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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:18 AM Mar 2016

Apparently voter suppression is A-OK if your candidate wins.

That's what we're getting from the Hillary camp, as they ridicule those who say that something fishy happened in AZ last night.

We've known voter suppression is a problem in this country; the GOP has made no attempt to hide their desire to disenfranchise voters in the states they control. The Supreme Court even helped them out last year. We also have evidence that votes can be manipulated via windows-based voting machine software. The attempt to rig elections in a variety of ways has been going on for a long time and Hillary's campaign has been able to exploit the infrastructure and laws that are in place.

If Hillary is the nominee, I don't want to hear her supporters cry foul during the GE when the tables are turned. Not a peep.







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Apparently voter suppression is A-OK if your candidate wins. (Original Post) Avalux Mar 2016 OP
Or just making crap up is ok if you candidate is losing?! Just sayin, some of this is starting to uponit7771 Mar 2016 #1
I'll remember you said this if Hillary makes it to the GE. n/t Avalux Mar 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Mar 2016 #7
I've been bookmarking these threads myself. frylock Mar 2016 #14
They will simply blame "the left" as usual LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #16
Of course they will. frylock Mar 2016 #17
How much did you complain about disenfranchisement due to caucuses and the irregularities geek tragedy Mar 2016 #2
Exactly the way bigotry is acceptable to Trump followers... polichick Mar 2016 #3
Democrats have been fighting voter suppression on many fronts Gothmog Mar 2016 #5
I'm in Texas too and I've been active as well. Avalux Mar 2016 #6
Which lawsuit? There are so many Gothmog Mar 2016 #12
A link to the Victory Counsel program would be great. Avalux Mar 2016 #24
K&R for exposure. And for truth. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #8
There was no voter suppression. People were able to vote 1 month early. If voters did not know Pisces Mar 2016 #9
People DID know, and changed registration in time. frylock Mar 2016 #15
there was a deadline, you will find that most of the complaints will be end user error Pisces Mar 2016 #18
Did you even fucking read what I posted? frylock Mar 2016 #23
Reducing the polling places by likely Republican officials is more than boneheaded alarimer Mar 2016 #20
You even have "some" trying hard to coin the phrase "Camp Conspiracy Theory" Snotcicles Mar 2016 #10
Are you going to throw the same tantrum in November? Hereiam2005 Mar 2016 #11
Voter Suppression jmousso75 Mar 2016 #13
.+10 840high Mar 2016 #30
Lots of degenerate things seem to be A-ok as long as she wins. nt nc4bo Mar 2016 #19
Just watch them all cry like babies when the Repubs use the same tactics in the General Election! TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #21
BullS**t meme of the day ... you win!!!! JoePhilly Mar 2016 #22
Sign The WH.gov Petition And Let The Deniers Deny corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #25
lolwut? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #26
No your not. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #27
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #28
It's almost painful how disconnected from reality they giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #29
Bernie supporters are implying Trenzalore Mar 2016 #31

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
1. Or just making crap up is ok if you candidate is losing?! Just sayin, some of this is starting to
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:23 AM
Mar 2016

... sound like a cruel joke.

Response to Avalux (Reply #4)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
14. I've been bookmarking these threads myself.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

They'll be presented to all the whiny sore losers when their candidate is effected by election fraud.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. How much did you complain about disenfranchisement due to caucuses and the irregularities
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

in Utah last night?

Speaking of hypocrisy ...

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
5. Democrats have been fighting voter suppression on many fronts
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016

Even with early voting in Texas, we had people waiting 2 hours to vote at both of the polling locations where my two daughters were serving as election judges. Most of the problems described are due to the fact that Arizona is under GOP control and the GOP wants to make it hard to vote.

This week, Marc Elias, Hillary Clinton's top election law lawyer, argued a case on racial gerrymandering of Virginia's congressional district before the SCOTUS. Marc is also suing Ohio and North Carolina on various voter suppression tricks being used. In Texas we are suing on voter id, redistricting and compliance with the Motor Voter law. There has been calls for the Clinton volunteer lawyer group on voter protection and I understand that more lawsuits may be filed.

Stopping voter suppression is not easy. People are working on it. I worked on a program in 2014 that helped a couple of hundred voters get voter ids but that program had no funding and a couple of hundred voters is a drop in the ocean considering that at least 600,000 registered voters and 1.3 million eligible voters lack the required ids.

