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Rolling Stone Magazine Endorses Hillary Clinton (Original Post) JaneyVee Mar 2016 OP
Wowza!!! YES!! fun n serious Mar 2016 #1
My subscription ran out on RS about 7 years ago. Whew! Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #2
Yeah! It would be a shame to have to read something you didn't agree with... brooklynite Mar 2016 #35
I liked Matt Taibbi's articles Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #78
Probably most informative endorsement ever. Hortensis Mar 2016 #93
Well, it doesn't come close ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #3
Regular readers will have learned well from Matt Taibbi that Clinton is a disaster of a candidate JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #29
Taibbi probably isn't worth $700,000,000 kristopher Mar 2016 #38
Holy $hit!!! JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #52
and that makes him better? DonCoquixote Mar 2016 #84
Does your post mean something to the topic? kristopher Mar 2016 #88
as much of a connnection DonCoquixote Mar 2016 #89
Don't be silly, DC. mac56 Mar 2016 #95
a HUUUUUUUUGE handful riversedge Mar 2016 #43
Nailed it, gurl! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2016 #64
Sorry, there is no room under the bus. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #4
Yesssss!!!!!!!!!!! Love it!!!!! Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #5
Here it comes!! workinclasszero Mar 2016 #13
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #6
Wow I'm shocked! workinclasszero Mar 2016 #7
Poor Matt Tiabbi must be gagging! lol nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #8
Also anyone whose eyes have been opened by his articles. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #17
I would have had an embolism if Matt Taibbi were to endorse Hillary. Crabby Abbey Mar 2016 #9
Where did this come from? Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #10
CNN reporter Tom LoBianco on Twitter. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #14
Thanks. nt Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #25
Rolling Stone Endorses Hillary Clinton for President workinclasszero Mar 2016 #21
Thanks for the link. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #30
My pleasure workinclasszero Mar 2016 #31
That makes no sense TheFarseer Mar 2016 #11
Wenner. Hissyspit Mar 2016 #18
I'm willing to bet that Matt Taibbi is not on the editorial board. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #19
Do they normally endorse primary candidates? Cal Carpenter Mar 2016 #12
Neither Wenner nor Rolling Stone is what it used to be. ebayfool Mar 2016 #15
"I have been to the revolution before. It ain't happening." oasis Mar 2016 #16
Someone (Wenner) missed the entire point of the Rock movement. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #23
Feel the Bern. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #26
Flee the Bern...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #49
Oh dear God. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #40
This may be the most cynical endorsement I have seen this cycle. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #54
Think it's reverse psychology...? SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #58
I mean since it is a magazine devoted to counter-culture (heck, remember Hunter S. Thompson?), JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #61
People who draw parallels between this election and the 60s is a moron Armstead Mar 2016 #50
Rolling Stone? Coooool lunamagica Mar 2016 #20
Rolling Stone's the music mag for old fogies Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #22
Apparently Wenner thinks it's turned into that. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #44
And how old are the boomers now? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #51
Dunno exactly. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #60
Confirmed...Rolling Stone Endorses Hillary Clinton for President workinclasszero Mar 2016 #24
A clear and urgent voice crying out for the status quo TheFarseer Mar 2016 #33
Establishment? Under the bus? :-P NurseJackie Mar 2016 #27
"It's easy to blame billionaires for everything but quite another to know what to do about it." ucrdem Mar 2016 #28
indeed ibegurpard Mar 2016 #36
Free trade is really a misnomer. ucrdem Mar 2016 #37
One thing I do know is the workers' whose jobs are on the line did not participate in the TPP JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #57
Which workers? The jobs that could be shipped off have left long ago. ucrdem Mar 2016 #59
Yes I'm familiar with the talking points. The new workers' interests weren't represented either. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #62
Well, Obama made it a priority to encourage new industries. ucrdem Mar 2016 #66
And what the hell wiill Clinton do about it? Armstead Mar 2016 #53
Ask Bill. He'll advise on the economy and yes that was a real statement. ucrdem Mar 2016 #65
Yeah-- give them private speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Marr Mar 2016 #67
I imagine they'll be more willing to work with Hill than Bernie. That's bad? ucrdem Mar 2016 #68
Oh, I have no doubt they're very anxious to work with Hillary. /nt Marr Mar 2016 #70
How about not electing one? Like that woman. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #74
SWEET ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #32
Me either workinclasszero Mar 2016 #34
The fools! longship Mar 2016 #39
Haven't bought a RS mag in at least a decade angrychair Mar 2016 #41
Wow, extrapolating from one very dissimilar example from 1972. Not convincing to say the least. Vattel Mar 2016 #42
And.. subscription cancelled. basselope Mar 2016 #45
Thanks for the info, and thanks to Rolling Stone for the endorsement. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #46
What a Clinton victory. Almost as valuable as the coveted Reader's Digest endorsement. Karmadillo Mar 2016 #47
I'm a 25 year subscriber. JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #48
Pretty much where I'm at. I've long admired Demark, but believe Clinton will get us closer Hoyt Mar 2016 #63
Occupy Wall Street was the antithesis of futile! SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #69
This is shocking to me. Agschmid Mar 2016 #55
Is there any more room under the bus for Jann Wenner? Tarc Mar 2016 #56
Last I heard, Warren hadn't endorsed anyone. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #71
You must have missed it when she was bus-tossed for simply not endorsing Sanders Tarc Mar 2016 #75
Guess I did. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #76
Gonna buy five copies for my mother. Yippee. mac56 Mar 2016 #72
LOL workinclasszero Mar 2016 #85
Wow. Stupiest thing I've ever read. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #73
Alternate headline "Dude with $700MM net worth endorses Hillary, brings his publication into it". Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #77
3rd time posted! Maybe post it a couple more. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #79
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #80
Very well written reasoning and makes much sense. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #81
Very cool n/t postatomic Mar 2016 #82
k&r! DesertRat Mar 2016 #83
Nice surprise. Beacool Mar 2016 #86
Sanders is not McGovern. Wenner no long idealist but a corporatist. Times change and paychecks. snowy owl Mar 2016 #87
Rock and Roll for Hillary! Ha! Cha Mar 2016 #90
"I have been to the revolution before. It ain't happening." hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #91
k&r bigtree Mar 2016 #92
This thread is like - mac56 Mar 2016 #94
 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
78. I liked Matt Taibbi's articles
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:47 PM
Mar 2016

