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Have you seen the cover of James Carville's new book? (Original Post) onehandle Aug 2016 OP
He's OUR attack dog!!! LOL!!!! MADem Aug 2016 #1
Rec cuz I gotz the original. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #2
Does he still think that Democrats "have to sound like republicans" to get elected? That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #3
Your concern is noted. nt stevenleser Aug 2016 #4
I could easily be wrong. WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2016 #12
I was a huge fan of TV Nation back when it aired That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #16
that could be talk like than as in easy. quick sound bites like DEATH taxes, but call pansypoo53219 Aug 2016 #29
I saw it, it was a substance not a style choice. Carville is no friend to progressive Democrats That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #32
You seem concerned. Please feel free to share more of your concerns and enjoy your stay. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #14
You don't Know why? Raine1967 Aug 2016 #15
He fights to make the Democratic Party sound like republicans That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #17
Ok then. Raine1967 Aug 2016 #18
Heavy on allegations, light on supporting evidence. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #26
TV Nation is on vhs only. That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #33
Downloaded it today Sophiegirl Aug 2016 #5
THAT...IS...GREAT!!! 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #6
k&r DesertRat Aug 2016 #7
James Carville was on MSNBC yesterday and commented - "somebody's going to Hell..." calimary Aug 2016 #8
!!! BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #9
James Carville is great! yallerdawg Aug 2016 #10
Reminds me of a scene rocktivity Aug 2016 #11
Looking forward to this one. greyl Aug 2016 #13
Let's say you could read that book in four or five hours. House of Roberts Aug 2016 #22
Carville's never won the understatement award. lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #19
Borrowed from the library just yesterday! DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #20
Holy shit. joshcryer Aug 2016 #21
LOL! workinclasszero Aug 2016 #23
Ha! From the guy who said (paraphrasing): liberaltrucker Aug 2016 #24
There's some political wisdom right there workinclasszero Aug 2016 #30
:-) nt LAS14 Aug 2016 #25
Could not love this more. Freakin' awesome. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #27
Holy cr@p! (No pun intended.) 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #28
Exquisite!! Bill USA Aug 2016 #31

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. He's OUR attack dog!!! LOL!!!!
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:54 PM
Aug 2016

I shouldn't laugh--but if anyone deserves to be treated in an undignified and disrespectful way, it's The Con-ald.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
3. Does he still think that Democrats "have to sound like republicans" to get elected?
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:08 PM
Aug 2016

IDK why this go-along, get-along, dixiecrat is still on the national stage.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,055 posts)
12. I could easily be wrong.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:23 PM
Aug 2016

But I don't remember Carville having this attitude. Rahm Emanuel, yes, and he certainly had the Clinton's ears. And unfortunately, Obama's in the early days.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
16. I was a huge fan of TV Nation back when it aired
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:45 PM
Aug 2016

Michael Moore sent an ex-KGB agent to "search for the heart and soul" of the Democratic Party. That segment closed with Carville talking to a Democratic Party meeting where he said something along the lines of "in order to get elected now(this was during newt gingrich's congress) Democrats need to sound like republicans."

There were a lot of Democratic Party members who shared this belief, that we should surrender framing issues to republicans and just say "me too". It had some very limited success in deep red states but didn't do well elsewhere. In fact since this idea was adopted, we've lost more seats in the House and Senate than we've won. Unfortunately where it succeeded we often ended up with Democrats that sided with republicans when we really needed their votes.

pansypoo53219

(20,955 posts)
29. that could be talk like than as in easy. quick sound bites like DEATH taxes, but call
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 03:52 PM
Aug 2016

it-TAX ON BILLIONAIRES. marriage penalty becomes-YUPPIE TAX. less WORDY.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
32. I saw it, it was a substance not a style choice. Carville is no friend to progressive Democrats
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:59 PM
Aug 2016
TAX ON BILLIONAIRES. marriage penalty becomes-YUPPIE TAX. less WORDY.


That wouldn't be considered "sounding like a republican". If he were to talk about taxes(at the time, I pretty much ignore him these days), he would not say anything about taxing billionaires, he would say something like: "yes taxes are to high, but we need to make sure that those tax cuts create jobs for Americans". Preemptively surrendering to the republican idea that taxes are too high, essentially saying that the gop is right about the economy while shutting out traditional Democratic positions.

To be fair, the Democratic Party was terrified by reagan's victory and gingrich's continued success attacking liberals(really anything that the republicans didn't invent), and thought that they needed to dump all that hippy equality crap and do whatever it took to win elections. They've been running scared policy-wise and legislatively ever since. Carville himself will throw out some red meat to liberals on occasion, but if you follow his results, they aren't progressive/liberal.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
15. You don't Know why?
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:28 PM
Aug 2016

Let me tell ya this:

He's not a dixiecrat. You might want to look that definition up.

Also, bless your heart.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
17. He fights to make the Democratic Party sound like republicans
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:48 PM
Aug 2016

...that's dixiecrat enough for me.


Also, bless your heart.

Right back at ya!
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
26. Heavy on allegations, light on supporting evidence.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 03:01 PM
Aug 2016

Your posts in this thread appear rather heavy on allegations, yet dramatically light on supporting evidence.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
8. James Carville was on MSNBC yesterday and commented - "somebody's going to Hell..."
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:38 PM
Aug 2016

quoting from his 6th grade teacher talking about someone who'd been the cause of an injustice.

One of the next segments was about Rudy Giuliani lacerating Hillary and blaming her for everything short of 9/11, Pearl Harbor, the polio epidemic of old, and New Coke. I immediately thought - "hmmm... guess we know who's going to Hell this time!"

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. James Carville is great!
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:49 PM
Aug 2016

On gerrymandering and the Republican US House:

"When someone asks me, what can I do to help the Democratic Party, my answer is move."

greyl

(22,990 posts)
13. Looking forward to this one.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:42 PM
Aug 2016

Reviewers on Amazon don't think the 2 negative reviews have been helpful.

We're Still Right, They're Still Wrong: The Democrats' Case for 2016 on Amazon

I'd wait for the Audible version if Carville had narrated the whole thing.

House of Roberts

(5,162 posts)
22. Let's say you could read that book in four or five hours.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 11:11 AM
Aug 2016

With Carville narrating, it could take double that amount of time.

DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
20. Borrowed from the library just yesterday!
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:07 AM
Aug 2016

. . .and savoring the pages.

There's a recipe inside for:
"The Republican Party's Dazzling Red Punch: Let's Toast To The End Of The GOP"
(involving Veuve Clicquot champagne)
". . .Set bowl out of reach of children and orange-faced tiny-handed partygoers. . ."

liberaltrucker

(9,129 posts)
24. Ha! From the guy who said (paraphrasing):
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 02:15 PM
Aug 2016

"When your opponent is drowning, throw the motherfucker an anvil".

3catwoman3

(23,947 posts)
28. Holy cr@p! (No pun intended.)
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 03:50 PM
Aug 2016

Is the elephant giving birth to Trump or excreting him? It works either way.

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