as smart as him.

Not having seen the interview - I don't know. But I think we've all seen the gobbledegook journalists throw at him.

He's a real person, unlike some other politicians!

Bernie's got nowhere near the intellect of Barack Obama, Hillary or Bill Clinton. He's a moderately smart guy who has been stuck in an intellectual rut since 1968.

Absolutely nailed it.

Senator Sanders has shown much better judgment than the ones you name and is the best candidate for the 99 percent. If you want candidates that are war hawks and will bankrupt our empire go with the ones you praise.

In the first place, there is no real metric that could be used. It is not a measure of what they know on detailed subject matter. On any given subject, there will be many experts who could provide more accurate, more detailed facts. Even if weight is given for creativity and ability to innovate, a person's intelligence will not be uniform over all things. (Even at this level, I see HRC more as the student, who studies hard and gets the "A", not the student, who is less diligent, but creates something profoundly different and insightful. Put another way, it is the difference between intelligent and brilliant. )

In addition, it is really judgment, vision and the ability to put a diverse group of advisers together and to ask them the right questions. Then they need, what might be the most important ability - they need to weigh the various arguments and to then make a clear decision. An added plus, is the ability to continue getting information and reassessing results after a decision is implements and having the courage needed to change course when indicated. I think it was brilliant of Obama if he was the one to suggest that Dr Moniz and Secretary Kerry work closely together on the Iran deal - I have never seen a team like that before. In addition, it was brilliant to include Pope Francis as an ally on changing policy on Cuba and, as we learned recently, helping Columbia make peace with FARC. )

Another important trait, whether working with Congress and internationally, is diplomatic skill. Here, I mean having the ability to listen to people at odds with each other and to HEAR what they are saying and craft compromises that can get people to work together.

However, it is not intelligence, wisdom, temperament, or strength of character that are the top skills in getting elected - though all would be pluses. There is a whole different set of skills that could be called POLITICAL skills.

you have got to be kidding me. He's ok not even close to other presidential candidates like Clinton or ugh cruz.

- JaneyVee

it's called GIVE and TAKE, and each of them did some giving and taking, and anyone listening could learn somethings.

Bernie voted for more war and war funding than anyone running. Bernie bowed down to gun industry corporations and Lockheed Martin. Bernie introduced climate bills that only further regulated fracking but not ban it.

Oh, and he's also the only candidate running who voted to deregulate Wall Street.

What does that make you?

You realize when you say ridiculous statements like that it shreds your credibility to pieces, right? But what do you care, youre not here for discussion.

Every time you guys post that she moved up on the list.

She keeps moving up the list for some reason...

He voted to go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan after he attacked us and then to intervene in a genocide in Bosnia.

You have a problem with those votes but not with Hillary's vote for Iraq?

Bernie believes that military intervention should be used as a last resort.

It sure is sea.

Instead of hiding behind implications that are based on internet memes such as 'Bernie voted for more wars/military spending/is just as much of a hawk as Hillary' etc.

If you really believe that you should be able to back it up with facts and not more memes.

Why do you want to spread disinformation and smears and when called on it post more disinfo as if that makes it alright?

Kosovo War, Afghanistan, Sanders supported only a gradual withdrawal from Iraq. Sanders supported the resolution that gave support to George W. Bush in both Iraq and in the larger war against terrorism. Sanders has supported Israel’s aggressive Middle East policies against Palestinian statehood. Sanders supported HR 282, the Iran Freedom Support Act, which was similar to the resolutions leading to the Iraq War. And Sanders has stated that he too would use drones.

Someone who sees war as a last resort and only agrees to use force when justifiable isn't a "pacifist".

Now let's get to the rest of your claims:

And I'm waiting for you to explain the rest of your post.

If you can't just say so and we're done.

But I'm used to being disappointed.

Cue in.... I stopped reading at outrageous. See how that works.

If you can't back up your claims don't make them.

Watch out! She has a gang of useless links to use to confuse the issue!

After the anti-Semitic bile you posted at a right wing hate site you have no credibility.

When a person repeatedly smears a member of a minority group and then is found to have prejudices against that minority group they should expect people to call them on it.

But I see you have no problem with the targeting of a minority woman with racist diatribes and bullying and stalking. Nothing to say about that. I see you piling on. Maybe you are the one who has the issues. I am accepting of my flaw and will seek out answers and forgiveness. You guys? Refuse to see yourselves for what you are and project your crap onto me. If one more of my relatives or friends are contacted I know where to direct the authorities to start looking. At those who keep posting my info in a targeted harassment campaign. This pile on and swarm harassment, doxing and stalking is disgusting and offensive.

