to rationalize provided below free of charge)

This site is in no way representative of the Democratic Party, and had almost zero real world influence.

There's tons of pro Bernie and anti Hillary rhetoric all over the site. You even found a way to circumvent Skinner's new rule that Bernie/Hillary groups and GDP wouldn't make it to the front page vis a vis the Video & Multimedia forum.

I didn't remember their name.

I'm reading stuff and finding I'm in the video forum. Good grief. Hatemongering just isn't fun if you're not outraging people with it.

support on DU than hillary and his supporters said the meanest things about her -- things i would have not allowed.

We outnumber the conservative members of the party. No reason we should have to leave.

In fact, most Bernie voters ARE liberals, not far lefters.

As for the far-lefters, they can continue to work for progress by backing the Democratic Party candidate its liberals elected or end up marginalized and powerless again. Strictly their choice.

By a country mile.

You make it sound like you've found them out in a nefarious plot.

But Salon and Huffington post being so blatantly biased towards Sanders is ok?

It would be disingenuous to the max for DU to "endorse" Hillary considering Bernie polls what, like 80%+ here?

Not a good thing or a bad thing, it's their site, but I think it's pretty idiotic for people to expect the admin's preferences should affect how things are discussed here. Purges are never good for money-making web properties....

DEMOCRATIC Underground. He can't have been happy to have it become an enclave of anti-Democrats who came looking for fights with their favorite enemy and stayed. In the process causing many decent Democrats to leave, unwilling to put up with hostile, aggressive extremist behaviors.

Now I have more to send Bernie. I love the man for what he stands for.

will ya?

He's so cute when he's nervous.

...because thousands and thousands of people in this country haven't cast an effing vote yet!

by insisting, well in advance, that she would be the presumptive nominee on KOS on March 15. He's as credible as David Brock.

Oh, and he can kiss my ass.

The writing is on the wall.

Or does he just get some brandy in the Roosevelt Room?

Either Bernie's wave will arrive and lift him up or Hillary will amass an insurmountable lead. I think all six states will be won the same candidate thus giving a clear indication where momentum in the race is at the time.

However, I do think Sanders needs to stop bashing the Democratic Party and focus on the Republicans instead.

He also needs to be more honest with his supporters about his chances.

He needs to continue to run for the Democratic Primary. That's why millions are sending him money and would probably lose most of that support if he didn't. He has stated, and I support him on this, that he will stay in to the convention. If he stops "bashing" the Democratic Party (which deserves a good bashing and a good thrashing for moving to the right) and more specificly stop challenging Sec Clinton on her record, policies and past statements then it would be the same as dropping out.

Even if Sen Sanders does not get the nomination (We all know Sec Clinton has been and continues to be the odds on favorite) he can use his sizeable delegate count to influence the party's GE platform. We Sanders supporters are not going away, shutting up, falling in line or heeling. The neo-liberal wing of the party doesn't have to like it.

Party he joined. Stay in, but switch the badmouthing and negative campaigning to the GOP.

He's in it all the way to the convention, because as Clinton famously said: "you don't know what may happen in June".

would like him to drop out now, or for his supporters to give up now, BEFORE he wins the next 8 states and diminishes Clinton's 300 delegate lead.

It's not happening.

to the author's previous best-seller. Available at a bookstore near you in March, 2016!

Seriously, though, fuck Markos.

Sounds insurmountable. Better bow out! Agenda much?

This may have been part of a swarm attempt, too. They got me last Friday with two alerts sustained in a short period of time (triggers an automatic account review and temporary suspension), and I had the weekend off. If that's the case, now there's one swarmer who's not gonna be able to help.

because shutting us up will help their candidate, right??

Sid

Bernie or Bust. Bernie doesn't have investigations going on. Fuck this asshole.

his campaign and its value to anyone.

Some people need to get a grip eh?

I guess you no longer have to "Crash the Gates" after you've become absorbed by the Establishment borg mentality.

And then Hillary will have to earn my vote.

about voting. That's SO democratic.

Time to knuckle under and bow down!

Sanders supporters are too funny to watch.

Sanders supporters. It's what they lead with time and time again.

and resentment of the Far Left toward liberals and the Democratic Party. Not the GOP. Us! I'd never been around more than a couple at a time, so I never realized we were the Great Enemy of Civilization for the Far Left, as well as for the Far Right.

All I can think is they want to be us, or rather in our position, and are eaten up with resentment that they always end up losing instead of us.

And poor liberals who support Bernie -- in their normal rational way, of course. It must be very unpleasant to be linked with extremist acting out.

Starting with 1933 with the German communists refusing to join with the Social Democrats to oppose Hitler over not being pure left enough and in 1968 blowing up the convention and making it possible for Nixon to be elected.

After the catastrophes they learn their lesson for a few years and then a new generation of ideological young far left kids who never lived through a purity driven disaster have to learn those lessons again.

and anxiety of extremism and the belief that only they can save their nation from the abyss.

Fortunately, it does look as if steadier heads are going to win this election, and hopefully we will make enough progress over the next eight years that increased stability and prosperity will offer them little opportunity.

Bernie gave a good fight. He should be proud that he brought some major issues to light.

To perhaps-to-be indicted, but likely nominee, Hillary. But setting that aside Kos lost the plot a few years ago.

or someone who is selling out their own principles over their "electability" perceptions,
or a total idiot who doesn't understand her foreign policy--

or maybe someone like KOS who sympathizes with right-wingers in Central America,
because his family was chased out of El Salvador by the LEFT.

True fact. So NOW it makes COMPLETE SENSE TO ME
why he would support Hillary's neocon foreign policy in general,
and supporting a right-wing coup in Honduras in particular.

is not pleasant.

Thanks for your self-censored reaction; I'll just fill in the blanks!

However, I believe what I said is true--

there's a hell of a lot of neocons that have somehow snuck into this party,
whether they know what they are or not.

I hope your site crashes and burns, Markos.

superdelegates.

K&R!

People in Oregon and Washington State also want to vote. Leave us alone. We want to vote.