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madaboutharry

(40,205 posts)
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 08:59 AM Aug 2016

Trump: "Deportation Force" To Be Announced

Are they fucking kidding? Kelleyanne Conway said they are going to announce plans to form a Deportation Force to address illegal immigration. These people are nuts.

Immigration issues are now dealt with under the umbrella of Homeland Security.

What powers will this new "Deportation Force" possess? And will they be wearing brown shirts?

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Trump: "Deportation Force" To Be Announced (Original Post) madaboutharry Aug 2016 OP
Reminiscent of WWII all over again. Different people, times, locations, but SOS!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2016 #1
Do they get snazzy red armbands C_U_L8R Aug 2016 #2
Sounding more like Nazi Germany every day liberal N proud Aug 2016 #3
Actually it's not oberliner Aug 2016 #31
Provide somethnic to suggest otherwise. liberal N proud Aug 2016 #52
Trump is a millioniare buffoon with no deeply held political convictions of any kind oberliner Aug 2016 #53
Both are/were fascist liberal N proud Aug 2016 #55
Why do I picture Chuck Norris heading up this "Force" Siwsan Aug 2016 #4
Better: Steven Seagal driving a fucking tank through America! randome Aug 2016 #5
Pair them up, and all bets are off! Siwsan Aug 2016 #8
I'm picturing Meatloaf and Gary Busey in Justice League spandex. TeamPooka Aug 2016 #47
Is this something you can sign up for... brooklynite Aug 2016 #6
But apparently they'll be "humane." Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #7
The era of Big Government is ended! randome Aug 2016 #9
We need less government Democat Aug 2016 #10
Fuck these people. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #11
They have the template OnDoutside Aug 2016 #12
Trump, is an extremely dangerous and evil person! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2016 #15
and pig ignorant to boot anamandujano Aug 2016 #16
Yep, he's a total combination of many dangerous things, a packaged deal of danger to any democracy RKP5637 Aug 2016 #23
This is ridiculous and insulting oberliner Aug 2016 #32
You're either defending the Nazis or Trump all over this thread, but either way I stand by my OnDoutside Aug 2016 #40
Defending the Nazis? oberliner Aug 2016 #41
Actually it's normally quite hard to find an accurate comparison but this is such a case. OnDoutside Aug 2016 #43
Jean Marie Le Pen would be an accurate comparison oberliner Aug 2016 #45
ONLY where he is now. Both would attract the Nazi comparison for where they want to go, and that's OnDoutside Aug 2016 #46
Trump is a buffoon with no deeply held political convictions of any kind oberliner Aug 2016 #48
Hitler did indeed have convictions but no less a buffoon. He gathered around him people who were OnDoutside Aug 2016 #51
Here's a link. RKP5637 Aug 2016 #13
How can anyone DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #14
Apparently there is one on this thread. OnDoutside Aug 2016 #44
Springtime for ... napkinz Aug 2016 #17
There it is. Another Trump TV Ad writing itself. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #20
and all the media can talk about today is "Hillary's Emails!" napkinz Aug 2016 #21
Yup. Pretty darn pathetic when that old dredged up nothing is all they have left. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #24
$137 Billion? Whose gonna pay for that? Moonwalk Aug 2016 #26
it would help if reporters would ask FOLLOW-UP questions when he makes these proposals napkinz Aug 2016 #30
The Hitler comparison is not approrpriate oberliner Aug 2016 #34
Anne Frank's Stepsister: Trump 'Is Acting Like Hitler': Holocaust Survivors Warn of Historical Paral napkinz Aug 2016 #35
As I said, it is a go-to analogy for a lot of folks oberliner Aug 2016 #36
when Holocaust survivors talk, I think we should listen napkinz Aug 2016 #39
There were Holocaust survivors who compared Jesse Jackson to Hitler oberliner Aug 2016 #42
I hear you, oberliner...What's instructive is how fascists gain power... VOX Aug 2016 #50
Let me guess, they will do this before the rigged election to stop them from voting 10 times. Coyotl Aug 2016 #18
Trump's Deportation Force in action.... workinclasszero Aug 2016 #19
Saying "Please" makes all the difference... brooklynite Aug 2016 #33
... napkinz Aug 2016 #22
There he is. The future of Trump's Great America misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #25
I don't think Trump will go with brown shirts. Likely he'll hire Bundy ranch types.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #27
The Oath Keepers will be the SS and the right wing bagger militias workinclasszero Aug 2016 #28
A kinder, gentler deportation force is the new narrative. Coyotl Aug 2016 #29
Brownshirts? JaneyVee Aug 2016 #37
They were the paramilitary wing of the nazi party. madaboutharry Aug 2016 #49
Wait, isn't this on the heels just moonscape Aug 2016 #38
And how will that fucking work? bluestateguy Aug 2016 #54
Rudy will be in charge. sarcasmo Aug 2016 #56
... napkinz Aug 2016 #57
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
53. Trump is a millioniare buffoon with no deeply held political convictions of any kind
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 08:22 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Mon Aug 22, 2016, 09:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Hitler was a military veteran who served time in prison for his political beliefs. He wrote out, in great detail, his vision for what he thought Germany should be like and devoted his life from a very young age to political activism. He was a true believer, in every sense of the word. Of course, what he believed in so passionately, was the most vile, hateful ideology known to man.