And I still don't know why you're bringing up something else that may or may not have happened when it's irrelevant to the discussion.

Who is it that is going around to all of my social media account and leaving posts and contacting jy contacts, BMUS? This is disgusting and behaviour reminicent of night rides and reconstruction. And you just pile on and delight in it. How shameful for you. Bernie would be so proud. I should spam him with these links and the racist messages my people are getting.

And I would report those incidents to Skinner, if they actually happened I'm sure he'll ban whoever did that.

I am not like those who will just jump on and start condemning. I think it is a group effort and I want you to just tell me who it is. That is way more fucking important than a fucking post or this damn primary. I want to know, NOW. Just tell me.

Tell Skinner and I'm sure he'll ban them, no one should be posting persoanl information about others here.

Why don't you post links to the incidents here and I'll send it to him?

I sent it to him. Nothing. So I am goung to keep asking every damn body who participated to just tell the damn truth. I will let it go if you just tell me. Then you can bash me for fun uf you want to. But I want to know who it is. And you saw them posting my damn name. Stop acting brand new and tell me which one it is. I'll shut up. Just tell me. Nothing to fear. Just tell.

Post the link and I'll be happy to alert on it now.

I know you know

You gonna pretend you did not see my full fucking name posted over and over by your buddies? Go look on my apology thread bmus. Unless u are just faking like proof matters. The proof is there. That's why I deleted the fucking thread. My name posted over and fucking over on it while I'm trying to make amends. Made me no longer feel so into it and just upset even more.

But you enjoy pretending that nothing is wrong with that disgusting pile on and posting of my fucking name and that you saw nothing. I am used to the see nothings. They always see nothing when racism against blacks happen but see everything wrong that a black person does. And they Wanna talk credibility.

Go look unless you are being dishonest about wanting proof. I think it is in my journal. Go look. Then you can alert them and tell me WHO

Post the links so we can take it to Skinner, there's no way he would allow people to do that here.

Kos does not have privacy like du and linking to kos links to my full name. They know that if they are on kos. The messages started after they linked to my profile which left me open to harassment off site. This is why stalking and doxxing is prohibited in other places. You guys got so excited that you posted my fucking full name. Linked to my profile with my fucking info over nd over lije it was okay because I am so damn evil over one comment.

It is sad to see people mining the internet to troll for comment to take back to another site, and do not give one shit that they are distributing that persons private info over and over and over and over and over.

You should contact the other website, I don't post there and haven't linked to that site so I wouldn't know about their policies.

But if anyone ever does post your name here you should alert on them and then pm Skinner, that's not allowed.

Linking to my FULL FUCKING NAME IS POSTING MY FULL FUCKING NAME. Fuck technicalities. It was pure wrong to link to my full fuckinb info. THAT IS POSTING IT.

Maybe you should contact the other website.

I don't post there so I have no idea what information is available.

She did it deliberately.

I have posted at Kos for years and her profile is the only one ive ever seen where someone put up their real name. She actually starts her profile there proudly proclaiming her arrival.

First she claimed that we posted her FULL name over and over again and that wasn't true. She said we posted her personal private information, also not true, and finally she claimed people posted a direct link to her name and personal info and that also turned out to be bullshit.

She accuses other posters of stalking her and/or posting info that allows other to do so when none of that ever happened.

Imo this is just a way to try to prevent people from discussing the vile hate speech she posted at a right wing site.

Very convenient.

But a lot people seem to fall for it.

made me think she's Debbie Wasserman-Schultz or something.

You had to have done it yourself.

own name. Perhaps there may be a narcissist or two, or known public figures who want to promote themseves, out there at Kos using their own names, but I didn't see any.

She voluntarily put her own info out there (for what purpose?) and now it is coming back to bite her in the you-know-where.

That Kos doesn't require anyone to post their real name on their profile.

And lol, I deliberately didn't link to my Kos profile page as I enjoy the fact nobody's cottoned on to who I am there.

and posted the link here herself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511436714#post16

or was part of some grand conspiracy to out her real name and ID?

Pretty craptastic.

on Kos!
Posted here Mar 7 at at 4:52 pm DU time (eastern). Not sure what time she was outed at Kos, or what time zone shows on posts there, but I know it happened that evening.

bring your writings - with link - over here as OP's.

WTF are you going on about?

Registration there using your real name is optional - I'm there, I know. You can change or delete it at ANY TIME. YOU choose to have your name in your profile and you choose not to change it. This is some sick game, right?

You also hunted down personal information on a poster right here on this board you accused of not being black. Including a picture and news article. Did you forget about that?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=757635

They searched far and wide for something to use.