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reddread

(6,896 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:29 AM Mar 2016

Time for Bernie Sanders to drop out

what? HE CANT WIN.
you know this is true, it's been said repeatedly.
time to drop the pretense and get behind
the inevitable.
her supporters have known this for quite sometime.
wake up smell the coffee.

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Time for Bernie Sanders to drop out (Original Post) reddread Mar 2016 OP
He just won two more states, with 78% & 80% of the vote peacebird Mar 2016 #1
Republican states that we won't get in November. RichGirl Mar 2016 #23
By that logic, you shouldn't count most of Hillary's states so far, right? nt revbones Mar 2016 #56
Delegates metroins Mar 2016 #45
Small majority white states that will vote blood red in the general workinclasszero Mar 2016 #64
I'm just going to leave this right here. mac56 Mar 2016 #2
I've been drinking tea lately hereforthevoting Mar 2016 #3
are you an extreme leftist teahadist? reddread Mar 2016 #4
I think it's because I actually believe in America!! hereforthevoting Mar 2016 #10
sounds kinda Englishy to me reddread Mar 2016 #14
as someone once said when asked to drop out: bbgrunt Mar 2016 #5
no low too low reddread Mar 2016 #20
I agree. Aren't you proud? bbgrunt Mar 2016 #29
Her interview about staying in until June is really very tellig, she not only invokes RFK's murder Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #60
Great find! You've accomplished the impossible. Jim Lane Mar 2016 #67
Not gonna happen. Hillary circa 2008 explains why. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #6
if I could bring myself to willingly listen reddread Mar 2016 #7
She wants all voters to have a chance to weigh in. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #9
oh, ok. thank you reddread Mar 2016 #11
Good for you. mac56 Mar 2016 #13
quote history can be so awkward sometimes... islandmkl Mar 2016 #16
Probably. But he wont. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #8
she didn't in 2008, so why should he? eom noiretextatique Mar 2016 #47
Because she was only down by less than 100 delegates... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #49
you folks seems to forget CA and others noiretextatique Mar 2016 #53
No, he shouldn't. Not yet. bigwillq Mar 2016 #12
welcome to California reddread Mar 2016 #15
How exactly is California Waterloo? NuclearDem Mar 2016 #51
Even if he's far behind, I don't want him going anywhere until Hillary is cleared by the FBI. Vinca Mar 2016 #17
Someone's "got this" reddread Mar 2016 #18
It's her turn!!! longship Mar 2016 #19
And leave Donald Trump with all-he-can-eat-24/7-free-media-coverage??? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO Hereiam2005 Mar 2016 #21
I'm more pragmatic than that. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #22
bowing reddread Mar 2016 #24
poor redddread greymouse Mar 2016 #25
you got it reddread Mar 2016 #28
You realize you can use capital letters... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #26
and sarcasm tags reddread Mar 2016 #30
Also a good idea. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #31
well, those that cant follow these bouncing balls reddread Mar 2016 #33
TMI! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #35
More whining from the hillary bunch. I love it! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #27
Why do you want Bernie to drop out? Avalux Mar 2016 #32
It's time for Hillary to drop out. Investigations aren't pretty pinebox Mar 2016 #34
Predictwise says he has a 5% chance of winning the nomination. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #36
even leas when she steals NowSam Mar 2016 #37
Well, I had a 5% chance of concieving w/ one embryo transferred out of 14. woodsprite Mar 2016 #48
That perpetual whine again? Are we going to do a round of this after every primary he wins 80 - 20%? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #38
actually, they seem to have dropped this for today reddread Mar 2016 #39
for those without the memory stick reddread Mar 2016 #50
Yeah, yeah. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #40
not really reddread Mar 2016 #42
Any good revolution needs LOTS of coffee. McGovernGirl Mar 2016 #41
this aint 1972 reddread Mar 2016 #43
It sure isn't. McGovernGirl Mar 2016 #44
oh geez reddread Mar 2016 #46
Point Break nt McGovernGirl Mar 2016 #62
Aren't you just messing with us? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #52
that is all you have seen reddread Mar 2016 #58
Donating again lmbradford Mar 2016 #54
I want Bernie to stay in for the media coverage. Gomez163 Mar 2016 #55
The primary is about so much more than a winning number of delegates. Orsino Mar 2016 #57
If they are so sure of their candidate mac56 Mar 2016 #59
I haven't voted and I'm sick of assholes telling me my vote should'nt matter. onecaliberal Mar 2016 #61
+1 dana_b Mar 2016 #72
Ridiculous! One of the 99 Mar 2016 #63
Yeah people, wake up and smell the corruption (oops, I mean coffee). polichick Mar 2016 #65
DU wRECk. SixString Mar 2016 #66
Fuck no. blackspade Mar 2016 #68
He's going to win more states left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #69
in it to win it reddread Mar 2016 #70
Maybe if the media and the DNC bluethruandthru Mar 2016 #71
Why? mythology Mar 2016 #73

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
1. He just won two more states, with 78% & 80% of the vote
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:33 AM
Mar 2016

Many more states to go. We fight on until the convention, and BEYOND!

hereforthevoting

(241 posts)
10. I think it's because I actually believe in America!!
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:49 AM
Mar 2016

And all of the things I really thought we represented.