But yeah, I wouldn't want to read a magazine that supports Hillary Clinton so I'm glad my membership ran out.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
93. Probably most informative endorsement ever.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 10:51 AM
Mar 2016

Great service to your readers, Rolling Stone

"It's hard not to love Bernie Sanders. He has proved to be a gifted and eloquent politician."

"With the narrow power base and limited political alliances that Sanders had built in his years as the democratic socialist senator from Vermont, how does he possibly have a chance of fighting such entrenched power?

I have been to the revolution before. It ain't happening."


"Clinton not only has the experience and achievements as first lady, senator and secretary of state, but a commitment to social justice and human rights that began for her as a young woman. She was one of those college students in the Sixties who threw herself into the passionate causes of those times, and she continues to do so today."


"When I consider what's in their hearts, I think both Clinton and Sanders come out on the side of the angels; but when I compare their achievements in the past decades, the choice is clear. This is not the time in history for a "protest vote."

Clinton is far more likely to win the general election than Sanders. The voters who have rallied to Sanders during the primaries are not enough to generate a Democratic majority in November. Clinton will certainly bring them along, and add them to the broad coalition that Democrats have put together in the past to take the presidency, as did Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

On the question of experience, the ability to enact progressive change, and the issue of who can win the general election and the presidency, the clear and urgent choice is Hillary Clinton."

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
3. Well, it doesn't come close ...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:13 PM
Mar 2016

... to the impact of a "Killer Mike" endorsement - but I'm guessing maybe a handful of people have heard of Rolling Stone Magazine.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
29. Regular readers will have learned well from Matt Taibbi that Clinton is a disaster of a candidate
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016

His stories in The Rolling Stone leave little doubt of what a Clinton presidency will look like when it comes to regulation of the financial industry.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
38. Taibbi probably isn't worth $700,000,000
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:36 PM
Mar 2016
Jann Wenner net worth:

Jann Simon Wenner (created January 7, 1946) is the cofounder and publisher of the music and politics biweekly “Rolling Stone”, in addition to the existing owner of “Men’s Journal” and “Us Weekly” magazines. He also briefly handled the magazine Look as well as in 1993, began the magazine Family Life. In 1985, he purchased a share in Us Weekly, followed by a combined purchase of the magazine with The Walt Disney Company the next year. The magazine went weekly in 2000; after a rocky beginning, it now reaches over 11 million readers per week. In August 2006, Wenner bought out Disney’s share and today owns 100% of the magazine. From 2004 to 2006, Wenner given about $63,000 to Democratic candidates and liberal organizations.

