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tom_kelly

(957 posts)
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 03:22 PM Aug 2016

A Sobering Snapshot from South Florida

I was just at the local car wash here in Boca Raton - border of south Palm Beach County and north Broward County. This area is as wealthy as wealthy can be. The attendant was conducting a poll asking each customer who they were planning to vote for in this presidential election. It looked as though he had about 150 replys. Trump had about 70% and Clinton 25% with maybe 5% neither.

As a Bernie supporter, up until probably 2 weeks ago I would have guaranteed with money that I would not vote for Hillary, or Trump. I've since come to grips with reality and am solidly behind Hillary. No matter how we ended up where we are, this is where we're at. And, we better make damned sure nothing is taken for granted.


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A Sobering Snapshot from South Florida (Original Post) tom_kelly Aug 2016 OP
aawwwkk! PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #1
As a former Bernie supporter, I agree wholeheartedly.. appleannie1 Aug 2016 #2
You can be a Bernie supporter AND a Clinton supporter at the same time gilpo Aug 2016 #3
Geez Louise, gilpo, I've been for Hillary all the way and I feel the same. kstewart33 Aug 2016 #17
You sound concerned about Hillary Democat Aug 2016 #4
It has to be, since it's one of the bluest areas in the entire country obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #12
Seriously? The attendant conducted a who-ya-voting-for poll? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #5
If it sounds like a "concern" thread Democat Aug 2016 #6
True. The attendant was probably making what? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #8
Pleease check my reply downthread obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #11
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #20
Isn't That area a white segregated area of Florida with upper middle class people? kimbutgar Aug 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #13
I was trying to trap the poster kimbutgar Aug 2016 #14
My uncle lived in Century Village in a condo that must have cost $50,000.00 DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #24
There's a Century Village marybourg Aug 2016 #32
I see there is. And I looked up both marybourg Aug 2016 #33
Yeah... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #35
Boca is mostly white and largely middle class, but demographically it's all over the board. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #38
Something stinks lillypaddle Aug 2016 #9
I'm your neighbor, and everyone I know is voting for HRC obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #10
I guess it depends where in FL DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #29
PBC, Broward, and Miami-Dade are very, very blue obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #42
But there are red pockets . DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #45
They only get one vote each. Just like everyone else. lpbk2713 Aug 2016 #15
Ya Boca is full of idiots alright GusBob Aug 2016 #16
Also Florida.....where many cars are up on blocks Mira Aug 2016 #18
They are as proud of the junk on their lawn as they are of tRump, it appears. marble falls Aug 2016 #21
Perhaps they like to be mired in shit? TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #41
They've made a good start at it. marble falls Aug 2016 #46
Holy broadbrush, Batman. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #37
No intention of personal offense. Mira Aug 2016 #39
Charity begins at home? If this guy wants to "Make America Great Again" start with his shithole yard TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #40
I'm not worried about this. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #19
I hope Hill El Shaman Aug 2016 #26
They should conduct a poll at Century Village. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #22
Most likely but I don't live there. tom_kelly Aug 2016 #23
as well they should obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #43
Just flew out of the Tampa airport yesterday Scalded Nun Aug 2016 #25
You'd think that too if you only listened to white men (and women) in my area Dem2 Aug 2016 #27
Do a poll of people who know how to wash their own cars! Coyotl Aug 2016 #28
Your concern is duly noted nt. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #30
There are exclusive and inclusive Protalker Aug 2016 #31
Fellow Boca resident here genxlib Aug 2016 #34
Are you sure the car wash attendant wasn't just a big Trump fan and was pumping up his candidate? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #36
Yup, agreed obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #44

appleannie1

(5,062 posts)
2. As a former Bernie supporter, I agree wholeheartedly..
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 03:27 PM
Aug 2016

I fear complacency and spite. Either one could hand the victory to Trump.

gilpo

(707 posts)
3. You can be a Bernie supporter AND a Clinton supporter at the same time
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 03:53 PM
Aug 2016

I am still 100% behind his message while wanting whole heartedly that Clinton beats Trump to a pulp (figuratively of course).

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
17. Geez Louise, gilpo, I've been for Hillary all the way and I feel the same.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 05:04 PM
Aug 2016

I completely support Bernie's message and always have. I'd wager that many long-time Hillary supporters feel the same.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
12. It has to be, since it's one of the bluest areas in the entire country
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 04:12 PM
Aug 2016

I live here. The OP doesn't reflect the reality here.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
5. Seriously? The attendant conducted a who-ya-voting-for poll?
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 03:58 PM
Aug 2016

I find it hard to believe someone would do that on the job. Very hard to believe.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
8. True. The attendant was probably making what?
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 04:03 PM
Aug 2016

$8.50 per hour at a busy car wash? Yeah, I just don't see it.

Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #11)

kimbutgar

(21,060 posts)
7. Isn't That area a white segregated area of Florida with upper middle class people?
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 03:59 PM
Aug 2016

Cheeto's demographic?

