...175 precincts, the second largest city in Arizona: Tucson, college town: UofA, and definitely feeling THE BERN!

I'm near Old Town Scottsdale - a blue dot in Phoenix.

If you're not listening to them, they are hilarious.
They just took Arizona off the board because people are still voting and they refuse to report on it

we wrote the exact same thing at the exact same time ... wooooo

This isn't the electoral college.

The people in line still have a chance to change the delegate count

And it's almost impossible for the networks to know that people are on line.

Primaries elect delegates. Getting more delegates does not mean that you "won" the state.

Delegate counts should be announced, not winners and losers.

We here in Ca go through this issue every Presidential GE, as the East Coast results have been known to come out while our polls are still open, which is known to depress our turnout.

Sheesh, it's freaking 60%-36% right now, and more than half voted before today.

I am at the rally in San Diego. Press shtick we have been checking it like every five minutes

"Si se puede" just broke around me

On line? Serious question

Countries with cleaner democracies, we aren't one, don't do that. In fact. We should not have returns from the East Coast during the GE while CA is still voting. In fact, if we did not have a pretend one we should wait until Hawaii votes

I take democracy seriously. Because theUS has a pretend one I will vote in pretend elections yes, I consider ours that highly compromised

It's OUR call, dammit! Sorry to curse but our elections are being run very poorly. I'm not screaming fraud here and congratulations on a big victory tonight. I do hope you'd agree that running out of ballots, poorly trained poll workers, reduction of polling places from 200 to 60 and none convenient to poor and minority neighborhoods, inaccurate voter polls due to IT issues and the like are not acceptable in this country! I'm sure Sec Clinton would have won by an even larger margin had none of these issues existed.

To the point George II, it is your call. My call. WE run this frigging country. WE make the rules. WE can demand professional, transparent, world class election processes. Please don't tell us it's not your call when you live in a democracy.

With out pretend media. But you as a citizen have a role to play.

Myself. I will vote to remain in practice, not because it makes a difference or matters anymore That became obvious in 2000

But when the same exact cnn reporter gives two different reports, one competent the other well within ten minutes. The only difference was the audience.

I don't expect you to care. But go ask president gore (save the Nader excuse) or President Kerry about these wonderful clean elections.

A characteristic of fascism is a controlled media and pretend elections. I will not be shocked one bit if, or rather when HRC loses the general due in great part to manipulated elections. Your unwillingness to even see a problem when one has been obvious for close to two decades now is what is far from surprising.

I got a rally story to write. And a procedural election story to write. And also reading to do in what reminds me of a me of a very Mexican election from when I was growing up. Only thing missing are Coca Cola and tortas.

Hell, I agree with the Mexican foreign secretary. I am paraphrasing her, but she is correct. The US has nothing to teach the rest of the world about democracy anymore.

You go on and whistle past that graveyard. You do it fine.

But whatever.

during the party's Presidential Preference election here in AZ. People are voting for party delegates and their ballots will be all counted.

Lawsuits have been filed about it.

Hillary voters will think, "we won, so my vote isn't needed".

It's perfectly reasonable to call an election with voters till in line if the number of voters waiting is less than the number of votes separating the winner from the loser. In fact, it's even reasonable to call it if there are more voters in line than the margin of victory if it's likely the percentage of votes going to the current loser won't be enough to over come the lead. The second scenario is the one Sen Sanders sees looming on the horizon.

Calling a winner before completion of the vote isn't a binding event. Remember "Dewey Wins!!!"?

Once the poll closing hour has arrived, the people on the line won't be leaving, and nobody who might be watching election coverage will be arriving.

Add to which, the average voter DOESN'T WATCH election coverage.

Not these days, with the majority of people having full access to news reporting in their pocket (or, more accurately, in the palm of their hand being stared at to the exclusion of all else). Full blackout until the polls close...no exceptions.

Random fake news sites becoming reputable. (Infowars)

If you block the larger media outlets, which people can semi trust, they'll just get the news elsewhere. The media reports aren't binding, it's their opinions. Why limit free speech?

I'd rather have it in a real news outlet than trust random twitter guy.

Random Twitter Guy isn't going to be conducting his own exit polling, is he?

He will.

You'll have completely inaccurate reports being sent out.

Somebody will setup www.recordyourvote.com

People will go online and record who they vote for and how many they see in line.

Then you've got only the online people reporting the information, which would be wholly inaccurate. Yet people spread it around anyway.

If the news doesn't report it, the gap will be filled. We should at least have a credible source, not random twitter guy.

Yeah, they can always host it offshore...but the more such steps that have to be taken, the more and more obscure that information will become. I don't much care if only a tiny fraction of voters see early voting info. That won't skew the results.

Such violations of free speech.

Free speech isn't unlimited. There are already restrictions against harmful speech (incitement, slander, hate speech, etc.) that have withstood constitutional challenge, and I think a very strong case can be made that early reporting compromises the democratic process.

Shutting down websites because people report what they see.

You're talking about telling television companies they can't report their projected winners.

I'm sorry, those are not in the same universal plane with yelling fire in a theater or other restrictions on the first amendment.

I fear we've gone too far off topic, so I'll end my participation here, but sit back and honestly think what you're talking about. Take it out of the context of an Internet argument you're trying to win, you're talking about removing our birth right to speak up.

Hindering speech goes against everything we stand for. Limiting first amendment speech is abhorrent.

A demonstrable harm caused by a category of speech. Our "birth right to speak up" has never encompassed demonstrably harmful speech. Early reporting clearly skews election results and thus compromises the democratic process. Banning it would fall under the same category as banning candidates campaigning in polling places, etc.

When that poll is obviously a blow out, what difference does it make to when it is called?

As soon as Primaries are a one vote one count situation, then I'd change my mind.

a blow out is a win, who cares. But it is not, so the proportion matters as much as the 'win'. Think about it.

I personally don't like it, but it's all apparently very legal.

The final count determines in part a proportional distribution. The Media wasn't calling or determining the number of delegates won, they were merely calling the overall winner/loser of the state majority votes. Nothing wrong with that.

A law preventing the media from reporting on election results in real time?

Maybe we should create a master list on the subjects and topics we feel should be illegal to report on. With enough support, we can suppress reporting on any subject we want to.

I think early election reporting (that is, before polls close) can be shown to cause demonstrable harm to the democratic process.

I am willing to bet that if your favorite candidate was not winning you would get it.

By the way, chew on this, due to the shenanigans now foreign leaders have said that our "democracy" is no longer an example to follow. By the way, the shenanigans started in 2000, they just have gotten to the point we have now pretend elections. I will gladly "vote" in my pretend primary and pretend general election, with the full knowledge that I do not expect my vote to really count.

Our elections are as dirty as they used to be where I came from... and I have the same exact trust in them. Chew on that one.

Yesterday at the Sanders Rally I was talking with a fellow reporter from Bolivia... hey the Secret Service kept us cooped in for a while. So we were shooting the breeze. We both agreed that US elections have become as laughable as the ones that are held in Bolivia, or in several parts of Mexico.

So what can I say?

But we have experience with dirty elections.

By the way should be that none starts to report on this shit until the polls close. In the GE that means you get to learn this next day, because you know what? Hawaii is still voting.

that our vote by mail system encourages participation, as does our automatic voter registration program. Lines? We have no lines. Polling places? Every home is a polling place, ever sofa a voting booth.
I feel sorry for Arizonans.

You should wait until all the exit polls are counted