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pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:18 PM Aug 2016

Author disputes Colin Powell's pseudo-denial of his dinner-table email discussion with Hillary

Colin Powell claims to have "no recollection" of a dinner table conversation with Hillary about his email, but he had previously confirmed the conversation to the author and it is in his book. Also, Hillary wasn't trying to "pin" anything on Powell. It wasn't Hillary who reported the conversation to the author -- it was multiple others. Hillary never discussed the conversation publicly.

But, the author says, Powell had a good reason to want to stay out of the spotlight on this issue, since he had deleted all of his emails on his AOL account -- and it is a fact that his AOL account WAS hacked. No evidence of hacking was found on Hillary's private server.

http://www.newsweek.com/did-colin-powell-advise-hillary-use-private-email-492376?rx=us

But last June, while reporting on Powell’s advice to Clinton for my book, I contacted his office for comment—and got a very different answer.

His principal assistant, Margaret “Peggy” Cifrino, informed me then via email that their calendar showed that the Albright dinner had occurred in June 2009. While he didn’t recall some details of the dinner because it had occurred seven years ago, according to Cifrino, he remembered what he did and didn’t say to Clinton on the topic in question that evening:

He does recall sharing with Secretary Clinton his use of his email account and how useful it was and transformative for the Department. He knew nothing then or until recently about her private home server and a personal domain, nor, therefore, could he have advised her on that or suggested it. By June I would assume her email system was already set up.


So it is perplexing for him to say he doesn’t remember that dinner conversation at all now, since, according to his own assistant, he remembered at least some of what he said as recently as two months ago.

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Author disputes Colin Powell's pseudo-denial of his dinner-table email discussion with Hillary (Original Post) pnwmom Aug 2016 OP
impeach him! lock him up! take away his pension! frothing argle bargle! unblock Aug 2016 #1
We all know he is willing to lie us into a war so what he says here is worthless liberal N proud Aug 2016 #2
Yep, and his whole career started with DURHAM D Aug 2016 #3
yep, he's a POS. But like so many of his ilk, he seems so calm and reasonable. Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #11
Lost all credibility with me when he joined the cheney kabal. Hulk Aug 2016 #15
Voters sent Cheney and the rest to Washington. Hortensis Aug 2016 #21
He knew...and his cowarice and actions cost the world mightily Hulk Aug 2016 #22
Naively sincere at best? Hortensis Aug 2016 #23
I certainly don't believe anything he says hibbing Aug 2016 #12
Lies about a Clinton are media catnip. Good to see Newsweek's clarification. Rose Siding Aug 2016 #4
Someone tell Andrea Mitchell about this, plz. tavernier Aug 2016 #7
I discovered something awfully fun! calimary Aug 2016 #18
Somebody told him he better not cover for Clinton or he'd never work for the GOP again. hollowdweller Aug 2016 #5
Methinks Colin Powell just wants to be left alone. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #6
What about Condi Rice's use of a private e-mail account to handle classified info? Mc Mike Aug 2016 #8
Guess he's conveniently forgotten about his phony mobile WMD units too nt Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2016 #9
Thanks. I've been waiting for this. Conason said on tv this morning lamp_shade Aug 2016 #10
Good! At least somebody should. calimary Aug 2016 #20
That should settle that mcar Aug 2016 #13
Clinton you know went to all these precious SOS's and asked what they would do Peacetrain Aug 2016 #14
kick - powell continues to be the same coward who became a liar for bush patsimp Aug 2016 #16
This is the guy who held up cartoons as "proof" of mobile weapons labs in Iraq. GoCubsGo Aug 2016 #17
"DUCK!" NBachers Aug 2016 #19

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
3. Yep, and his whole career started with
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:32 PM
Aug 2016

running the My Lai massacre cover up.