But the longer I live and the more people I talk to I wonder: was I lying to myself the whole time?

*sips Tahitian Vanilla*

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
5. as someone once said when asked to drop out:
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:42 AM
Mar 2016

"“My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it.”

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
60. Her interview about staying in until June is really very tellig, she not only invokes RFK's murder
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:12 AM
Mar 2016

but she says the calls for her to drop out are 'historically unprecedented' and being uniquely done to her for reasons she did not care to speculate upon.

Also, DU had strong reactions to that. She was soundly condemned by many who are now supporting her with tireless gusto.
Here is 2016 Hillary Supporter Extraordinaire DanTex on the 'RFK was killed in June' interview:

"The problem is that Hillary rarely actually "means" any of the things she says. It's basically all spin and PR.

I mean, almost every single word out of her mouth during that whole statement was obvious BS:

-It's not "unprecedented in history" for candidates to withdraw (or to be urged to withdraw) for party unity. For example, the Reps urged Huckabee to withdraw for unity just this year.
-Nobody tried to push her out "since Iowa". It only started when she had less than 1% chance of winning without some catastrophe happening to Obama.
-The Obama camp has never suggested that she should drop out.
-She's lying through her teeth when she says "I don't understand" the unity argument -- unless she's completely braindead.
-The Bill Clinton analogy was BS
-The RFK analogy was BS.

100% BS. Did she "mean" any of it? Who knows what is going on in her head."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6111215


So there is no consistency to any of the Hillary boosters, they all used to hate her, no consistency in Hillary as she used to claim a long Primary was a good thing and asking candidates to drop out was wrong. Now she says the opposite, like DanTex....

Maybe she meant it as a double entendre. Her "official" meaning was that RFK was still campaigning. But she was in a particularly bitter mood, so she left the word "assassinated" as a jab.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
67. Great find! You've accomplished the impossible.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:04 PM
Mar 2016

You've found a DanTex post that I largely agree with.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
7. if I could bring myself to willingly listen
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:44 AM
Mar 2016

please tell me I wouldnt hear some dramatically rude reference to political assassination?

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
9. She wants all voters to have a chance to weigh in.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:48 AM
Mar 2016

She also says superdelegates and pledged delegates (seriously, pledged delegates too) can change their minds.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
12. No, he shouldn't. Not yet.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:50 AM
Mar 2016

It's unlikely Bernie will be the nominee but Hillary hasn't clinched yet, so Bernie should stay in until if and when Hillary clinches.

Vinca

(50,168 posts)
17. Even if he's far behind, I don't want him going anywhere until Hillary is cleared by the FBI.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:59 AM
Mar 2016

What's taking them so long???

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
18. Someone's "got this"
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:02 AM
Mar 2016

I think it is foolish to disregard the concerns of NSA related interests.
they steal elections overseas AS OFTEN AS THEY CAN.

longship

(40,416 posts)
19. It's her turn!!!
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:08 AM
Mar 2016

Where have we heard that before?

Talk about unbridled, blinkered hubris.

The coffee is still brewing.

Hereiam2005

(23 posts)
21. And leave Donald Trump with all-he-can-eat-24/7-free-media-coverage??? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:11 AM
Mar 2016

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

Bernie should stay right where he belong: in the race.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,119 posts)
22. I'm more pragmatic than that.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:17 AM
Mar 2016

I think BOTH of them should drop out and release their delegates to Vermin Supreme.

Remember, we're talking free pony here.

And zombie defense. (As far as I'm concerned, people who don't #FeelTheVerm are closet zombie-lovers and pony-haters. There, I said it and I'm glad.)

greymouse

(872 posts)
25. poor redddread
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:22 AM
Mar 2016

your desperation is showing. If you really thought Hillary would win, you'd be drinking tea and working in your garden, instead of posting these pleas.

By the way, you can say something a zillion times, but that doesn't make it true. You might pass that note along to your forked tongue candidate.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
26. You realize you can use capital letters...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:27 AM
Mar 2016

...for something besides SHOUTING, right? Like beginning sentences...