Jann Wenner Net Worth $700 Million Dollars


http://richestcelebrities.org/richest-business/jann-wenner-net-worth/

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
52. Holy $hit!!!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:48 PM
Mar 2016

My understanding is that Taibbi is very well off (his wife is a physician), but obviously he has a bit more perspective than this tycoon.

Business as usual for the powerful and moneyed elite.

DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
89. as much of a connnection
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:14 AM
Mar 2016

as you bringing in the fact that Jan Wenner makes more money that Matt Taibbi. Juts because jan makes more money does not make him right, if anything, he is possibly blinded by his wealth. Jon liebowitz pointed out that many who still read RS read Taibbi, who is right regardless of wealth, and if Jan disagrees with those points, then he is wrong regardless of his wealth.

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. Rolling Stone Endorses Hillary Clinton for President
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:22 PM
Mar 2016

Rolling Stone Endorses Hillary Clinton for President
Hillary Clinton is the “clear and urgent voice” that should be president, Rolling Stone says in editorial by Editor and Publisher Jann S. Wenner.

Editorial slated for Friday edition of magazine says Bernie Sanders’ anger over inequality “is not a plan; it is not a reason to wield power; it is not a reason for hope”
“It’s easy to blame billionaires for everything, but quite another to know what to do about it,” Wenner adds

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-03-23/rolling-stone-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
30. Thanks for the link.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016

It didn't come up in my couple of google searches, or from a cursory glance through the RS site.

Excellent news!

TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
11. That makes no sense
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:16 PM
Mar 2016

So many pro-Bernie articles and then they don't endorse him? More cheering for whoever you think is sure to win I think.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
12. Do they normally endorse primary candidates?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:17 PM
Mar 2016

It's been so long since I've read it regularly, I have no idea.

But I don't remember primary endorsements in the past. (or any overt endorsements, for that matter)

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
15. Neither Wenner nor Rolling Stone is what it used to be.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:19 PM
Mar 2016

Too bad, it used to stand for something - and it wasn't fishing in the middle.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
40. Oh dear God.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:38 PM
Mar 2016

Performing boomer headdesk and facepalm.

Even if I didn't disagree, what a fabulous way to garner enthusiasm.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
54. This may be the most cynical endorsement I have seen this cycle.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:49 PM
Mar 2016

There is essentially no good reason listed for Hillary in the press release, just a litany of negative remarks about progressives.

A shame really, for Rolling Stone.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
61. I mean since it is a magazine devoted to counter-culture (heck, remember Hunter S. Thompson?),
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:56 PM
Mar 2016

you might be right.

Not sure this is going to have the desired effect. I wonder if they'll run it next to Taibbi's next column slamming Clinton. LOL

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
50. People who draw parallels between this election and the 60s is a moron
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:47 PM
Mar 2016

Jann has become too fat and happy

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,112 posts)
51. And how old are the boomers now?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:47 PM
Mar 2016

I believe the baby boom ended in 1964 or 65 so the youngest would be 50. And I believe Wenner's older than that.

I'm 58 btw.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
24. Confirmed...Rolling Stone Endorses Hillary Clinton for President
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:23 PM
Mar 2016

Rolling Stone Endorses Hillary Clinton for President
Hillary Clinton is the “clear and urgent voice” that should be president, Rolling Stone says in editorial by Editor and Publisher Jann S. Wenner.

Editorial slated for Friday edition of magazine says Bernie Sanders’ anger over inequality “is not a plan; it is not a reason to wield power; it is not a reason for hope”
“It’s easy to blame billionaires for everything, but quite another to know what to do about it,” Wenner adds

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-03-23/rolling-stone-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
28. "It's easy to blame billionaires for everything but quite another to know what to do about it."
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:24 PM
Mar 2016

Exactamundo. Refreshing!

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
36. indeed
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

We need more Clinton deregulation to siphon even more to them. With some heaping side-helpings of "free-trade."

