But the times, they have a-changed.

But we also have this problem of so many people that have so little experience coming into the voting process and simply not understanding it in the slightest.

Some of the accusation bombs thrown out in the last few months have been really hilarious to watch simply because it shows a lack of understanding and education on the process - and that EVERY state is different in how they run it.

CNN saying they had no way of immediately knowing if the ballots matched the voters party registration.

I could give a bean who is the oppressor. It's not right if the republicans do it and it's not cool if someone just happens to benefit even if they didn't do it themselves. It's a very dirty way to do things. And even Hillary mentioned it was terrible a year ago.

every time their candidate loses. Why is there never accusations of voter fraud from Sanders supporters when Sanders wins? Ite an attempt to tarnish her wins and it's obvious.

election fraud. (unless you're talking about Ann Coulter in Florida in which case it is definitely voter fraud).

It's the same kind of shit we heard from the RW when Bill Clinton won, and when Obama won. Having their candidates inadequacies are exposed is not the result of a secretive cabal's nefarious machinations. Voters are just getting to know him, and they don't like what they see.

"magically" being able to determine for whom a voter is casting a ballot, and strategically turning away that voter, so that the voters voting for the opponent will gain an advantage.

Funny how we're not hearing these accusations of voter suppression or disenfranchisement from Clinton voters. If it were coming from all sides there might be a point to make--and I'm more than willing to change my mind on this, but all the gripes are coming from Camp Sanders.

I have yet to hear a case of a poll worker asking voter preference and then allowing Hillary voters to proceed while blocking Bernie supporters. Similarly, I was not aware of a Hillary line and a Bernie line at AZ polling places yesterday.

---corruption.

That's the point.

when the media calls a winner and I can see (via live video) a mile long line of voters waiting to vote, it looks bad. the people at the end of that line would have to feel pretty powerless. With all the young voters drawn to this election, it is a poor example of who we are and what we do. Every vote counts... except for you.... we are better than this.

"Oh dear, can't these people get things right."

Now some folks here are perfectly happy with this state of affairs since their candidate won. Of course during a general election if these lines and what seems like total chaos in the registration process occurred in Democratic leaning precincts in Florida, many of these same people would be screaming bloody blue murder as would I.

I try to keep the tinfoil in the draw but given the situation it does not seem too unreasonable to wonder that this wasn't deliberate. Incompetence or design; that seems to be the question. Usually I blame incompetence and stupidity but when things like this happen you just have to wonder.

I don't think the ability to call early is a problem in proportional allocation systems. If we had a system in place like the republicans with winner take alls, etc. my opinion might be different. As it stands votes certainly count toward the delegate total, which people should focus on more than the winner/loser categorization.

I do think the number of polling places accessible is a serious problem, and it's not a new one. It might be 8 years ago but I still remember the hours long wait to vote in the last cycle. I felt terrible for the people who were older, in poor health, or were trying to keep children entertained, in particular.

We need more polling places and more early voting opportunities across the board.

k/r

non-functional "democracy."

... the bigger fraud in election is caucuses that basically exclude the public to the benefit of the politically class. Caucuses are inherently undemocratic, and are based on the belief that only the politically very engaged should be making these choices.

Sometimes there's voter fraud even when you win.

https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/mi-primary-bernie-did-much-better-than-the-recorded-share-indicates/

In the primaries at least... We hold caucuses which disenfranchise thousands of voters.

Sanders, if he somehow manages to win will be representing a mass of selfish whiners whose only engagement with politics is trying to turn the Democrats into a socialist, marxist party. Sure, there are some life-long Dems among them but they are not the majority. This country cannot run on that shit. Bernie is looking and sounding more and more like an angry old man who is mad at his grown children who refuse to give in to his grandchildren who are demanding more candy and soda-pop while texting to their classmates instead of doing their homework.

We sure showed them in 2000 when the party left Gore swinging in the wind!

Then 2004 and Kerry, too.

Right on party leaders! Lead the way to defeat and allowing the crooks to cheat. Then vote to invade Iraq!! We're RIGHT behind you!! Lead on!!

He worked on Dukakis' campaign too...and Carter's re-election campaign, too...and Mondale's!

Gotta wonder who he's working for....!!

Maybe it's not the "party leaders" but the six-figure "party operatives" you need to be looking at....

All over FB i'm seeing former Independents turned Dems saying that they are so fed up with the rigged system and establishment that they'll vote for Trump if Bernie isn't the nominee. These people went from "Vote Blue no matter Who" to "I'll write in Bernie" to "I'll vote for Trump!" in a matter of weeks thanks to:

1). Blatant election fraud

and

2). Blatant media bias


Hillary fans who support this ARE NOT HELPING! They are handing it to Trump!

Thanks for the thread, reformist2.