What a reprehensible fecal stain that woman is.

indiscriminately and with callous indifference exposes rape victims, their identities and those of persecuted individuals in areas where their lives are truly in danger, on a whim.

This is truly reprehensible. I admire ambition, but I also require it to be paired with intelligence, understanding and some sort of a clue. Dr. Stein seems to be sacrificing all decency and professionalism on the altar of her own ego for a position she is not qualified for, has no clue how to achieve and which she shall never attain.

I regret my vote for her in the last election.

stay and work in the Democratic party! We experience set-backs and frustrations to be sure, but the only viable route to furthering the cause of liberalism is to stand together and keep pushing this big tent to the left from the inside.

I've been working, and defending the Dems my entire time as an adult voter, and even before then My private high school had an unusual number of Repubs, some of whom are my very best friends still. (Not all of them are crazy, for some it's just a bit too much Fox these days, we always agreed on most issues, they just didn't like Dems and being a non-self-hating, non-white, non-xtian, immigrant woman who's also of reproductive age, I don't like the GOP. Also our families staunchly share our political views, with one glaring exception.)


I've only voted Republican once, due to family loyalty (and knowing he's not an insane moron, just a banker who forgot he was brown with a funny name). Heck yes, I'm right there with you pushing for sane, reasonable polices, which are liberal and there is only one party that's doing that, and I'm fully behind them.

not indicate gay or straight. And, countless can be zero as well as many if none are counted.

And leaking the info of a positive HIV status also puts all those people at risk.

Jill Stein should NOT be supporting Assange or Wikileaks reckless and harmful behavior.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/08/23/wikileaks-outs-gay-people-in-saudi-arabia-in-reckless-mass-data-dump/

when Assange gave my personal financial information to the world. Kind of a small and personal reading, but I'm taking him personally for a number of reasons these days, including malicious meddling with my election.

and I didn't understand the sentence. Now I see it was just stupid.

She is such a zealot about hsting Hillary and America in general, she is willing to throw those folks under the bus and embrace Assange, so long as he continues to trash Hillary.

Sad to see. She seems to care more about holding her white privilege and electing Trump over all else these days.

in her lifetime, because that's how magical Jill Stein is!

Release of HIV status is enough to provoke lethal levels of persecution, and those who actually have some concern for LGBTQ in the world, know very well that those interested in persecuting people don't much care what's "indicated", so I guess Jill Stein's support is "countless" since it seems to be zero for actual human beings who are at risk thanks to an egotistical anarchist with zero respect for human life.

Way to go, Jill you're pro-Rapist before Hillary and every other decent human being with some clue about what life is like outside her privileged white world in her small town.

That she supports this ass is reprehensible, and this lame defense of the indefensible is disgusting.

Despite being asked repeatedly how she would accomplish what she is proposing, she had no answers, could provide no specifics. She's all smoke and mirrors.

She took up the torch where Nader left off. They reserve their attacks for the Democratic Party, and rarely lay a glove on the Repukes. I despise her every bit as much as Donald Trump, and can't wait to see the back of her. Thankfully, she only pops up every four years to run for POTUS, so we won't have to see or hear from her again until 2020.

... is that the same people who complain about not wanting to have to choose between the "lesser of two evils" now support Stein - despite the fact that her entire schtick is premised on holding herself out as not being "one of those other two evils".

That's it. That's all she's got - no ideas, no solutions - just "vote for me, because they're evil, and I'm not them".

Reading the pro-Stein stuff on JPR is good for a laugh, though. The same folks who bitched about Democrats voting for anyone who has a (D) behind their name are more than willing to vote for Jill simply because she doesn't have a (D) behind hers. It's obvious they know nothing about her, what she stands for, etc. All they know is she's NOT Hillary, so that makes her somehow qualified for the presidency.

The fact that Stein thinks a despicable character like Assange is a "hero" doesn't even register with the self-declared progressier-than-thou - any more than the fact that Assange's behaviour has put innocent people, especially gays/lesbians, at risk.

It's all about being anti-Hillary for some. They aren't "for" anything at all, other than being perpetually pissed-off that their candidate-of-choice lost the nomination.

that survived to tell the tale have returned here, thankful that they managed to get out with their mental health intact. Jill Stein is certifiable.

Those hardcore JPR's possess a certain privilege that the WORLD cannot afford. I imagine that many of them agree with Ms. Sarandon who thinks a Trump presidency 'might not be so bad'?

They think the MSM is badgering Trump 24/7 as a distraction from how badly HRC is actually polling.

They also believe that Trump would be a "much less dangerous" POTUS than Hillary because she is planning to start World War III.

Today's hot conspiracy theory on JPR is that "The Dr. Drew Show" was cancelled today because he commented on HRC's health a week ago. Seriously.

The absolute bullshit the JPR folks swallow whole is beyond amazing. There is nothing that is considered too ridiculous to be questioned, no less challenged in any way. Facts don't even exist.

If the shoe fits...and sadly, it does.

That says a lot.

Maura for Governor hopefully!

Too much woo in her beliefs for me.

I hope that your candidate for governor wins. Illinois needs a new governor, too, but so far no one has entered the race. It's just talk right now.