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
37. Free trade is really a misnomer.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:35 PM
Mar 2016

You need to sort through the TPP to figure out what it is, which is basically a hyper-regulatory framework for international commerce that does a lot of things aimed at helping a lot of people. Think of it as an ACA for world commerce. But "free trade" is not the point.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
57. One thing I do know is the workers' whose jobs are on the line did not participate in the TPP
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:51 PM
Mar 2016

process. That should tell us quite a bit.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
59. Which workers? The jobs that could be shipped off have left long ago.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:53 PM
Mar 2016

I suppose they'll be performed offshore until the machines break or sales disappear but there are new jobs coming up HERE to replace them. That's the whole point of TPP from the Democratic perspective.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
66. Well, Obama made it a priority to encourage new industries.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:02 PM
Mar 2016

He even asked the late Steve Jobs if it was possible to manufacture iPhones in the US. Jobs flatly said no.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
53. And what the hell wiill Clinton do about it?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:48 PM
Mar 2016

Hell she doesn't even want to do anything sbout it.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
65. Ask Bill. He'll advise on the economy and yes that was a real statement.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:00 PM
Mar 2016

Here's what the last 8 years of Clintonomics accomplished:

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
67. Yeah-- give them private speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:04 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary certainly 'knows what to do about' concentrated wealth. lol.

angrychair

(8,594 posts)
41. Haven't bought a RS mag in at least a decade
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:39 PM
Mar 2016

Sounds like an endorsement from Wenner than the magazine itself but , meh, who cares.
the clip says "6 million millennial readers" seems unlikely as the vast majority of its readers are over 35 and a verified subscription of just over 1.4 million people.
In general though I see a endorsement like this being a serious negative to those younger, liberal readers. Otherwise, could give two-shits.
http://www.srds.com/mediakits/rollingstone/circulation.html
And
https://www.quantcast.com/rollingstone.com#demographicsCard

JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
48. I'm a 25 year subscriber.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:45 PM
Mar 2016

I love RS as much for it's hard hitting current events coverage as I do for keeping this 62 year old up on what's happening culturally and on the music scene. I'll continue to rely on the publication for keeping me abreast of a rapidly changing world.

I agree with Wenner that the attempt to pull the country to the left with McGovern backfired on us Boomers and resulted in a Nixon landslide. It's one of the reasons I too support the more measured experience of Hillary Clinton over the fringe policy dreams of Bernie Sanders.

Those who think change that wrests power from long entrenched brokers can happen overnight should witness the futility of Occupy Wall Street. The majority of Americans scoffed at those protesters much as they would a Bernie Sanders White House.

America has changed since 1972, but not to the left. When I worked the polls last week 4 out of the six voters under the age of 21 asked for a Republican ballot. Some revolution.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
63. Pretty much where I'm at. I've long admired Demark, but believe Clinton will get us closer
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:57 PM
Mar 2016

and without some of the Danish issues, mainly lack of diversity.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
69. Occupy Wall Street was the antithesis of futile!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:05 PM
Mar 2016

Why do you think we are all talking about the 1% and the 99% now?

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
56. Is there any more room under the bus for Jann Wenner?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:51 PM
Mar 2016

Perhaps they can ask John Lewis, Liz Warren, Lena Dunham, etc...to nudge aside a little. It's gettin awful crowded down there.

Snarkoleptic

(5,995 posts)
77. Alternate headline "Dude with $700MM net worth endorses Hillary, brings his publication into it".
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:31 PM
Mar 2016

I've a feeling Dr. Hunter S. Thompson would not be pleased.

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
81. Very well written reasoning and makes much sense.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:01 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders is a real life wizard of Oz... Big talking head, makes grand promises knowing he can't keep them, who's really just a charlatan behind the curtain in the corner.

Wake up scarecrow, that's a piece of paper, not a brain.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
87. Sanders is not McGovern. Wenner no long idealist but a corporatist. Times change and paychecks.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:12 AM
Mar 2016

Justin Trudeau - Canada Why are they so much more risk-tolerant and caring of people than Americans? More war. More inequaity. More special interests Thank you, Rolling Stone. Go back to rock and roll. You're better at covering musicians than politicians.

I, too, appreciate Matt Taibbi. But Wenner is a corporatist now.

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
91. "I have been to the revolution before. It ain't happening."
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:01 AM
Mar 2016

The author's pitch for Clinton reads more like a pitch for fear.

"Never try, never fail."

It's not very inspirational.

mac56

(17,561 posts)
94. This thread is like -
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:23 AM
Mar 2016

as someone eloquently put it elsewhere -

"eavesdropping on a sorority house."

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