2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAuthor disputes Colin Powell's pseudo-denial of his dinner-table email discussion with Hillary
Colin Powell claims to have "no recollection" of a dinner table conversation with Hillary about his email, but he had previously confirmed the conversation to the author and it is in his book. Also, Hillary wasn't trying to "pin" anything on Powell. It wasn't Hillary who reported the conversation to the author -- it was multiple others. Hillary never discussed the conversation publicly.
But, the author says, Powell had a good reason to want to stay out of the spotlight on this issue, since he had deleted all of his emails on his AOL account -- and it is a fact that his AOL account WAS hacked. No evidence of hacking was found on Hillary's private server.
http://www.newsweek.com/did-colin-powell-advise-hillary-use-private-email-492376?rx=us
But last June, while reporting on Powells advice to Clinton for my book, I contacted his office for commentand got a very different answer.
His principal assistant, Margaret Peggy Cifrino, informed me then via email that their calendar showed that the Albright dinner had occurred in June 2009. While he didnt recall some details of the dinner because it had occurred seven years ago, according to Cifrino, he remembered what he did and didnt say to Clinton on the topic in question that evening:
So it is perplexing for him to say he doesnt remember that dinner conversation at all now, since, according to his own assistant, he remembered at least some of what he said as recently as two months ago.
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(52,196 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)running the My Lai massacre cover up.
I have never understood why anyone respects him.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)He has demonstrated not only his willingness to associate with war criminals and neocon marketeers; but he took even further steps by consciously LYING us in to a devastating invasion of Iraq that cost TRILLIONS, thousands of lives and destroyed human futures, and unleashed crimes against humanity that we will ALL bare the shame for for generations to come.
The Middle East today is a result of his cowardice act 15 years ago.
He lost his "hero status" for the rest of his time. Yes...a mild mannered, seemingly personable republican....but nothing more in my book. Nothing more.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Professionals play the cards they're dealt. You have the luxury of imagining now that you'd be too high-minded to do your job, but it's quite likely that in different circumstances you would feel obligations and responsibilities, as well as a belief in important goals, that are missing now.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Correct. Hindsight is always 20-20, unless you watch fox, msnbc or listen to right wing radio, etc.
Fact is, he KNEW it was a lie, and he put that lie out there, knowing full well the consequences. Perhaps he expected a different result...like we'd be welcomed as liberators, or it would be over in a number of days, etc. He knew full well he had crossed the line. Same as the young soldiers who did the work in the camps.
No telling how I might have decided. I would hope I would have refused to spread a lie such as he did, presuming I had the same vision he had at the time.
He owns that choice. Nobody had a gun to his head...only his own ambitions.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Somehow in your "analysis" you kind of misplaced the...planet, our strategic goals under the current administration, Powell's own duty to his commander in chief and to perform the duties he assumed with his positions, including joining the military as a young man long before becoming a four-star general, Chair of the Joint Chiefs, SoS, etc.
Only fools would imagine that or that the vast majority of wars are justified by the standards of those who die in them, and only fools would expect generals to suddenly turn into sappy wimps saying, "I can't follow orders, I just can't! It's not necessary for soldiers to die!" Our own son was on an aircraft carrier, but even at that age and wanting to put off adulthood he wasn't a fraction that silly.
Btw, our son KNEW the excuse for going to war was a lie because his mother did her duty and told him. How'd I know? The way anyone in those days knew: we listened to the many retired top generals, retired heads of intelligence agencies, retired experts in many fields who stepped up and explained why.
And also some true heroes who weren't retired and sacrificed their careers to call out the lies.
It wasn't exactly a secret.
hibbing
(10,096 posts)Or anyone else from that god awful criminal administration.
Peace
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)tavernier
(12,377 posts)She is giddy with another anti Hillary story, pushing Powell's "pin it on me' statement.
calimary
(81,210 posts)#Doublestandard
I'm going to start using that - LIBERALLY! Particularly for calling out Andrea Mitchell. I must tweet-scold her on almost a daily basis by now!
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)That's what I figure.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)I'd like to see her and Petraeus called to account before Powell, and Sec. Clinton has already been called to account, ad nauseum, over and over again.
I haven't heard Rice questioned about this issue, though I remember her head shaking testimony that 'I believe it was called 'Bin Laden determined to strike in the US' '. That's Republican national security concerns and performance, summed up in a neat little nutshell. 9/11/01 vs 9/11/12, and they have the gall to run on it.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)lamp_shade
(14,827 posts)that he was posting it today.
calimary
(81,210 posts)We all need to provide backup. Twitter is fast becoming my new favorite. But ONE person tweeting a complaint won't have much of an impact. We need swarms of 'em!
Numbers can be your friend.
mcar
(42,301 posts)But, of course, it won't.
Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)differently.. and I am sure he said something about the email.. you can just almost take it to the bank
patsimp
(915 posts)imagine a man who sent so many to die is himself a coward.
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)He was full of shit then, and I don't see anything having changed since then.