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
33. well, those that cant follow these bouncing balls
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:37 AM
Mar 2016

should turn towards their cable TV and get their instructions there.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
34. It's time for Hillary to drop out. Investigations aren't pretty
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:38 AM
Mar 2016

2 investigations currently happening. Bernie supporters have known all along that this is something which only damages the Democratic party and most of America can't stand her. This means a loss in the general election.

thesquanderer

(11,953 posts)
36. Predictwise says he has a 5% chance of winning the nomination.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:56 AM
Mar 2016

It's not a lot, but it's not nothing. In fact, it's not even as low as it's ever been (they had him at 3% at the end of February).

If you had a 1-in-20 shot at being nominated (and if nominated, then a better than even chance of being President), would you just walk away because you didn't like the odds? Add to the fact that your only opponent is under constant threat of investigation. What exactly would be the reason to quit? Meanwhile, even if he loses, he's continuing to get his message out, Which to Bernie might even be the most important part of the campaign.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
37. even leas when she steals
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:02 AM
Mar 2016

Arizona is a disgrace. The vote flipping will continue but relax is all a show. HillDon ClinTrump is the only candidate you can vote for.

woodsprite

(11,853 posts)
48. Well, I had a 5% chance of concieving w/ one embryo transferred out of 14.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:47 AM
Mar 2016

He just started driver's ed this semester, and we celebrate his 16th birthday in May!

McGovernGirl

(8 posts)
41. Any good revolution needs LOTS of coffee.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:08 AM
Mar 2016

That's the coffee I smell. Probably safe to say that Bernie will likely not win the nomination, but the revolution will go on.

Before the Hillary folks invalidate anything I might have to say since I've only got a couple of posts here, I've been reading DU for years, worked my first campaign for McGovern, and have been a registered Democrat since I could vote.

Hello DU. Espresso, anyone?

McGovernGirl

(8 posts)
44. It sure isn't.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:16 AM
Mar 2016

I still have one of the Tricky Dick Halloween masks we handed out campaigning on the streets. Maybe they can be recycled.

lmbradford

(517 posts)
54. Donating again
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:53 AM
Mar 2016

Everytime someone calls for him to quit, i donate more money. Sanders supporters should join me.

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
55. I want Bernie to stay in for the media coverage.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:54 AM
Mar 2016

Otherwise it will be *TRUMP* *TRUMP* *TRUMP* *TRUMP* *TRUMP* *TRUMP* *TRUMP* *TRUMP* *TRUMP* *TRUMP* *TRUMP*

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
57. The primary is about so much more than a winning number of delegates.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:55 AM
Mar 2016

Anyone who's stayed awake through an entire primary process knows this.

But here's a starting point for your research: 2008's second-place Democrat wound up in the goddamned Cabinet, and is using that experience now as part of what looks to be a winning candidacy.

Not quitting, and using won delegates as bargaining chips is exactly what you want a candidate to do, right?

mac56

(17,561 posts)
59. If they are so sure of their candidate
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:00 AM
Mar 2016

don't they think they can win fair and square?

Don't they think they can win on the merits, with an opponent in till the very end?

Um... never mind... we already know the answer.

onecaliberal

(32,471 posts)
61. I haven't voted and I'm sick of assholes telling me my vote should'nt matter.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

My state is the largest state in the country, vote suppression and disenfranchisement is a republican maneuver. This is the reason SOOOOOO many will NEVER EVER EVER vote for her. She will lose the GE if she's the nominee. You people will only have yourselves to blame.

bluethruandthru

(3,918 posts)
71. Maybe if the media and the DNC
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:44 PM
Mar 2016

hadn't started the entire primary process by saying that Hillary was the nominee...maybe more people in the early primary states would have come out to support Bernie.
Not long ago, every Democrat I knew said "I really want to vote for Sanders...but he doesn't have a chance". Not realizing that just by perpetuating that lame talking point...they were sealing Bernie's fate.
Bernie's momentum is phenomenal...even though Democratic party and the media continue to talk as if Hillary is the candidate!
The whole situation is no different that the media calling the race for Clinton in Arizona last night while thousand of people were still in line to vote!

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
73. Why?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:02 PM
Mar 2016

He's bringing up issues that he and his supporters feel passionate about. If she is inevitable (and I would say that she is the overwhelming favorite at this point), then come the general election, Clinton will need as much of his supporters to vote etc for her as possible. If Sanders supporters get to the end and Clinton has won, Sanders and/or his ideas get a prominent place at the convention/in the party platform, his supporters might be more incentivized to buy into Clinton as the nominee.

And before you say that a long primary hurts the nominee, Clinton ran for a long time in 2008 and it didn't impact Obama's campaign.

If Sanders feels he can best push forward his goals by continuing to run, that's fine by me.

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