If he even raises his voice about anything..it will not be against t-rump....

...it might be an overall sign on how the RNC and the so called "establishment" republicans feel about this. People that are much less squeamish than Ryan might help pull the plug soon.

Although, I have been watching a lot of House of Cards lately and I wonder if such a spineless person can really rise to the rank of Speaker of the House. Maybe in public he is a weak little shitstain but he might be much more devious behind the scenes.

the discipline to try to do what he thought would work best for the party and the Kochs.

From what I'm reading, this should simplify matters significantly for him now. Hiring a far-right extremist like Bannon, who loathes Ryan and wants to take him out, and reportedly to take over the party for his purist ideology, is a declaration of war.

(Gee, could they take out Ryan?)

Trump could change his mind next week, but Bannon apparently comes with money from a billionaire admirer named Mercer. Likely no Bannon, no money.

...by the time 2020 comes around and he's looking to run against President Clinton.

Yes, I agree that Ryan is desperately trying to figure out what tact will give him the best shot in 2020.

Yeah, whatever. You can complain and be enraged but unless you you withdraw your support and your vote then it don't mean shit.

We all know he wants to run in 2020. The voter rigging operation the republicans have might stay silent this time around. They aren't going to help trump get elected this time around.

And he responded with this hearty FU.

But I want 1000 to 1 odds.

My first thought was the exact same, they told him to toe the line, he went right out and figured out how to send them a message.

They are feeling safe now that they can privately cut him off yet not publicly rip him. It will be the Dems job to tie his Orange head around Ryan's and McConnel's head

Now he will have to sleep in it.

Hey Ryan! You bought that!

it is alive and well, it gets crazier every day. This will be a year to remember. I know we have lots of work to do, GOTV is so important this year, we could change the Senate back to a Democratic majority and make it much easier for Hillary to nominate good judges and dump some of the RW laws.

I thought Trump was just another Bush*, a mere narcissistic total disaster for our country who would follow his coaching cues and maybe lie his way into being close enough to steal it.

But I was so terribly, horribly wrong. He's the second coming of Benito Mussolini, but without the talent. There is nothing in his universe outside of himself, and he'll destroy everything if he can, just to say he did. A truly dangerous, astonishingly incompetent person who knows better than most that it's all fluff and showbiz--at least the election part.

For the rest of my life, every four years, I'm going to have to watch another Hitler-let plot to destroy America. We will never be rid of Donald Trump and his mephitic legacy.

What the hell does that mean?

This will be fun to watch

Much as I can't stand The Apricot Hellbeast, there is a part of me that is smiling that he is giving the GOP Establishment a hearty "Fuck You"

Sorry, it's the science geek in me.

I remember the conservative Christians walking around with their chests all puffed out when lil' Bush was directed to the White House by Scalia and friends. Pat Robertson and the whole right white god squad would endlessly proclaim that Georgie boy was a true man of Christ, and that god's good invisible hand was running through all things republican. The pagan democrats could burn in hell for all they cared. Saint Sarah didn't bring a heavenly intervention, and poor Mittens - he's not from the right denomination. Now along comes STFU Donny and hardly a word about how god is working his magical loving ways through the republican party.

I love to tell these people (with a straight face) that I fully believe that god has chosen Hillary and if Jesus were here in person he'd vote for her. The looks on their faces are friggin' priceless - it just doesn't fit anything they've been told, or heard, or believed in the last 2 decades plus.

It was Bush religious nuts but when that become unpopular, they were Palin "maverick" conservatives, and once Obama won, they all become small government, low debt tea party members, then pro-business Romney republicans, and now they are anti-Bush, anti-establishment Trumpicans. Whenever one of their identities falls apart, they take on a new one and claim that the old republicans didn't represent them. They are shallow, single minded bigots that are out of touch with the 21st century. Once Trump fails, wait for them to all morph again and all claim that they never supported trump and now they are "Blue Whistle Conservatives" or "Paul Henry Republicans" or some other random thing that I probably made up.

They are now in a decades long identity crisis and it is tearing their party apart because 65% of people that aren't republicans are looking in and saying "what the fuck are they talking about now?".

Just wait until they find out about the flying spaghetti monster and those pesky pastafarians! Part of why these people gained so much clout is that sensible people (both religious and not religious types) stood by silently when the Falwells and Robertsons and Grahams made horrid after horrid pronouncements and declarations. The left behind bullshit only added to the pile.

There's a number of us, who have never minded wallowing in the mud with these people. I know, if you wrestle with a pig you're liable to end up sweaty and dirty plus the pig might like it, but WTH - I don't give these people and their dangerous ideas an inch my way.

That's what Ryan can do.

Ryan is weak and afraid. Trump uses Ryan as toilet paper