And Baker seems to be pretty popular so he will be tough to beat, it's one of those odd things in Mass. we are very liberal but often have a Republican governor.

I hope that we both get Democratic governors. In Illinois, it's primarily the downstate voters who elected Republicans. It all depends on turnout in the Chicago area.

when it came to reelection for Dem Quinn as gov. Rauner fits his agenda for privatization IMO
Voting turn out when the dem party isn't trying to get out votes for dems is going to be a question people need to ask why too
Down staters have always been

Maybe it's true. I don't know. It remains to be seen. But it will be interesting to find out.

Who would have thought that Gary Johnson would have been the second sanest person on the ballet this year.

No two ways about THAT.

Possibly both. Thinking good thoughts about (or worse, voting for her) Jill Stein is like fretting over carpet samples while the entire house is burning down. Her presence accomplishes ZERO, but it's great for Trump, as she won't be picking up any disgruntled Republican voters. Watch him talk her up over the next two months.

I supported Bernie in the primaries, but done is done. There's a monster on the loose, and Hillary is the only person standing in its way.

likely to be killed by someone for even the suspicion of being gay.

That's her HERO.

Comrade Stein may be your hero, but I suggest you look a little closer and rethink what that says about your own powers of discrimination. There's a reason why the woman chose a (haha) "running mate" who called Bernie and his supporters white supremacists and PBO an Uncle Tom. She's a complete fuck-wit.

Some people will let their ideology take them to very dark places.

Does it not follow that praising the collective actions of a person's works extends to praising the obvious consequences of those same works?

Thank you for this, yardwork.

Stein, Assange, Snowden, and in all likelihood Trump are all on the payroll.

I'm glad she will never be president.

Horrid.

She's no better than Trump.

Thanks for the thread, yardwork.

"These documents have resulted in the torture and murder of countless gay and lesbian people, not to mention radicals, atheists, and many other people who don't conform to the brutal fundamentalist laws of dictators."

I don't believe for a second that she "supports the torture and murder of gay people." Is she an idiot who pals around with shady people? Sure. But let's stick to the charges that don't make us look like we're stretching the truth to silence annoying crackpots. She's not worth getting in the mud with.

makes her very much the enemy.

It's not just a silly little word game around cups of tea at the local coffee shop, you know. Have you ever met a person who was tortured? Look it up. Read their stories.

... she has NOT criticized Assange's casual disregard for personal privacy even in cases where a person's well-being or even life may be at stake.

That goes beyond siple disregard. These are extremely serious issues, and to fail to mention them at all amounts to being silently complicit.

else who might care - know, I routinely trash any and all DU threads about Jill Stein.

I'm simply posting this as a reminder. Now - off to the Trash Bin this goes!

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She does not support those things. The torture and murder of gay people? Come on, now.

Stein said nothing about disagreeing with what he's done. If that's not support, what is?

Stein and her supporters may not want to face the ugly truth about what they are promoting.

But I don't think that means she supports the torture and murder of gay people.

Assange is not Hitler by any stretch of the imagination. That is preposterous.

Come on, now.

How about this:

Many progressives view FDR as a hero. Yet, he was responsible for the Japanese internment camps.

Does that mean that anyone who admires FDR supports the internment of Japanese-Americans?

On balance, I can't think of anything positive Assange has done that outweighs his callous, privileged, and cruel disregard of the lives and welfare of thousands of people.

Look, I don't like either of these people (Assange or Stein) at all; I just don't think there is evidence to suggest that they support torturing and killing gay people. That's going too far in my book. But I understand your feelings so I will just leave it there.

It's fucking sick that the Green Party, a party I have always had respect for and voted for more than one of their candidates, has turned to the imagery of a white nationalist party supporting people like Trump and Putin while under the embarrassing leadership of Stein.

We need the genuine, actual liberals who have sometimes associated themselves with Greens to come home to the Dem party and fight for liberalism, fight for progress and get strong progressive officials elected from small-town offices to state legislatures on up to our House and Senate!

The more liberal Democratic local and state offices we hold, the more liberal Senate and House members we have, the greater our voice in the presidency. We need to build and support strong progressivism from the bottom up, and we need to do it in the Democratic party if we want to actually realize progress.

Jill Stein...

I often wonder how she sleeps at night. Probably hanging upside down in a closet with an intravenous bottle of kitten blood.

The US as a whole supports the torture and murder of LGBT persons worldwide.

Neither claim should be done by people or a nation that exposes equality. Steins commentary was bad, but she's hardly the worst when it comes to supporting homophobic countries.

Better for the world that we focus the change towards our next leader, instead of giving Stein the attention that she wants.

Since Stein can't win, the only possible goal for her behavior is to elect Trump.

False equivalency.

One false equivalency deserves another.

I don't think you want to face the truth.

You're trying to equate support of a person to support of nations, and thusly their actions. Thats a false equivalency of grand scale.

Railing on Stein for her 'support' won't do jack to help the LGBT communities in various nations - Holding our leaders accountable for calling such nations our allies however could force a change for the better. You might not want to face the truth, but calling these nations our allies does far more harm than calling a single person a hero ever will.

"Assange, Putin and Trump may be bastards but they're OUR bastards".

Jill Stein is wrong on so many issues that it is sad