2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThanks to Bernie's HUGE win in Utah . . .
. . . and factoring in the results so far from Arizona, Bernie is now 1,137 delegates shy of the nomination, and needs 58.6% of all remaining delegates to win the nomination.
(24 hours ago, he needed 58.0%.)
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)No actual contribution. Just fanning flames.
Cosmicone...plz go.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)What is wrong with you? You have somehow made it okay in your brain because it's the Internet and you don't have to look anyone in the eyes when you're being an asshole.
Check your shit, dude. That kind of belief just straight up makes you a shitty human.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)your boat.
Thank you for proving my point about trying to illicit negative responses.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)Your boat.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)eyeroll
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)I ignore people with nothing to offer.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)You ignored me THREE WHOLE TIMES?
I am so honored!
edbermac
(15,933 posts)On Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:48 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
I won THREE times?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1556719
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trollish
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Explanation: This is abuse of the jury system, there isn't anything in this post which is against the TOS, in fact the alerted is calling another member a name. Alerted needs to use other action like trash than the alert button.
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Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)Send the admins an email about this posters consistant behavior. Ignoring helps no one. Contacting the admins helps everyone.
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)That's why I've sent an email to the admins. Something I've never done in my 12 years here.
I ask that other posters send the admins a note about cosmicone if you too notice that he is generally being consistantly rude to fellow duers.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)He has an agenda to get free healthcare -- I don't blame him. May he find happiness.
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)Admins about this poster.
Look how many hidden posts they have in the recent past. Most definitely a pattern emerging with this poster.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)Well perhaps it's time for another break.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)You can have more than 5 hides (as long as you don't receive them very quickly) and continue posting. The reason is that apparently Bernie supporter-stacked juries were being too harsh and the outcomes unfair.
But this poster is just spreading hate.
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)and encourage posters he's rude to to do the same.
If he can't control himself then we'll just have to help him with that control.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)after tonight. Not by as much as his usual slips on voting days, but he's also now has fewer chances left to make it up.
Just in case distracting from that was what this was about.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Trying to get posters banned is bad form, imho.
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)That his behavior is inappropriate and that he needs to cool his jets. It's always met with troll tactics. So...seeing as he cant control his own behavior after having been asked by multiple posters...and he has been banned for this behavior before...the only recourse we have is to ask for his tombstoning...whether that be forever or a few weeks.
When a child refuses to play well with others, there has to be consequences...lest the grow up to be adults like cosmicone.
I'll tell you this...in 12 years I've never requested a ban for a poster. Cosmicone is the first.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)It would be nice if he toned it down a bit...A little good natured ribbing is okay. However even in in sports you can get penalized for unnecessary celebrations, i.e. taunting...
It's a hard line to define though.
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)Including you, that can control themselves enough to not alienate a huge swath of DUers. Apparently control is something cosmicone does not possess. And that's what tombstoning is for...for those adults that have never developed self control.
I thank you for your reply, my Clinton supporting DU friend.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)There are a lot of Sanders supporters on this board who would demur from your assessment that I haven't "alienated a large swath of DUers", but I genuinely appreciate your kind words.
BTW, the photo of the physically challenged man phone banking for Bernie was touching. I wish i could hug him and flip a magic switch that made him physically whole.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)...where he's rude and mean to other posters. I ask that you...along with messages from several others...send the admins a message about cosmicone. Enough is enough.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)I don't mind opposing opinions but this just hurts my eyes with the animated gifs at the bottom. Ignore.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)And then there's WA on Saturday, which has more delegates than AZ but will probably vote like ID.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)It will stay at about 58%.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Mathematically it must come down a tiny bit from 57.9%, but it will probably end up at 57.8% or so. The big hit comes this weekend.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts). . . it drops to 58.1%.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:48 AM - Edit history (1)
Though in the end this looks like basically a wash, percentage-wise.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Yesterday Bernie needed 1,171 of 2,020 delegates, or 57.97%. (Which rounds to 58.0%, not 57.9% as I indicated earlier, mea culpa.)
As of right now with the count 45 to 34 in favor of Hillary, he needs 1,137 of 1,941 delegates, or 58.57%.
