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Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:52 AM Mar 2016

Thanks to Bernie's HUGE win in Utah . . .

. . . and factoring in the results so far from Arizona, Bernie is now 1,137 delegates shy of the nomination, and needs 58.6% of all remaining delegates to win the nomination.

(24 hours ago, he needed 58.0%.)

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Thanks to Bernie's HUGE win in Utah . . . (Original Post) Chichiri Mar 2016 OP
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #1
This is the shit I'm talking about... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #2
awwwwwwwwww I didn't mean to hurt anyone's net feelings :( n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #6
You're just a jerk to a large swath of DU posters... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #9
So much anger ... SMH n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #10
Troll troll troll.... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #11
You mean "elicit" and not "illicit" - Dictionary is a friend. n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #13
Troll troll troll... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #15
Takes a bow cosmicone Mar 2016 #17
You earned my 3rd total ignore. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #20
I won THREE times? cosmicone Mar 2016 #21
Jury results edbermac Mar 2016 #36
Don't ignore... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #24
You're proud of this behavior... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #22
From the transparency page, said about a disabled person: JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #12
I think it's time someone send a message to the... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #14
The admins have to be aware -- these are the posters let out of the jailhouse on Mar. 15. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #16
This poster was previously banned? Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #25
This poster repeatedly gets 5 hides and a vacation. But now the admins changed the rules JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #27
Well inform the admins... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #29
Sure, and in the meantime, Bernie is farther behind Hortensis Mar 2016 #39
If you think someone is a jerk tell him or her... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #44
Many of us have told cosmicone... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #45
I am loathe to criticize a fellow Clinton supporter... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #46
I see hundreds of other Clinton supporters here... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #47
There are a lot of Sanders supporters on this board... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #48
Did someone leave the 8 year old with the computer unsupervised again? eom tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #28
Cosmicone has shown a constant behavioral pattern Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #32
10-4 tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #34
Your post is sort of like an online version of a monster truck show. pa28 Mar 2016 #35
In fairness it will drop down to about 56.8% or so after Idaho is factored in Recursion Mar 2016 #3
All delegates from AZ are not in. cosmicone Mar 2016 #4
That's my guess Recursion Mar 2016 #8
If we give Bernie EVERY delegate from Idaho . . . Chichiri Mar 2016 #5
EDIT: math idiocy on my part, sorry Recursion Mar 2016 #7
He gains net delegates, yes, but the pool of available delegates shrinks. Chichiri Mar 2016 #18
it is his best demographic, idaho, utah, kansas, nebraska, and oklahoma nt msongs Mar 2016 #19
Yes, we get you implication angrychair Mar 2016 #31
Someone mentioned his age? Whoa! No wonder Hortensis Mar 2016 #40
It is Newton's third law cosmicone Mar 2016 #41
Really? angrychair Mar 2016 #42
You must live on a different planet than me cosmicone Mar 2016 #43
It did happen angrychair Mar 2016 #52
Cheers to you for using real numbers. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #26
EDIT: my bad, mathematical brain fart there. (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #33
No, that's still not necessarily true. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #37
Gah, you're exactly right. I have no idea where my brain went there. Recursion Mar 2016 #38
The delegates have not been allocated yet. jillan Mar 2016 #23
Congrats Bernie? workinclasszero Mar 2016 #30
I guess this is great news - if you're PRO Fracking, PRO TPP, PRO Wall Street Corruption and Pro WAR Cavallo Mar 2016 #49
I voted third party in 2000. Chichiri Mar 2016 #50
I was told there would be no math. Gomez163 Mar 2016 #51
 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
2. This is the shit I'm talking about...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:55 AM
Mar 2016

No actual contribution. Just fanning flames.

Cosmicone...plz go.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
9. You're just a jerk to a large swath of DU posters...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:01 AM
Mar 2016

What is wrong with you? You have somehow made it okay in your brain because it's the Internet and you don't have to look anyone in the eyes when you're being an asshole.

Check your shit, dude. That kind of belief just straight up makes you a shitty human.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
11. Troll troll troll....
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:04 AM
Mar 2016

your boat.

