2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf my understanding of the rules and my math are correct, Bernie won 55 delegates tonight
to Hillary's 51. Hurrah for Bernie.
And not one state on the West Coast has voted yet.
The states that seceded from the Union have voted, but not one West Coast state has voted.
Bernie is gaining delegates slowly but surely.
Solid Snake1
(95 posts)NY, CA, PA, MD, DE, NJ will go heavily for Hillary. in NY shes up by close to 50 points.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)Have yet to see a solitary Hillary bumper sticker but have seen plenty of Sanders 2016 stickers right here in California where yes, we Feel The Bern!!!
Sanders 2016
& recommend.
Solid Snake1
(95 posts)Just like AZ, and the "massive Phoenix rally".
Im sorry but that is anecdotal at best. Just like Bernie's internet polls.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Solid Snake1
(95 posts)AZ is an indicator CA will go Hillary by 55-60%
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)California has lots of younger people.
And California is a state in which the marijuana issue will be big and get young people to the polls.
Marijuana is a huge crop grown in California. That's what someone told me.
I am not a marijuana user, but that is going to be a big issue in California because it is a controlled substance under federal law but legal for medicinal purposes under California state law. Bernie has promised to take it off the controlled substance list. (Which although I don't have any interest in using it should be done. We should treat substance abuse as a medical issue in my opinion and direct substance abusers and their illnesses into special care groups. Marijuana probably does not cause the medical problems that say cocaine or heroin or prescription opiates cause. We need health insurance for all if and special tracks for the care of addiction if we are to deal probably with the national epidemic of drug addiction and the medical problems it causes.)
Another big issue in California is education and student debt. Bernie is strong on that. He is also strong on Black Lives Matter (and reform of the justice system that is needed to make sure that Latino lives matter). He is also strong on immigration and family issues. Gun control is not as big an issue here because we have strong state laws about gun control and are pretty happy with them.
Bernie has the kind of attitude and presence that will be popular in California.
Bernie makes contact on many levels with people. Hillary does not. She does not give speeches to big crowds. Bernie's approach is likely to win voters and activists in California.
We have liberal radio in California -- KPFA and KPFK in big urban areas -- very liberal radio will help Bernie even if it is neutral in the primary.
We haven't really started campaigning yet but the enthusiasm is very high and a lot of experienced campaigners are working for Bernie -- like me.
brush
(53,759 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)California is an open primary!!! Meaning that independents (roughly 33% of Americans) will be able to vote in the primary.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Go Bernie!
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Does NOT a winner make.....LOL
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)California's 546 delegates will be the big contest.
I'm in Southern California, and we have not yet really started campaigning. I think Bernie will win big here.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)He need approximately 1,500 hundred.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Just wait until the West Coast votes. 546 delegates in California alone. That's a big hunk of delegates. Some will go for Hillary but a lot will go for Bernie.
Bernie will either win the most delegates or go to the convention with a large percentage of delegates. Either way, for a campaign that started only 10-11 months ago and had to win name recognition, that's fantastic.
Bernie will be a force to be reckoned with by Democrats and Republicans in the future. And I am delighted.
Feel the Bern!
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Also, AZ is probably going to tighten a bit due to the long lines thanks to GOP ratfuckery.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)17 for Bernie and 5 for Hillary
18 for Bernie and 5 for Hillary
20 for Bernie and 41 for Hillary
55 for Bernie and 51 for Hillary total.
The New York Times agrees with me:
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results
Look for the March 22 results. I had to look a little to find the right page.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)Feel The Bern 2106!!!
Thank you for sharing these accurate counts!!!
DLnyc
(2,479 posts)Current tally at Green Papers, but that will probably change as the night (and days) go on.
See my other post here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511557045
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)ID hasn't been reported there yet.
senz
(11,945 posts)All he had was truth, a passion for democracy, love for people, and a damn good heart.
He's doing GREAT!
So glad to be on team Bernie!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I was utterly disgusted when the response to the attacks on unions in Wisconsin was so weak.
Bernie would have responded in a big way to what happened there. The Democratic Party showed just how old, decrepit and conservative and even uncaring about working people it has become when Scott Walker did what he did in Wisconsin.
I don't want that to ever happen again in any state in the union.
senz
(11,945 posts)Wisconsin was unthinkable, felt like we the people were truly losing our country. Which, of course, we still could.
But there's a new spirit out there now. Bernie is doing what he hoped to do: waking people up, stirring a peaceful political revolution throughout the land. It's happening.
I hadn't quite thought of this as "scaring the establishment Dems," but love it. What fun!
People power -- YES!
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)75 in Arizona, 33 in Utah, 23 in Idaho
To be on course for the nomination, Clinton needs about 55 and Sanders needs about 76; 538 gave their targets as 57 and 74 at the start of the campaign, but Clinton is ahead of where she needs to be at this point.