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applegrove

(118,503 posts)
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:56 PM Aug 2016

Saudi prince says he twice saved Trump from bankruptcy

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20160825-saudi-prince-says-he-twice-saved-trump-from-bankruptcy/

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Saudi billionaire Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal said he twice saved US presidential candidate Donald Trump from bankruptcy, describing him as a “bad and ungrateful person”.

In an interview with Turkey’s Hurriyet newspaper, the prince said he bought Trump’s hotels after they were acquired by the banks which demanded he repay his debts.

The yacht he used to come to Antalya, southwest of Turkey, is one he bought from Trump when he was threatened with bankruptcy.

Earlier, the Saudi prince called on Trump to immediately withdraw from the presidential race describing him as a disgrace to the Republican Party and America.


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Saudi prince says he twice saved Trump from bankruptcy (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2016 OP
Never thought I'd find myself agreeing with a Saudi Prince COLGATE4 Aug 2016 #1
Well, good for him--since they have a relationship. Hortensis Aug 2016 #2
There's a saying in the commercial real estate world... Raster Aug 2016 #3
He is looking forward to Trump Broadcasting Company. Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #4
This needs to be an OP. LuckyLib Aug 2016 #11
I'd guess all he wants is the Presidential seal to plaster all over his golf courses and hotels calimary Aug 2016 #15
I think you are pretty damned close. The Apprentice and Celebrity Apprentice are getting... Raster Aug 2016 #17
Trump could not function as POTUS because he doesn`t have a four year attention span Monk06 Aug 2016 #16
Trump doesn't want the work of president, not at all. lark Aug 2016 #36
And those are his good points Monk06 Aug 2016 #38
He just wants to be crowned President so he can feel superior gg4usa Aug 2016 #26
Putting his name on everything is like a dog peeing on things to mark tblue37 Aug 2016 #32
Are the talking heads to chicken shit to cover this story? sarcasmo Aug 2016 #5
They are too busy covering Hillary's phone take out orders tavernier Aug 2016 #6
It would make a good segment on Lawrence O'Donnell's show. Safe as Milk Aug 2016 #24
The kids down the street who always have a Lemonade Stand postatomic Aug 2016 #7
The Saudi prince knows more than he is sayin. When Trump Enoki33 Aug 2016 #8
Al-Waleed keeps an entouage of midgets around for his entertainment... jtuck004 Aug 2016 #9
In this case two negatives make a positive. anamandujano Aug 2016 #14
It says a lot about the kind of people Trump does business with. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #27
Wow! A screwball jerk of a prince. oasis Aug 2016 #40
Gee, Donald seems to owe this guy a lot, and he's a Fox news owner too, so I wonder synergie Aug 2016 #10
Is he the FOX News owner that's related to Osama Bin Laden? Another GOPer who won't sanction them. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #12
Prince Al-Waleed ought to send Trump a bill meow2u3 Aug 2016 #13
The plot thickens. saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #18
Trump is all "smoke and mirrors" ashredux Aug 2016 #19
irony: trump gets money from the chinese and the arabs patsimp Aug 2016 #20
And the Russians...don't forget the Russians! MADem Aug 2016 #42
"Trump is a bad and ungrateful person." Well yes, your highness, he is. Hekate Aug 2016 #21
Was it a Nigerian prince who bankrupted him? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2016 #22
Thus doing even more damage than the Saudis did on 9/11/2001. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2016 #23
A possible subtext to Trump's entire campaign is that Safe as Milk Aug 2016 #25
doubt we will see any of this on trump news. niyad Aug 2016 #28
Once upon a time there was a sad loser called Trump who dreamed of being saved by a handsome prince. Doodley Aug 2016 #29
Trump's business savvy DeadEyeDyck Aug 2016 #30
The more you know about Trump, the more you are convinced that he is an ungrateful scammer. vinny9698 Aug 2016 #31
Hold the phone. Isn't this the same Saudi that owns controlling interests in Faux Noise? nightscanner59 Aug 2016 #33
He took money from a Muslim!!!??? The horror SummerSnow Aug 2016 #34
Next we'll find out he owes money to some Mexicans! nt MADem Aug 2016 #43
Ungrateful for real... SummerSnow Aug 2016 #35
Took money from a Muslim? A Saudi Prince? Well then..... Free-Way-Fanny Aug 2016 #37
The Prince was half right: DFW Aug 2016 #39
Kick... FrenchieCat Aug 2016 #41
It feels like it was just last month when people were concerned hughee99 Aug 2016 #44
MSM: "But Hillary Sent an Email!!!" maxrandb Aug 2016 #45
Right! jcgoldie Aug 2016 #46

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
1. Never thought I'd find myself agreeing with a Saudi Prince
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:21 PM
Aug 2016

but, damn it, he's right. Trump IS a "bad and ungrateful person" - among many other things.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
3. There's a saying in the commercial real estate world...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:35 PM
Aug 2016

...The reason why Trump puts his name on all of his buildings is so that it's easier for the banks to identify the ones they need to repossess.

If the Truth about Trump were known, I suspect we would find:

(1) He is worth NOWHERE near what he says he is worth;
(2) He has lost billions of dollars through bad business dealings, and is nowhere near the business wunderkind he claims to be;
(3) He owes his ass to all kinds o' shady characters: Saudi billionaires, Russian oligarchs and even perhaps the Chinese government;
(4) His philanthropic efforts are non-existent; and
(5) Trump does NOT want to be POTUS. Sure, he wants to say "he could be," but to actually have to walk-the walk, NO! Trump is just so far into this running for POTUS thing that he has no credible way to get out of it.