Thank you for proving my point about trying to illicit negative responses.

edbermac

(15,933 posts)
36. Jury results
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:55 AM
Mar 2016

On Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:48 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

I won THREE times?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1556719

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

trollish

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:00 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: There is nothing wrong or offensive about this post.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stupidish alert
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is abuse of the jury system, there isn't anything in this post which is against the TOS, in fact the alerted is calling another member a name. Alerted needs to use other action like trash than the alert button.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
24. Don't ignore...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:17 AM
Mar 2016

Send the admins an email about this posters consistant behavior. Ignoring helps no one. Contacting the admins helps everyone.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
22. You're proud of this behavior...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:15 AM
Mar 2016

That's why I've sent an email to the admins. Something I've never done in my 12 years here.

I ask that other posters send the admins a note about cosmicone if you too notice that he is generally being consistantly rude to fellow duers.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
12. From the transparency page, said about a disabled person:
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:05 AM
Mar 2016
I feel sorry for the guy

He has an agenda to get free healthcare -- I don't blame him. May he find happiness.
 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
14. I think it's time someone send a message to the...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:06 AM
Mar 2016

Admins about this poster.

Look how many hidden posts they have in the recent past. Most definitely a pattern emerging with this poster.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
27. This poster repeatedly gets 5 hides and a vacation. But now the admins changed the rules
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:23 AM
Mar 2016

You can have more than 5 hides (as long as you don't receive them very quickly) and continue posting. The reason is that apparently Bernie supporter-stacked juries were being too harsh and the outcomes unfair.

But this poster is just spreading hate.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
29. Well inform the admins...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:27 AM
Mar 2016

and encourage posters he's rude to to do the same.

If he can't control himself then we'll just have to help him with that control.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. Sure, and in the meantime, Bernie is farther behind
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:52 AM
Mar 2016

after tonight. Not by as much as his usual slips on voting days, but he's also now has fewer chances left to make it up.

Just in case distracting from that was what this was about.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
45. Many of us have told cosmicone...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

That his behavior is inappropriate and that he needs to cool his jets. It's always met with troll tactics. So...seeing as he cant control his own behavior after having been asked by multiple posters...and he has been banned for this behavior before...the only recourse we have is to ask for his tombstoning...whether that be forever or a few weeks.

When a child refuses to play well with others, there has to be consequences...lest the grow up to be adults like cosmicone.

I'll tell you this...in 12 years I've never requested a ban for a poster. Cosmicone is the first.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
46. I am loathe to criticize a fellow Clinton supporter...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:14 PM
Mar 2016

It would be nice if he toned it down a bit...A little good natured ribbing is okay. However even in in sports you can get penalized for unnecessary celebrations, i.e. taunting...

It's a hard line to define though.



 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
47. I see hundreds of other Clinton supporters here...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:23 PM
Mar 2016

Including you, that can control themselves enough to not alienate a huge swath of DUers. Apparently control is something cosmicone does not possess. And that's what tombstoning is for...for those adults that have never developed self control.

I thank you for your reply, my Clinton supporting DU friend.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
48. There are a lot of Sanders supporters on this board...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

There are a lot of Sanders supporters on this board who would demur from your assessment that I haven't "alienated a large swath of DUers", but I genuinely appreciate your kind words.


BTW, the photo of the physically challenged man phone banking for Bernie was touching. I wish i could hug him and flip a magic switch that made him physically whole.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
32. Cosmicone has shown a constant behavioral pattern
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:30 AM
Mar 2016

...where he's rude and mean to other posters. I ask that you...along with messages from several others...send the admins a message about cosmicone. Enough is enough.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
35. Your post is sort of like an online version of a monster truck show.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:44 AM
Mar 2016

I don't mind opposing opinions but this just hurts my eyes with the animated gifs at the bottom. Ignore.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. In fairness it will drop down to about 56.8% or so after Idaho is factored in
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:55 AM
Mar 2016

And then there's WA on Saturday, which has more delegates than AZ but will probably vote like ID.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. That's my guess
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:00 AM
Mar 2016

Mathematically it must come down a tiny bit from 57.9%, but it will probably end up at 57.8% or so. The big hit comes this weekend.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. EDIT: math idiocy on my part, sorry
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:59 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:48 AM - Edit history (1)

Though in the end this looks like basically a wash, percentage-wise.

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
18. He gains net delegates, yes, but the pool of available delegates shrinks.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:09 AM
Mar 2016

Yesterday Bernie needed 1,171 of 2,020 delegates, or 57.97%. (Which rounds to 58.0%, not 57.9% as I indicated earlier, mea culpa.)

As of right now with the count 45 to 34 in favor of Hillary, he needs 1,137 of 1,941 delegates, or 58.57%.

