2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumQuestion..Is Assange part of the alt right movement?
Just that question.. thanks to anyone who has insight
reznor73
(17 posts)Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)But I'm pretty sure antisemites fall under that category.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)described as an anarcho-libertarian. Of course, extremists on both left and right behave alike in so many ways that it can be hard to tell the difference, especially when a left-winger is making antisemitic noise, and he's hardly the only one on the far left doing that.
brush
(53,765 posts)And he outed gays in a recent release of info. The guy seems to have gone off the deep end with his grude against Clinton.
He's not to be trusted anymore as he's actively working to damage Clinton and thus help Trump, who just bought on a white supremacist to head-up his campaign, get elected.
I wouldn't call that far left at all.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)mostly by resentments and malice, hyped up by "restyling" reality to maximize them, all typical of frustrated extremists. He's imprisoned in an embassy, forced guest of people he doesn't like and who don't like him, while Hillary waves cheerily from the TV and seems about to become President of the United States. (Poor guy!)
Assange's cozying up with right-wingers seems no contradiction to me. Fars on both left and right understand each other and often work together (always briefly--neither good at cooperation) or switch allegiances without requiring personality transplants. For both, their opposites aren't each other but rather the great mass of non-extremist people they both tend to despise.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Assange also hasa lot of overlap and mutual goals with the movement, but I don't think he's a part of it...
jalan48
(13,859 posts)They didn't like him exposing their killing of innocent civilians in Iraq in our fight for "Freedom".
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)much these days either....with him outing them in countries where they could get killed.
MFM008
(19,805 posts)He's a cowering probable rapist trying to buy his way out of the Ecuadorian embassy by actively working with trump and the former KGB.
He can stuff his stolen information up his top secret ass.
jalan48
(13,859 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,041 posts)After what he did to gays recently, he's a monster. Gays are dying and being tortured right now because of Assange.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)with Israel Shamir.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026388527
Festivito
(13,452 posts)Lots of one line posts, folksy and sure. Usually calling names and referring to things with no links, or linking and the links do not reflect the initial opinion. That kind of stuff gets complicated.
He is in a dire spot. He could make a deal with Trump. But, I would not trust Trump. Who knows tho.
I think he likes transparency. Transparency would lead to the people making better faster choices which sounds liberating and anarchic in the way new facts can quickly change governance.
I think his enemies are those who make a lot of money off our tax dollars and resources. And, they have a lot of money. LOTS!
I think he likes Bernie a hundred times better than Hillary. But, would like Hillary 10,000 times better than Trump. Then again, he's Australian and might not mind if the US drops into the abyss of nearly 300 year old empires.
He did, however say that if he was handed secret information on Trump, he would publish that too.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)If a troll is a creature who makes a living propagating RW memes s/he knows to be false, what does that make CRU-email "leaker" Assange?
Festivito
(13,452 posts)Assange leaked all the stuff that shows the right-wing meme of climate denial to be untrue. The idea that we should not release a lot of info because someone might pick and choose and create a false meme, is not a valuable approach to this life, by me.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)scuttle the 2009 Copenhagen climate accord. It took six years to get back to that point, at Paris, and the Paris accords are weaker. If that's your "truth" then Jules is your guy.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)He's a piece of shit.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)Going with Hillary we would lose 20% or such of Bernie supporters who wanted an upsetting change.
Going with third way, DNC, Hillary we would also gain some percentage of Republican voters.
It's over and done. Some left, some came on board.
The alt-right want that upset the apple cart change and are still hopeful it will happen. I'm not in their tank. As for my view of Assange, my first post remains the same.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Assange & neo-Nazi.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Two, I think he has made some kind of deal, either through convenience or what, with Putin.
Three, he's shown himself to be a bit of an anti-Semite, to say the least.
But I'm not sure if that alone puts him in the "alt-right"; he does not seem to be motivated by ideology other than originally pursuing transparency and now pursuing revenge on the people he thinks have stuck him in the ecuadoran embassy.
So, probably no. It doesn't mean he's not an asshole, but I don't think that he's pursuing the great Aryan dream or something.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Trump probably promised him not to send him to prison forever.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Where "privacy" means having your personal information exposed by him as part of his personal vendettas.
mythology
(9,527 posts)He's a narcissist, driven by his own ego. He wants power not transparency. That's why he's cowering in an embassy hiding from taking responsibility for being a rapist. He even invented a needlessly complicated conspiracy theory that somehow the U.S. government got Sweden to agree to an extradition, but either couldn't get the U.K. to agree to it, or perhaps more sneakily got the U.K. to let him stay there for years, go through the U.K. court system so we could extradite him from Sweden instead. Because logic.
He can't imagine a world in which he's not right, so he doesn't actually believe that transparency should apply to him.
In this case, I think he comes across as siding with the alt-right because they are not in power and so he's "striking a blow for the weak" (as his addled brain sees it) and that happens to coincide with the goals of the alt-right. But I don't think Assange actually cares who he helps or hurts as long as it feeds his ego.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Come on, I know y'all are out there, because you've definitely given me enough shit over the years...
https://twitter.com/megynkelly/status/768988937943592961
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/768987038158770176
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Unless he get his jollies.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)He's against US-imperialism blablabla. But he doesn't care about helping a fascist rise to power. Just like Wikileaks doesn't care about who suffers because of their leaks.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I was even hesitant to use it in my title....
No more stupid memes, we have plenty