Bernie's message is that you have been screwed over and we are going to get even. That seems to me to support that view that everyone is screwing over them every day in every way.

I think its dangerous.

I plan to vote for Bernie, even if they've called the Universe for HRC. And I'll say it's rigged if that's the way I see it.

I'm with you. Nothing will stop me from voting for Bernie.

The American Coot looks and talks like a duck, yet is a member of the crane family.

Americans do indeed, rely on bumper-stickers for philosophical and political guidance.

I'm stealing that one!

She is the direct antithesis of what I believe in, just like every single person in the Republican party. Bernie has my vote.

Every day I work with her over me will be one where I bite my teeth and question why I thought enlisting was a good idea. Eight years of Clinton was bad for the military when Bill got the hot seat.

Hillary supporter:



Republican



Not terribly hard for those who actually make a good faith effort.

It's a good bet you benefit greatly from the status quo.

Without looking at a scoreboard, you can tell which team is behind by which side's players take a flop more after a fake foul.

Similarly in politics, the side that is currently ahead has no incentive to cry foul, and the side that is behind does.

It's noise. Sanders will close the gap considerably over the next two weeks. If he can make parity by NY he's within striking distance; if he can't, he's not.

The most diving I see is when a team is ahead and bunkering. Fouls waste time...the trailing team's most precious commodity.

When you walk into a polling place as a registered dem and they tell you that they have you as a registered republican - they do not know who you are going to vote for.

Hillary may have lost a handful of delegates tonite in Arizona.

Tomorrow morning I will be at the protest fighting for her votes as well as Bernie's.

Please try and understand. Democrats were turned away from the polls. Who they were going to vote for was irrelevant.

What happened to voters in AZ tonight is about freedom and democracy, not about any one candidate.

for standing up for something important

trying to exercise their right to vote. It needs to be addressed at every level. It hurts us all at a local, state and federal level and it is getting worse as the gains made in the Voting Rights Act are being eroded. I want everyone to be able to vote, regardless of their choice of candidate, because that is the cornerstone of democracy. I was verbally abused by someone on another thread for posting links for people who would like to get involved in improving voting rights for everyone, but I will do it again because we need every shoulder to the wheel on this:

http://www.thisismyvote.org/

https://www.aclu.org/map/battle-protect-ballot-voter-suppression-measures-passed-2013

http://lwv.org/tags/voter-suppression

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These are organizations that are accessible regardless of where you live, but in your own locale there will be other, grassroots groups, e.g., Rev. Barber's Moral Monday campaign in North Carolina.
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For those who don't believe HRC is concerned about this, just think about how minority voter suppression affects some of her key constituencies!

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/voting-rights/

I stand with ALL voters, even those who support a different candidate.

Sorry CreekDog.

Seems to be pretty damn clueless, to me.

To vote should not be happening in 2016, in the nation is supposed to be the shining beacon of democracy unto the world.

We all swore up and down we were gonna get this shit sorted 16 years ago. And again 12 years ago. And every 4 years after that.

as well. More poll access, early voting, and mail in voting opportunities are important.

In the last set of primaries I was in a region with too few of these options and had to wait several hours.

Then low turnout for local elections resulted in fewer opportunities rather than more.

I hope everyone stays engaged beyond this election cycle. It has very serious implications.

but blaming Hillary for Republican voting shenanigans is ridiculous, and that's what I'm taking issue with.

why the hell would she have anything to do with the number of polling places in a statewide election?

and surely she wouldn't want to have the most limited voting in places like Phoenix and Tucson, where she had big winning margins, essentially, where her voters are.

I have not seen anything from DNC about this. Are they not fighting this like they did not in all other states that had issues? This is problem many are seeing. The DNC is not longer Democratic Party, but party of a single candidate. They have been changing rules since the start to benefit Hillary. And media has been biased so bad that it is not even funny. And it is going to come back in bite the DNC in ass when GE comes around and all this crap is not being challenged because for some reason DNC has got it in their head that it is more important to win primary and let the GE be dammed.

Discussing how they can get tougher mandatory minimum sentences for medical marijuana users.

WTF!