If Bernie ends up getting 74 delegates to Hillary's 57, as the demographics predict, he'll need 1,097 out of 1,889 delegates, or 58.07%. A tenth of a percent increase from yesterday

angrychair

(8,684 posts)
31. Yes, we get you implication
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:29 AM
Mar 2016

That he's a racist skinhead berniebro.
I mean why not finish the day that way. Today we have had Sanders attacked as:
A loser
Ageism
The worst Democrat to run in history
Antisemitism by calling a Jewish man a Nazi like Hitler.

Hillary supporters on this site make me sick...if Hillary supporters on this site are representative of their candidate than our Party is truly facing its last days.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. Someone mentioned his age? Whoa! No wonder
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:00 AM
Mar 2016

you're angry. The rest is nonsense, but that is never to be mentioned.

Come on. From the mid 70s into the 80s, which would be his terms, every year brings significant physical decline, and too often mental. It's like childhood in reverse.

This factor should be examined, and no doubt is being examined. Bernie might well be doing better if he had indicated a desirable vice president early on.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
41. It is Newton's third law
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:04 AM
Mar 2016

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

For months, Hillary supporters were alert stalked and sent on time outs with bogus hides.
For months, Hillary was smeared and tarnished on a democratic board with RW attacks and her supporters called oligarchs, dumb, in "stockholm syndrome" and other choice memes.
If Bernie supporters had shown respect, there would be far less schadenfreude today and henceforth.

Bernie supporters are reaping what they sowed.

angrychair

(8,684 posts)
42. Really?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:57 AM
Mar 2016

So, as a Democrat, you are happy with and it's justified to attack another Democratic candidate, another human being, of Jewish heritage, who had family members murdered in concentration camps, using antisemitic and holocaust-denial websites and their conspiracy theories and stories about people calling him a Nazi and comparing him to Hitler?
It's ok to imply one of his son's a bastard?

Mocking and ridiculing his age?

These things didn't happen somewhere else, they happened here on this site.

So all these things instantly became "ok" because a couple, very few, said something wrong themselves (FYI, disagreeing with your candidate on policy does not count, something I will never stop doing)? Is that that the new Democratic Party 's motto "eye for an eye" or "everything is fair game, fuck values and ethics"?

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
43. You must live on a different planet than me
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

I have never seen any Hillary supporter being anti-semitic -- that was just drama raised by some on your side without merit. I have never seen any Hillary supporter disparaging Bernie.

However, I have seen posts hidden when they truthfully stated Jane Sanders' commission appointments after Bernie campaigned for Shumlin, her golden parachute, her bank fraud etc.

angrychair

(8,684 posts)
52. It did happen
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:30 PM
Mar 2016

First off, I am insulted that you would be so dismissive of my concerns and call me a defacto liar to boot.
As recently as yesterday ( Google my username and yesterday's date) It also happened in December. I know because I left for the month of December in protest because of it. Google my username during the early part of December or late November if you want to see it yourself.

Your harping on Jane Sanders in very reminiscent of teapublicans screaming about the Whitewater land deal. Now if you are game to open that old wound and all the Clinton associates that went to jail while the Clintons stayed mysteriously insulted from harm.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
26. Cheers to you for using real numbers.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:22 AM
Mar 2016

Even a Bernie supporter can appreciate your comment since you have something to offer.

Much better than those that offer nothing.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
37. No, that's still not necessarily true.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:44 AM
Mar 2016

To construct an extreme example, suppose that out of 100 delegates, A has taken 40 and b has taken 0. B now needs 50 out of the 60 remaining delegates. Then if A wins 4 and B wins 6 then we're left with B needing 44 out of the 50 remaining delegates, and 44/50 > 50/60.

The correct result is that if, say, Sanders needs 58% of the remaining votes and Clinton needs 42%, then in any contest where Sanders picks up more than 58% of the seats available the percentage of the remaining votes he needs will fall, and in any contest where he picks up less than that it will rise, even if he beat the 50% mark.

Cavallo

(348 posts)
49. I guess this is great news - if you're PRO Fracking, PRO TPP, PRO Wall Street Corruption and Pro WAR
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:33 PM
Mar 2016

And hey, how about paying over double in health care because insurance companies are in bed with our health care?

I'm voting against Hillary Clinton because I'm not pro any of that and now I'm convinced I will be leaving this site by November if not sooner because I do not believe I can vote for that woman who stands for all I am against.

I'll be voting liberal and probably be an independent when this is through.

I don't know what I'm doing here. I should leave. Bye. Don't know why I checked in.

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