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Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:57 AM Mar 2016

No matter who your candidate is, you should be concerned about voter disenfranchisement.

This is America, after all. Everyone should be allowed to vote, and our state and county officials should see that they do get to vote. I don't see how anyone can laugh this sort of thing off. It isn't about one candidate or the other, it's about freedom and democracy.

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No matter who your candidate is, you should be concerned about voter disenfranchisement. (Original Post) Punkingal Mar 2016 OP
Yup. Agschmid Mar 2016 #1
They don't care about that. They are going to cheer Bernies victories in those. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #3
Very true. joshcryer Mar 2016 #10
Why do you say that? Punkingal Mar 2016 #25
I think the reason why some consider the causus not fair is because most of the states that do a still_one Mar 2016 #28
Don't reflexively blame Hillary/Democrats. MadBadger Mar 2016 #2
Did you read my OP? Punkingal Mar 2016 #8
Maybe not you, but half of the posts about this seem to be doing so MadBadger Mar 2016 #11
psssst.. it's "not", not "bot" desmiller Mar 2016 #27
Agree completely astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #4
As a Hillary supporter, I agree. That being said... Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #5
Democrats don't disenfranchise? How do you know that? snowy owl Mar 2016 #9
If you're going to make an accusation, then YOU should supply proof. Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #14
Your the one who made a flat statement. Explain the accuracy of your statement. I questioned... snowy owl Mar 2016 #17
Catch pinebox Mar 2016 #26
If the Democratic party stands by and does nothing, they are guilty too. Punkingal Mar 2016 #12
Been going on for a long time. Nobody cares. That's Americans for you. snowy owl Mar 2016 #6
We should have took to the streets in 2000 when Bush stole Florida. Punkingal Mar 2016 #22
People STILL IN LINE Waiting To Vote...Have been Waiting For HOURS! Now Ordering Pizza... AzDar Mar 2016 #7
I blame the people who thought they could have 60 precincts instead of the normal 200 onecaliberal Mar 2016 #13
Yes, that is controlling turnout. How does it affect the minorities and poor in Arizona? snowy owl Mar 2016 #18
I guess we're going to find out. onecaliberal Mar 2016 #19
A lot of people who updated their registration were told it didn't update correctly Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #15
Here's another guy who said the state reversed his registration update Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #16
How does it work? Do they register as dems or repubs? Or is it neutral? snowy owl Mar 2016 #20
My my. artislife Mar 2016 #21
K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #23
Absolutely! nt anotherproletariat Mar 2016 #24
Kick Punkingal Mar 2016 #29

still_one

(91,965 posts)
28. I think the reason why some consider the causus not fair is because most of the states that do a
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:14 AM
Mar 2016

caucus do not allow for absentee ballots. That is discriminatory for those that cannot physically attend, or cannot stand for long periods of time.

I am not sure if the voting is private within a caucus either, and if not, that kind of goes against the concept of a secret ballot.

astrophuss42

(290 posts)
4. Agree completely
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:00 AM
Mar 2016

Every one of us should have a voice and it's a shame any member of any party seeks to take that away.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
5. As a Hillary supporter, I agree. That being said...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:00 AM
Mar 2016

Let's be very careful here! Democrats do not disenfranchise our voters, republicans do that. Arizona is republican controlled, which means they also control the election process.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511555838

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
14. If you're going to make an accusation, then YOU should supply proof.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:08 AM
Mar 2016

If you're going to make that kind of ridiculous statement, you should show us where democrats have suppressed our voters.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
17. Your the one who made a flat statement. Explain the accuracy of your statement. I questioned...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:12 AM
Mar 2016

can you do it?

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
26. Catch
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:58 AM
Mar 2016

Check this out.
Most of these states sadly are red.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_primaries_in_the_United_States

States with an open presidential primary
Alabama
Arkansas
Georgia
Illinois
Indiana
Massachusetts (All races' primaries open for "unenrolled"/unaffiliated voters only)
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
New Hampshire
North Carolina (All races' primaries open for unaffiliated voters only)
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma (Only Democratic primary is open to Independent voters as of November 2015)
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Virginia
Wisconsin

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
12. If the Democratic party stands by and does nothing, they are guilty too.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:05 AM
Mar 2016

But I am not taking aim at anyone in particular. It is the responsibility of all of us.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
6. Been going on for a long time. Nobody cares. That's Americans for you.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:01 AM
Mar 2016

I guess it is time to give up. The sheep will follow their masters. I mean, when did Bev Harris begin her site Black Box voting on election fraud? Nobody cares. Sheep. Complain, accept but don't change it. That's where we are at.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
22. We should have took to the streets in 2000 when Bush stole Florida.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:29 AM
Mar 2016

And in 2004 when he stole Ohio.

onecaliberal

(32,489 posts)
13. I blame the people who thought they could have 60 precincts instead of the normal 200
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:06 AM
Mar 2016

And the secretary of states office that put directions online but failed to train and honor the rules. I blame whomever failed to ensure there was a ballot for every registered voter. All of these incidences have benefited one candidate. It's mind blowing that democrats would be involved with TURNING PEOPLE AWAY FROM VOTING. it's getting so I can't tell who the republicans are.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
18. Yes, that is controlling turnout. How does it affect the minorities and poor in Arizona?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:14 AM
Mar 2016

Will anybody care?

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
15. A lot of people who updated their registration were told it didn't update correctly
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:08 AM
Mar 2016

So they were given provisional ballots but it was unclear whether the ballots would even be valid.



We need election monitors from the UN or something.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
20. How does it work? Do they register as dems or repubs? Or is it neutral?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:18 AM
Mar 2016

More frequent with voters of one party or pretty equal - I wonder if anybody will ever try to fix the problem of voting irregularities in this country. It takes an honest sec'y of state. Remember Ken Blackwell?

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