Response to kimbutgar (Reply #7)

marybourg

(12,600 posts)
33. I see there is. And I looked up both
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 09:14 PM
Aug 2016

Broward and Palm Beach counties' votes in 2012 and both went heavily for Obama. So maybe this car wash was in a peculiarly Publican neighborhood. Or maybe they were pulling the attendant's leg.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
38. Boca is mostly white and largely middle class, but demographically it's all over the board.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 09:07 AM
Aug 2016

Along the ocean and Intercoastal it's mostly downright wealthy. The more western portions of the city limits are middle middle class. Then to the west of the city limits you have a mix of middle to upper middle class planned communities with a lot of families, a few large retirement communities, and some heavily Jewish communities. Believe it or not, there are a handful of lower income areas, but those are mostly few and far between....there is one trailer community that I know of that has a klansman who flies his Klan flag over his trailer proudly, but from all reports his neighbors don't care much for that.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
10. I'm your neighbor, and everyone I know is voting for HRC
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 04:10 PM
Aug 2016

A very, very few for Trump, a very few for Johnson. Where we live is as blue as anyone in the whole USA.

Your experience doesn't reflect the reality of SOFL.

Interesting story.

lpbk2713

(42,744 posts)
15. They only get one vote each. Just like everyone else.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 04:27 PM
Aug 2016



And the Privileged Class is a small minority. So I'm not
going to worry about what they are going to do.


GusBob

(7,286 posts)
16. Ya Boca is full of idiots alright
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 04:35 PM
Aug 2016

Hillary will win Broward county by 2 touchdowns and a field goal


Lol Boca car wash fucking stupid

Mira

(22,380 posts)
18. Also Florida.....where many cars are up on blocks
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 05:39 PM
Aug 2016

where I saw more trailers in one day than usually I see in a year, and where almost every single store is a dollar store.
Was driving there day before yesterday and took this photograph.



(I'll be driving through Boco Ratan in the morning

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
37. Holy broadbrush, Batman.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 08:52 AM
Aug 2016

Based on the zip code, I'm assuming that picture was taken near Gainesville. The rural outlying areas where that picture was taken are all red but probably a half hour from that you get to Gainesville, a solidly blue, forward thinking progressive city. But you just keep on trashing an entire state, okay?

Also, not sure if you were being sarcastic with your spelling, but yeah.....

Mira

(22,380 posts)
39. No intention of personal offense.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 10:23 AM
Aug 2016

I was driving in the area of Palatka, and headed South to Eustis. I very much enjoyed the bucolic sights

and was happy to be away from the busy highways of the coastal areas that do not allow exploration of Florida's landscape.
What did I misspell? English is my second language, and the learning never ends.

TheBlackAdder

(28,169 posts)
40. Charity begins at home? If this guy wants to "Make America Great Again" start with his shithole yard
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 12:58 PM
Aug 2016

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
19. I'm not worried about this.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 05:46 PM
Aug 2016

in 2012, Obama took Palm Beach County, 58.3% vs. Romnut's 41.8%.

It's a solidly Democratic area. I chalk up the results to the fact that we're only talk about an unscientific straw pool here.

tom_kelly

(957 posts)
23. Most likely but I don't live there.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:05 PM
Aug 2016

Just relaying an experience today. Some here are jumping shit about it. Oh well.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
25. Just flew out of the Tampa airport yesterday
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:22 PM
Aug 2016

While sitting around waiting for the flight I heard the some of the wildest crazy shit I've ever heard (and I am from Texas!) and how it is all Hillary's fault. The depth of ignorance was breathtaking.
Now, I am still not a Hillary supporter (although I will vote for her), but where they come up with this shit is something I'll never figure out.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
27. You'd think that too if you only listened to white men (and women) in my area
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:30 PM
Aug 2016

Thank god the loudest don't get more than one vote!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
28. Do a poll of people who know how to wash their own cars!
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:35 PM
Aug 2016

There won't be a Trumper in the lot of them.

Protalker

(418 posts)
31. There are exclusive and inclusive
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 08:40 PM
Aug 2016

People and places. My family lived in Del Ray at A1A and George Bush. They are exclusive nice people and Republicans. I an an inclusive social worker and a Democrat. I think there are more of us than them.

genxlib

(5,518 posts)
34. Fellow Boca resident here
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:21 PM
Aug 2016

All of the car wash places I know in BOCA are in the east where there is a fair bit of money. It would not surprise me if trump was winning in the "get-others-to-wash-my-car" demographic.

I also find a lot of contractors living in my area and I find them to be super conservative. Something about that intersection between high wages without advanced education.

I would just prefer to act as if the race is tied so that every vote is needed. Because it is needed down ballot.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
36. Are you sure the car wash attendant wasn't just a big Trump fan and was pumping up his candidate?
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 08:49 AM
Aug 2016

Did you actually sit there and watch the guy poll every customer, or did you just take his word for it?

Trust me, Boca, Palm Beach County and South Florida are not going for Trump.

My money's on the entire state of Florida going blue for the third presidential election in a row.

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