I mean, WTF!!

it's why Republicans and Democrats voted at the same public polling locations, set up by counties and the state officials running things are all Republicans and the county recorder in Maricopa (Phoenix) is also a Republican. Furthermore, Republicans on our Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act, so the reduction in polling places didn't need Federal approval.

the one thing you did get right, you wrote above, that you don't know how our system works because you're Canadian. Though you could know, you lectured me without bothering to learn what you're talking about.

Anyway, here's a Bernie supporter who blogs about elections, he wrote about Arizona's presidential preference election, so I'm not pulling your chain, I'm telling you the truth and by the way --what you wrote is incorrect.

I hope this post by a pro-Bernie blogger who is also an election expert is helpful.

http://jdeeth.blogspot.com/2016/03/what-happened-in-arizona-one.html

Ought not be making sure the results are TRUE, and the best? All the way down to the grass roots level?

Sometimes when I discuss things with Dems it's not a spine that I think is missing.
I mean, like in how they allowed their majority to be filibustered into meaninglessness, so they could blame THE REPUBLICANS. It's THE REPUBLICANS fault, always.

No wonder they're so totally bought out.

I'm Canadian so don't quite understand what you USians are going through, but it's fucking weird stuff that I'm hearing.
Black box voting.
Weird stuff about lines? Like this is a popular Disneyland ride in peak season?

I live in a big Canadian city and I wander down to my voting place, at a local school, and walk right in to be instantly greeted, with seldom a waiting period of over 5 minutes to being ushered in to a table where I get my ballot. People are friendly, these are my neighbors. I take the card to a booth and mark my "X" in the simple, obvious, places next to names and parties, everything done uniformly, the same across Canada, and I bring the ballot back to drop it in the box under the eyes of scrutineers of all major parties. My role as a voter is done at the counting which is by hand and under the eyes of scrutineers of all parties. All of this happens instantaneously, transparently, and there's seldom controversy.

You got nasty to me and you're Canadian with no knowledge of how Arizona runs it's presidential preference elections?

Don't eve.

That has nothing whatever to do with the fact that I gave kudos for the post above.

For certain, I don't understand your election system!
That's WHY I'm so surprised that THE REPUBLICANS had such control of the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY process, that such deep rooted problems should be passed off as their fault.

Color me surprised.

It wasn't "personal", CreekDog. I don't have anything against you.

Bernie would have won those states by larger margins if it weren't rigged.

Just like I said in my last post.

Whatever result, victory, a person thinks should happen shouldn't enter into how an election is done.

Why are black box machines still used - why are they "legal"?
Are we practicing for idiotocracy?
Is it as bad as that?

There have been problems in US elections, of tremendously practical scale - and why aren't they ever fixed?
chads
chads for fucks sake.
skewed ballots that require a double-take before punching the fucking thing.
lines till next wednesday.
fucked up book-keeping --- the problems being proprietary computer software glitches.
as if the "leaders of the free world" can't find a way to give a person a clearly marked ballot, at the neighborhood school gym voting station, so they can mark it with an "x" and return it so it can be watched by scrutineers as it goes into the box. Then the box is taken to a station, under the eyes of scrutineers, so each ballot is counted under the eyes of all party scrutineers.

And everyone is happy.

Hasn't got a thing to do with "Hillary" or "Bernie" or "Trump".

And by going Woooosh, right over your head.
That's how the fuck it did it.

Bernie doesn't have a mafia to fix things for him. He wins when he gets 80% of the vote the Clinton mafia can't steal it.

She's scary for that reason because war profiteers are a scale or two above "mafia" level in 2016.

That people have questioned. 3 states where there were documented violations happening.

Find me where the Sanders campaign was blocking a voting center. Or were caught cheating at a caucus site. Or embraced voter suppression.

It's not every state. It's where it actually happens that we say something.

So exactly how is your conspiracy theory that he showed up to prevent people from voting supposed to work when he visited areas where she was the stronger candidate?

Here's the data:

Newtown MA: Clinton 14,721 Sanders 8,589
Roxbury (Ward 19): Clinton 5,663 Sanders 4,640

Nice conspiracy you got there.

Did I say somewhere that the result would have been changed? No.

Was there inappropriate behavior by the campaign? Yes.

And it's Newton, and you left out New Bedford

On a blue background.

I'd even prefer a gooey purple space of some sort.