I have never understood why anyone respects him.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
15. Lost all credibility with me when he joined the cheney kabal.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:26 PM
Aug 2016

He has demonstrated not only his willingness to associate with war criminals and neocon marketeers; but he took even further steps by consciously LYING us in to a devastating invasion of Iraq that cost TRILLIONS, thousands of lives and destroyed human futures, and unleashed crimes against humanity that we will ALL bare the shame for for generations to come.
The Middle East today is a result of his cowardice act 15 years ago.
He lost his "hero status" for the rest of his time. Yes...a mild mannered, seemingly personable republican....but nothing more in my book. Nothing more.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Voters sent Cheney and the rest to Washington.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:28 PM
Aug 2016

Professionals play the cards they're dealt. You have the luxury of imagining now that you'd be too high-minded to do your job, but it's quite likely that in different circumstances you would feel obligations and responsibilities, as well as a belief in important goals, that are missing now.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
22. He knew...and his cowarice and actions cost the world mightily
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:11 PM
Aug 2016

Correct. Hindsight is always 20-20, unless you watch fox, msnbc or listen to right wing radio, etc.
Fact is, he KNEW it was a lie, and he put that lie out there, knowing full well the consequences. Perhaps he expected a different result...like we'd be welcomed as liberators, or it would be over in a number of days, etc. He knew full well he had crossed the line. Same as the young soldiers who did the work in the camps.
No telling how I might have decided. I would hope I would have refused to spread a lie such as he did, presuming I had the same vision he had at the time.
He owns that choice. Nobody had a gun to his head...only his own ambitions.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Naively sincere at best?
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:28 PM
Aug 2016

Somehow in your "analysis" you kind of misplaced the...planet, our strategic goals under the current administration, Powell's own duty to his commander in chief and to perform the duties he assumed with his positions, including joining the military as a young man long before becoming a four-star general, Chair of the Joint Chiefs, SoS, etc.

Only fools would imagine that or that the vast majority of wars are justified by the standards of those who die in them, and only fools would expect generals to suddenly turn into sappy wimps saying, "I can't follow orders, I just can't! It's not necessary for soldiers to die!" Our own son was on an aircraft carrier, but even at that age and wanting to put off adulthood he wasn't a fraction that silly.

Btw, our son KNEW the excuse for going to war was a lie because his mother did her duty and told him. How'd I know? The way anyone in those days knew: we listened to the many retired top generals, retired heads of intelligence agencies, retired experts in many fields who stepped up and explained why.

And also some true heroes who weren't retired and sacrificed their careers to call out the lies.

It wasn't exactly a secret.

hibbing

(10,096 posts)
12. I certainly don't believe anything he says
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:19 PM
Aug 2016

Or anyone else from that god awful criminal administration.

Peace

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
7. Someone tell Andrea Mitchell about this, plz.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:59 PM
Aug 2016

She is giddy with another anti Hillary story, pushing Powell's "pin it on me' statement.

calimary

(81,210 posts)
18. I discovered something awfully fun!
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:10 PM
Aug 2016

#Doublestandard

I'm going to start using that - LIBERALLY! Particularly for calling out Andrea Mitchell. I must tweet-scold her on almost a daily basis by now!

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
5. Somebody told him he better not cover for Clinton or he'd never work for the GOP again.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

That's what I figure.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
8. What about Condi Rice's use of a private e-mail account to handle classified info?
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:15 PM
Aug 2016

I'd like to see her and Petraeus called to account before Powell, and Sec. Clinton has already been called to account, ad nauseum, over and over again.

I haven't heard Rice questioned about this issue, though I remember her head shaking testimony that 'I believe it was called 'Bin Laden determined to strike in the US' '. That's Republican national security concerns and performance, summed up in a neat little nutshell. 9/11/01 vs 9/11/12, and they have the gall to run on it.

calimary

(81,210 posts)
20. Good! At least somebody should.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:14 PM
Aug 2016

We all need to provide backup. Twitter is fast becoming my new favorite. But ONE person tweeting a complaint won't have much of an impact. We need swarms of 'em!

Numbers can be your friend.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
14. Clinton you know went to all these precious SOS's and asked what they would do
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:22 PM
Aug 2016

differently.. and I am sure he said something about the email.. you can just almost take it to the bank

patsimp

(915 posts)
16. kick - powell continues to be the same coward who became a liar for bush
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:30 PM
Aug 2016

imagine a man who sent so many to die is himself a coward.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
17. This is the guy who held up cartoons as "proof" of mobile weapons labs in Iraq.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:35 PM
Aug 2016

He was full of shit then, and I don't see anything having changed since then.

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