Trump, on the other hand, avoided the military, had barely shown any interest in politics, has changed his positions from one day to the next, would rather make jokes than give a serious speech, and seems more interested in building his brand and making money than actually being president. He seems like he'd be quite happy playing golf and vacationing in Florida.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
55. Both are/were fascist
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 09:39 PM
Aug 2016

Trump would have no problem sending others to fight wars for him.

Trump is pretty vile and hateful. If given the opportunity, who know what he is capable of.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
4. Why do I picture Chuck Norris heading up this "Force"
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 09:05 AM
Aug 2016

Honestly, the instant I read that topic line, he bewigged face popped into my mind. Is it too early to start drinking??

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. Better: Steven Seagal driving a fucking tank through America!
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 09:08 AM
Aug 2016

Imagine the mayhem and dead dogs!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
7. But apparently they'll be "humane."
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 09:11 AM
Aug 2016

Which means....what? Pillows and hot towels as they bus you out after storming your home in the middle of the night?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. The era of Big Government is ended!
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 09:17 AM
Aug 2016

Well...
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
23. Yep, he's a total combination of many dangerous things, a packaged deal of danger to any democracy
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:22 PM
Aug 2016

and people, environment, everything.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
40. You're either defending the Nazis or Trump all over this thread, but either way I stand by my
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:29 PM
Aug 2016

comparison. Trump has Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists flocking to his campaign, has demonized and plans to deport 12 million people, using deportation squads. It's a pretty good comparison.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. Defending the Nazis?
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:31 PM
Aug 2016

Where on earth did you come up with that?

I despise Trump, but he is not Hitler.

Such a comparison is cheap and easy and not illustrative of reality.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
45. Jean Marie Le Pen would be an accurate comparison
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:53 PM
Aug 2016

But I guess most people don't know who that is.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
46. ONLY where he is now. Both would attract the Nazi comparison for where they want to go, and that's
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 06:09 PM
Aug 2016

the fear. Anyway, Jean Marie is a busted flush, Marine is the 21st century face of French/European Fascism.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
48. Trump is a buffoon with no deeply held political convictions of any kind
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 06:24 PM
Aug 2016

Hitler was the exact opposite.

This is just my opinion, but I don't think it's a valid comparison at all.

And if saying Trump is "not as bad as Hitler" counts as defending him, so be it.

There is a powerful strain of white nationalism in the US, unfortunately, that exists irrespective of Trump. To me, listening to the Breitbart types spew racism and hatred is what's really frightening.

Much like when Pat Buchanan had his little run (Although he, too, was smarter than Trump and actually had things he believed in, loathsome though they were).

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
51. Hitler did indeed have convictions but no less a buffoon. He gathered around him people who were
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 06:40 PM
Aug 2016

more skilful in carrying out his rabid thoughts, and again those similarities are striking. I don't think we should be afraid of making the comparison to Hitler when it's warranted. I think this is as clear an example as there has been in a while. I accept you don't agree, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
14. How can anyone
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 09:37 AM
Aug 2016

who even POSSIBLY looks at the orange turnip think he's anything but a fucking Nazi? "Humane Deportation Force" MY ASS!

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
20. There it is. Another Trump TV Ad writing itself.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:56 PM
Aug 2016

Hope he takes down the entire RW Senate & House with him in Nov.

This needs to be TV AD. History repeats itself

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
21. and all the media can talk about today is "Hillary's Emails!"
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:03 PM
Aug 2016

MSNBC and CNN have spent most of the morning talking about her Emails

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
24. Yup. Pretty darn pathetic when that old dredged up nothing is all they have left.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

The pathological minds of the RW Cult and the sickness of those that believe.


Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
26. $137 Billion? Whose gonna pay for that?
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:38 PM
Aug 2016

Trump's casinos? How can this possibly play as a good idea to even those who want every non-white-christian deported? They can't want to actually pay for it!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. The Hitler comparison is not approrpriate
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:19 PM
Aug 2016

I know it's the "go to" analogy these days, but it's really not right.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
35. Anne Frank's Stepsister: Trump 'Is Acting Like Hitler': Holocaust Survivors Warn of Historical Paral
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:23 PM
Aug 2016
Anne Frank's Stepsister: Trump 'Is Acting Like Hitler': Holocaust Survivors Warn of Historical Parallels
A critique that should chill all of us to the bone.


“If Donald Trump becomes the next president of the U.S. it would be a complete disaster,” author and Auschwitz survivor Eva Schloss states in a recent Newsweek op-ed marking International Holocaust Remembrance Day. Pointing to his promises to close the borders to Muslims and Mexicans, the 86-year-old Schloss, who is the stepsister of Anne Frank, sees disturbing parallels between the Republican frontrunner and a dangerous historical predecessor. “I think he is acting like another Hitler by inciting racism,” Schloss says. “Fewer people would have died in the Holocaust if the world had accepted more Jewish refugees.”

She is not the only Holocaust survivor who has observed Trump’s ascendancy with fear and foreboding. With “Don’t stand by” as the theme of this year’s observance of International Holocaust Remembrance Day, a number of survivors are speaking out about the ugliness of Trump’s message and those who have embraced it. These words of warning come as multiple polls indicate Trump currently holds comfortable leads among GOP voters in Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire.

“The guy scares me,” Martin Weiss, an 87-year-old Auschwitz survivor who lost most of his family in the camp, told the Washington Post. “I don’t want to make any comparison to Hitler, but believe it or not his delivery and the way he conducts himself is very similar to Hitler’s way of doing things. He discredits everybody who disagrees with him. He’s insulting. He discriminates against everybody.”

“It’s really frightening,” survivor Al Munzer told the newspaper. “When you see these mass rallies that Trump is able to attract, you really wonder: How are they buying into this message of hate?”

read more: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/anne-franks-stepsister-trump-acting-hitler-other-holocaust-survivors-warn-historical
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
36. As I said, it is a go-to analogy for a lot of folks
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:26 PM
Aug 2016

My view is that it is not appropriate.

There are much more illustrative examples of candidates like Trump throughout history.

Le Pen comes to mind.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
39. when Holocaust survivors talk, I think we should listen
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:27 PM
Aug 2016

I don't consider them just "a lot of folks."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. There were Holocaust survivors who compared Jesse Jackson to Hitler
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:42 PM
Aug 2016

There are different views among them. Just like every other group. There are some who don't think the comparison is valid and some who do.

Have you read "Against All Odds: Holocaust Survivors and the Successful Lives They Made in America" ?

That book came out in the early 1990s and several of the Holocaust survivors interviewed compared Jesse Jackson to Hitler (a comparison I also don't think is valid).

VOX

(22,976 posts)
50. I hear you, oberliner...What's instructive is how fascists gain power...
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 06:31 PM
Aug 2016

Both Mussolini and Hitler came to power in ways not altogether dissimilar to Trump's (and the right wing's) method: turn citizens against one another; demonize an entire religion; threaten to deport "undesirables"; draw core support (and muscle) from the more insulated regions of the country; over-the-top nationalism; blatant racism, sexism and hate for LGBTQ individuals; rampant xenophobia; anti-science and anti intellectualism; claim that only one man can make *your country here* great again, etc.

The similarities are horrifying in their implication. And, just like those despots of the last century, one has no idea of just how dark things are going to be down the road while still in the early stages of bluster and fast talk.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
18. Let me guess, they will do this before the rigged election to stop them from voting 10 times.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:52 PM
Aug 2016

Othering is a path only a small mind can walk.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
27. I don't think Trump will go with brown shirts. Likely he'll hire Bundy ranch types....
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:45 PM
Aug 2016

...and bikers--like he did to police the NRC. They like to dress in khaki and sunglasses, jeans and bullet proof vests. The modern survivalist look is what's "hip" among American fascists these days.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
28. The Oath Keepers will be the SS and the right wing bagger militias
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:51 PM
Aug 2016

will be the Stormtroopers in the TrumpenFührer's Amerika.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
38. Wait, isn't this on the heels just
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:26 PM
Aug 2016

days ago of trying to make nice with Hispanics during that meeting photo-op?

Wow.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
54. And how will that fucking work?
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 08:32 PM
Aug 2016

A bunch of pot-bellied, loser white men, with no law enforcement training, clad in red hats, bashing down doors of suspected illegal immigrants?

Let me gently suggest that I think there would be outright violent resistance to that throughout the country.

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