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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:48 AM Mar 2016

Caucuses seem to encourage voter suppression by discouraging voter turnout.

Hard to make the time commitment for the working, the elderly, the disabled, those with kids, etc.

Only 24k were able to make it to caucus in Utah.

Its time to end the caucuses. Make every state streamlined with the same primary process. And make access to voting more efficient.

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Caucuses seem to encourage voter suppression by discouraging voter turnout. (Original Post) JaneyVee Mar 2016 OP
Didn't hear you saying this after Iowa, etc. Must be the new memo went out. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #1
Actually, I did. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #4
this form of voter suppression is awesome because Bernie won nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #2
... Recursion Mar 2016 #3
For once we agree. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #5
Caucuses are the least democratic process for sufrommich Mar 2016 #6
Yup. I would not be able to participate. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #9
So I take it that you think there was voter suppression in Arizona, too. Thanks! reformist2 Mar 2016 #7
I addressed that... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #14
THIS ^^^ Haveadream Mar 2016 #19
Caucuses encourage very low turnout. If we are going to reform the primary system, Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #8
I agree. Time to streamline the process. Everyone on the same page. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #10
I would not be able to vote in a caucus state. The only type of caucus I support Lucinda Mar 2016 #11
I'm definitely Raissa Mar 2016 #12
For the states that do caucuses, there's an economic reason. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #17
Very interesting. Raissa Mar 2016 #20
Caucuses prevent many people from voting. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #13
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #15
I agree, it disenfranchises a very large portion of the population Dem2 Mar 2016 #16
Its awful and needs to end. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #18
Caucuses are horribly un-democratic and should be eliminated. tritsofme Mar 2016 #21
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
9. Yup. I would not be able to participate.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:58 AM
Mar 2016

I have to vote on my lunch break. My vote wouldnt exist. And Im 34 and in remarkable health. But I work 55hrs a week on average and have 2 little boys at home. Im glad we have primaries in NY.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
14. I addressed that...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:02 AM
Mar 2016

Where I said make access to voting more efficient. I actually think Hillary would have won AZ by a larger amount due to the above demographics possibly leaving due to other time commitments.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
19. THIS ^^^
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:31 AM
Mar 2016

Her margins would have been so much higher. Ironic that some haven't realized that it is the minority and latino vote that is specifically targeted by the Republican suppression strategy. They are the demographic who lost their polling places. They are the people who had to travel out of district to vote. The Republicans are doing everything they can to deny the poor and minority people of Arizona their civil rights.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
8. Caucuses encourage very low turnout. If we are going to reform the primary system,
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:57 AM
Mar 2016

caucuses should be the first to go. It is not going to happen because the Constitution gives individual states the power to run elections.

Second, I think California's primary system is good. I would like to see other state adopt a similar system.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
10. I agree. Time to streamline the process. Everyone on the same page.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:00 AM
Mar 2016

It would be good for voter turnout and be less confusing. One set of rules for all: vote.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
11. I would not be able to vote in a caucus state. The only type of caucus I support
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:00 AM
Mar 2016

is one that allows for absentee voting.

And it seems very few do.

Raissa

(217 posts)
12. I'm definitely
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:01 AM
Mar 2016

confused as to why we still have caucuses. Is there a political reason that caucuses are preferred in some states or is it just a holdover from early democracy?

Going into 2020/2024 I'd be interested to see if states change their methodology.

surrealAmerican

(11,358 posts)
17. For the states that do caucuses, there's an economic reason.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:24 AM
Mar 2016

Caucuses are paid for by the political party organizations. Elections are paid for by the states.

... and Welcome to DU.

Raissa

(217 posts)
20. Very interesting.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

I had no idea there was an economic distinction. I'm ill-informed on caucuses beyond how they work.

Thank you for the info!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
15. ^^^This!^^^
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:06 AM
Mar 2016
"Its time to end the caucuses. Make every state streamlined with the same primary process. And make access to voting more efficient."

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
16. I agree, it disenfranchises a very large portion of the population
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:15 AM
Mar 2016

Caucuses put an unfair burden onto those who might want to participate:

* Intimidation (groups all around trying to use peer pressure to get you to change your mind)

* Physically demanding - for instance, I'm not all that old, but there's no way with my present physical limitations that I could participate in a caucus if it was going to require more than perhaps an hour standing up or sitting in a hard chair.

* Time constraints - many people can't afford to put in the time required due to children, 2nd shift workers, those who are required to work overtime, hospital workers etc.

Vote totals are always in question as they are collected in the most primitive of ways. The system is ripe for cheating as there is little way to verify if said unscrupulous activity has occurred.

I can't think of anything more undemocratic that the caucus system. I do think it's fine to have a caucus system if that's traditional, but each of those states should, in addition, have a regular primary vote for the large percentage of people who can't participate in the caucus system for one reason or the other.

tritsofme

(17,371 posts)
21. Caucuses are horribly un-democratic and should be eliminated.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:15 AM
Mar 2016

A system that disenfranchises working people and does not respect the secret ballot has no place in the Democratic nomination process.

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