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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:17 AM Aug 2016

Sanjay Gupta: Trump's health-statement contains language no doctor would use

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/cnns-sanjay-gupta-casts-serious-doubts-on-trump-doctors-absurd-boasts-about-his-health/

“Whether you’re a doctor or not, that degree of hyperbole and these types of words being used is very unusual,” Gupta told colleague Ashleigh Banfield. “People don’t write like that, that this is ‘the healthiest ever.’ First of all, they couldn’t substantiate that. How do you know that someone is the healthiest ever?”

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Gupta also poked fun at the letter for saying that Trump only got “positive” results on his medical exams.

“It’s funny in medicine, because when something is good we say it’s a negative result. Meaning, that it did not appear when we did an exam. Positive results actually means quite the opposite,” Gupta explained. “Calling things ‘test scores’ instead of results — his PSA ‘test score’ was this, as if it was the SAT exam instead of a blood test. It’s a strange letter that’s absurd to look at it on face value.”



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Soooooooooooooooooo... Why would Trump release a health-statement full of hyperbole and medically incorrect language?

Why would he use a doctor who's a specialist on gastrointestinal problems as a go-to doctor for 36 years?



Yeah, it's old news. But apparently the health of presidential candidates is the topic of the month.
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Sanjay Gupta: Trump's health-statement contains language no doctor would use (Original Post) DetlefK Aug 2016 OP
The point Gupta makes is that the letter itself is a window into Trump's health underthematrix Aug 2016 #1
Trump's letter is fake Gothmog Aug 2016 #2
My take. no_hypocrisy Aug 2016 #3
Well to be honest my PCP is an oncologist and I have no cancer whatthehey Aug 2016 #13
Because he's full of sh|t underpants Aug 2016 #16
Well played! no_hypocrisy Aug 2016 #19
Trump's doc has a gmail address. Seems legit... VOX Aug 2016 #4
Actually, Trump said in 2011 that he has proof that Obama's birth-certificate is fake. DetlefK Aug 2016 #6
He clearly wrote the letter himself. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #5
Also the "strangeness." Lol. Hortensis Aug 2016 #11
Sounds positively McIver-ish. randome Aug 2016 #15
His wife should know all about his health bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #7
Dementia? Alzheimer's? Bad Thoughts Aug 2016 #8
Nothing he says or does is real. tavernier Aug 2016 #9
There have been rumors that he takes diet pills greymattermom Aug 2016 #10
should go more like this bora13 Aug 2016 #12
I'm sure his GI issues, if he actually has them, are getting worse Ligyron Aug 2016 #14
Thank you Sanjay! Someone needed to speak out about that absurd letter. Avalux Aug 2016 #17
The media needs to look into this. yardwork Aug 2016 #18

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
1. The point Gupta makes is that the letter itself is a window into Trump's health
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:37 AM
Aug 2016

and it indicates his mental health is severely impaired. Other than that we know nothing about his physical health other than what we can see. He's obese and seems to have terrible skin.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
3. My take.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:44 AM
Aug 2016

My father was a cardiologist/internist for a little less than 50 years. I worked in his medical office for 15 years as a medical file clerk, medical secretary, EKG technician, and medical assistant. I learned a lot.

With regard to Trump's alleged doctor, why would he choose a gastroenterologist instead of a primary care, internist, or a cardiologist? A gastroenterologist primarily concentrates on the digestion and elimination systems. You generally are not under the care of this specialist for almost 40 years. You go because your primary care/internist sees a condition that needs temporary attention, usually a matter of months unless you have a serious or chronic condition like ulcers or diverticulitis that needs management.

An internist by contrast is like a primary care physician who knows more about complex illnesses and conditions. https://www.acponline.org/about-acp/about-internal-medicine
You can either see your internist once a year for your complete physical or be monitored weekly or less often for situations like monitoring your pro thrombin time (clotting time for your blood) or controlled asthma. An internist will send you for a consultation when it's something that demands special medical protocol that s/he lacks.

It would have been more credible if Trump had his internist send a general assessment.

When letters for patients' health status were drafted, they were basic, without fanfare. It was a medical status quo. A doctor would merely endorse that it was safe, for example, for a patient with a heart condition to fly or go on a cruise or go in a hot tub. Nothing would be revealed regarding results of blood or lab tests unless it was correspondence to another doctor. And certainly one patient would not be rated "the healthiest" overall of the doctor's patients even if it were meant to be rhetoric. You just don't put that down on paper.


And BTW, judging by Trump's weight, abdominal girth, and moon facies, he should be consulting an endocrinologist for his thyroid.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
13. Well to be honest my PCP is an oncologist and I have no cancer
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:54 AM
Aug 2016

He was the local one accepting new patients when I got this health plan. He's just a gateway to repeat prescriptions for basic medication to me, which at this point is all I need.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
4. Trump's doc has a gmail address. Seems legit...
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:32 AM
Aug 2016
In some other universe, maybe. Donnie wasn't happy with the (genuine) birth certificate Obama produced, so why should anybody accept Trump's obviously bogus doctor's note?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
5. He clearly wrote the letter himself.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:51 AM
Aug 2016

The wording is the same repetitive, limited vocabulary, dramatic language he always uses.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Also the "strangeness." Lol.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:32 AM
Aug 2016

I'm familiar with medical documents, and this letter had me guffawing the first time I read it.

I just have an image of his satisfied nods to himself as he cluelessly dictated all this extravagant trumpishness.

Oh, my...

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. Sounds positively McIver-ish.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:18 AM
Aug 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
[/center][/font][hr]

Bad Thoughts

(2,522 posts)
8. Dementia? Alzheimer's?
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:55 AM
Aug 2016

HAving a specialist as a GP isn't that much of a problem, although it would suggest that Trump had a gastrointestinal problem not mentioned in the letter.

bora13

(860 posts)
12. should go more like this
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:53 AM
Aug 2016

"Mr. Trump has got like really good health records from like when he was twenty. But he has a heart of a pigs ass, you should see that thing. His blood pressure is 180 over screwed. He is not 21, 22 or 23 years old anymore. He ain't 31, 32 or 33 years old anymore. He can't do the things he used to do you understand. You wanna know how many good years Mr. Trump has? I was thinking two."

thanks to dana carvey for the comedy.

Ligyron

(7,626 posts)
14. I'm sure his GI issues, if he actually has them, are getting worse
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:08 AM
Aug 2016

the way his campaign is going.

Wait 'til the days before and after the debates - and when he loses the election? wow, not enough omeprazole and Maalox in the world to kill that heartburn.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
17. Thank you Sanjay! Someone needed to speak out about that absurd letter.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:58 AM
Aug 2016

When I first read the thing I burst out laughing. No way a physician would ever write such a thing.

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