If you want to help, please volunteer. While I like posting on DU, I find it more rewarding to work in the real world on these issues.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
6. I'm in Texas too and I've been active as well.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:31 AM
Mar 2016

Would you send me info on the lawsuit filed here in Texas? I'd appreciate it.

Thanks for your thoughful post.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
12. Which lawsuit? There are so many
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:59 AM
Mar 2016

The latest is the Texas Civil Rights Association lawsuit on mother voter. Mimi used to head up voter protection at Battleground Texas has been working on this for a while http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-sued-over-voter-registration-policies-n538176 Chad Dunn is one of the lead attorneys in both the Voter id and redistricting lawsuits. Here is a link to all of the briefs and filings in the voter id case http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/VeaseyV.Perry.php Here is a link to the filings and briefs in the Texas redistricting case http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/PerezVTexas.php

If you want to volunteer for voter protection, I can post a link or PM you with a link to the Victory Counsel program

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
24. A link to the Victory Counsel program would be great.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

Thank you - I am definitely interested in volunteering.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
9. There was no voter suppression. People were able to vote 1 month early. If voters did not know
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

it was a closed primary that is because they were first time Independent voters. This was not a new rule. Sorry the
campaigns were lax in letting their voters in on the rules. Nobody got cheated.

The only issue would be the the cutting down of 200 polling sites to 60. That was boneheaded.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
15. People DID know, and changed registration in time.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

They confirmed that their party preference had been changed from the SoS website. When they arrived to the polls, some people discovered that their status had not been changed, or changed to Republican rather than Democrat.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
23. Did you even fucking read what I posted?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:22 PM
Mar 2016

Yes, by all means, continue to blame the voters. GOTV! can't wait for this to happen again in November. Reap the whirlwind.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
20. Reducing the polling places by likely Republican officials is more than boneheaded
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:09 PM
Mar 2016

It's a calculated effort to reduce turnout. Republicans pull this crap when they are in charge and where it mostly affects Democrats.

But that said, I don't believe they should ever close the polls or declare a winner until everyone in line has voted; I don't care who they vote for or how long that takes.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
10. You even have "some" trying hard to coin the phrase "Camp Conspiracy Theory"
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:42 AM
Mar 2016

Seems to be the go to option when trying to cover something up now. Stifle discussion, it just might go away.

Hereiam2005

(23 posts)
11. Are you going to throw the same tantrum in November?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:52 AM
Mar 2016

Elections in Arizona are governed by the county recorder, who determines how many polling places are actually open on Election Day.
The recorder in Pima County, which houses Tucson, had twice as many polling locations open than in Maricopa County. And Pima County is roughly one-third the size of Maricopa County.
Maricopa County Recorder Helen Purcell was responsible for the reduction in polling places in 2016, justifying it by saying turnout was traditionally low, so the solution was to reduce the number of places where citizens could cast their vote.
http://usuncut.com/politics/5-examples-voter-suppression-arizona-primary/

And surprise: Helen Purcell is a Republican.
http://recorder.maricopa.gov/recorder/

There are voter suppression, sure. The DNC has nothing to do with it though.
The only way to fix it is to elect a Democrat in November.

Unless you just want to throw tantrums at whoever nearest to you whenever something doesn't go your way.

 

jmousso75

(71 posts)
13. Voter Suppression
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

Voter suppression isn't good for anyone, democrat or republican. That makes us no better than a banana republic. Hillary's silence says a lot..........I'm so disappointed in the democratic party ......they should have been all over this Arizona thing...........I guess as long as Hillary's voters can vote...

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
27. No your not.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:48 PM
Mar 2016

Many have said there were major issues yesterday. We just find the hyperbole that Sanders supporters were intentionally disenfranchised by the HRC campaign ludicrous.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
28. LOL ...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:01 PM
Mar 2016

It's another example of how SOME, i.e., a certain segment of DU, translation what they interpret from the inference of what someone else said.

Example: "Sanders' economic primacy misses with the mainstream of the Black electorate, which places a higher priority on social equality."

"No, it doesn't. Bernie says, and I agree, economic equality will lead to social equality."

"Well, That may be Bernie's belief; but, that has not been my experience. My experience has it that putting more money in my pocket, does nothing to bring me closer to social equality."

"Why are you calling Bernie a racist?"

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
31. Bernie supporters are implying
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:28 PM
Mar 2016

That somehow, Hillary Clinton conspired with the republican legislature and governor...two entities that absolutely hate her to screw Sanders.

Arizona should be an issue because McCain is weak in the fall. Not because Bernie supporters think they got screwed.

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