If Bernie ends up getting 74 delegates to Hillary's 57, as the demographics predict, he'll need 1,097 out of 1,889 delegates, or 58.07%. A tenth of a percent increase from yesterday
msongs
(67,371 posts)angrychair
(8,684 posts)That he's a racist skinhead berniebro.
I mean why not finish the day that way. Today we have had Sanders attacked as:
A loser
Ageism
The worst Democrat to run in history
Antisemitism by calling a Jewish man a Nazi like Hitler.
Hillary supporters on this site make me sick...if Hillary supporters on this site are representative of their candidate than our Party is truly facing its last days.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)you're angry. The rest is nonsense, but that is never to be mentioned.
Come on. From the mid 70s into the 80s, which would be his terms, every year brings significant physical decline, and too often mental. It's like childhood in reverse.
This factor should be examined, and no doubt is being examined. Bernie might well be doing better if he had indicated a desirable vice president early on.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
For months, Hillary supporters were alert stalked and sent on time outs with bogus hides.
For months, Hillary was smeared and tarnished on a democratic board with RW attacks and her supporters called oligarchs, dumb, in "stockholm syndrome" and other choice memes.
If Bernie supporters had shown respect, there would be far less schadenfreude today and henceforth.
Bernie supporters are reaping what they sowed.
angrychair
(8,684 posts)So, as a Democrat, you are happy with and it's justified to attack another Democratic candidate, another human being, of Jewish heritage, who had family members murdered in concentration camps, using antisemitic and holocaust-denial websites and their conspiracy theories and stories about people calling him a Nazi and comparing him to Hitler?
It's ok to imply one of his son's a bastard?
Mocking and ridiculing his age?
These things didn't happen somewhere else, they happened here on this site.
So all these things instantly became "ok" because a couple, very few, said something wrong themselves (FYI, disagreeing with your candidate on policy does not count, something I will never stop doing)? Is that that the new Democratic Party 's motto "eye for an eye" or "everything is fair game, fuck values and ethics"?
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)I have never seen any Hillary supporter being anti-semitic -- that was just drama raised by some on your side without merit. I have never seen any Hillary supporter disparaging Bernie.
However, I have seen posts hidden when they truthfully stated Jane Sanders' commission appointments after Bernie campaigned for Shumlin, her golden parachute, her bank fraud etc.
angrychair
(8,684 posts)First off, I am insulted that you would be so dismissive of my concerns and call me a defacto liar to boot.
As recently as yesterday ( Google my username and yesterday's date) It also happened in December. I know because I left for the month of December in protest because of it. Google my username during the early part of December or late November if you want to see it yourself.
Your harping on Jane Sanders in very reminiscent of teapublicans screaming about the Whitewater land deal. Now if you are game to open that old wound and all the Clinton associates that went to jail while the Clintons stayed mysteriously insulted from harm.
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)Even a Bernie supporter can appreciate your comment since you have something to offer.
Much better than those that offer nothing.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:47 AM - Edit history (1)
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)To construct an extreme example, suppose that out of 100 delegates, A has taken 40 and b has taken 0. B now needs 50 out of the 60 remaining delegates. Then if A wins 4 and B wins 6 then we're left with B needing 44 out of the 50 remaining delegates, and 44/50 > 50/60.
The correct result is that if, say, Sanders needs 58% of the remaining votes and Clinton needs 42%, then in any contest where Sanders picks up more than 58% of the seats available the percentage of the remaining votes he needs will fall, and in any contest where he picks up less than that it will rise, even if he beat the 50% mark.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Thanks, and sorry.
jillan
(39,451 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Cavallo
(348 posts)And hey, how about paying over double in health care because insurance companies are in bed with our health care?
I'm voting against Hillary Clinton because I'm not pro any of that and now I'm convinced I will be leaving this site by November if not sooner because I do not believe I can vote for that woman who stands for all I am against.
I'll be voting liberal and probably be an independent when this is through.
I don't know what I'm doing here. I should leave. Bye. Don't know why I checked in.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Biggest mistake of my life. And I don't even live in a swing state.