Donald Trump is smoke, mirrors and very bad hair.

calimary

(81,139 posts)
15. I'd guess all he wants is the Presidential seal to plaster all over his golf courses and hotels
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 10:46 PM
Aug 2016

and anything else he's branded - from shirts to hats to ties. So he can make money off them.

He's looking at that as a way to enhance his brand, bigtime.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
17. I think you are pretty damned close. The Apprentice and Celebrity Apprentice are getting...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 11:23 PM
Aug 2016

...TIRED! And we all know how fickle the American viewing public can be. I think Trump's foray into politics was, at first, just a boast to raise his profile and worth to the networks, something to give him more leverage. Now he can't get out of it.

And let's fact it, all he really has to market is HIS BRAND. His business reputation in the US is dicey, at best.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
16. Trump could not function as POTUS because he doesn`t have a four year attention span
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 11:23 PM
Aug 2016

He doesn`t even have a four month, week or day attention span

He probably changes his mind on what meal he wants in a restaurant while the chef is cooking it

lark

(23,065 posts)
36. Trump doesn't want the work of president, not at all.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 11:21 AM
Aug 2016

He truly wants to let Russia take over Ukraine, refuse to go there and help NATO, and get his loans forgiven. Yes, he wants the Apprentice to air from the WH, but that's small potatoes. He's already offered running the country to both Kaisch and Pence, he truly doesn't want to work that hard, has said he won't attend economic or foreign policy briefings, because he has his own slant to personally get out of debt and truly become the billionaire he says he is now and isn't, and thats all he truly wants from that job. Using the job to enrich himself, like Cheney did with Halliburton is his goal, along with destroying the economy to put the oligarchs (himself and friends) even more on top and steal the money from the working class. Think he may also try to destroy the constitution by firing Judge Curiel and RGB. Course, I could also see him putting out hits on them and lying about it. He's a truly dastardly piece of hate filled un-humanity who refuses to tell the truth.

gg4usa

(83 posts)
26. He just wants to be crowned President so he can feel superior
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 07:28 PM
Aug 2016

He doesn't want to actually do the job - that he'll hand off to Mike Pence.

tavernier

(12,370 posts)
6. They are too busy covering Hillary's phone take out orders
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:21 PM
Aug 2016

from Great Wall. Surely there was some conspiracy involving the Chinese, and the egg foo yung was a clever ruse.

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
7. The kids down the street who always have a Lemonade Stand
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:28 PM
Aug 2016

....are 1000 x better at business than Trump.

I don't know how much of this is true and I don't have time to search through Bankruptcy Filings. But, it certainly fits his business model.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
8. The Saudi prince knows more than he is sayin. When Trump
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 10:02 PM
Aug 2016

first called for a ban on all Muslims this prince addressed Trump directly and told him his properties in all Muslim countries would pay a heavy financial price for his bigotry and reminded him that he had twice bailed him out of bankruptcy. He finished with "...a third time Donald?"

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
9. Al-Waleed keeps an entouage of midgets around for his entertainment...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 10:04 PM
Aug 2016

From: BRIEFING
THE DWARF-THROWING BILLIONAIRE WHO'S BUYING UP AMERICA: Tales Of The Mysterious Saudi Prince Alwaleed


...
One source, who left Alwaleed’s employ with a letter of recommendation from the Prince, says that at least once, Alwaleed set up a “midget-tossing” contest, promising money to whomever could throw the little people the farthest. There were pillows.

Another time, says this source, at one of the parties Alwaleed would throw in the desert, he tossed $100 bills into a bonfire, encouraging the dwarfs to run into the “raging fire” and pull the money out, “scorching themselves” in the process.

One former employee of Alwaleed’s – who left under good circumstances, and had very little bad to say – says that westerners might not understand but that the Prince’s behaviour toward dwarfs is actually a charitable act.

“The reason Saudis have these people [dwarfs] is that they believe they are lucky. It’s just a very traditional thing. There was lots of laughter and they were enjoying it. They were partaking in it and wanting to partake in it, to see how much enjoyment it was creating – kind of like a circus situation.”
...


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/prince-alwaleed-2012-1


Easy to humiliate people when you are allowed to not see them like yourself.

This guy thinks the The Nasty Man running for pres is not up to his standards. He doesn't realize how he serves as an example and enables him all at the same time.

It appears money cannot buy smart enough.







 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
10. Gee, Donald seems to owe this guy a lot, and he's a Fox news owner too, so I wonder
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 10:05 PM
Aug 2016

how many others are engaging in this "pay to play" business that they're projecting.

He's the 2nd largest shareholder at our favorite propaganda network.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
13. Prince Al-Waleed ought to send Trump a bill
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 10:35 PM
Aug 2016

demanding repayment for having bailed him out of bankruptcy. Maybe that'll teach the Apricot Asshole not to bite the hands that feed him.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
18. The plot thickens.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 01:25 PM
Aug 2016

My most sincere gratitude for all the voices in Saudi Arabia, and Iran for standing up when standing down is the easier, softer way.

ashredux

(2,599 posts)
19. Trump is all "smoke and mirrors"
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 02:17 PM
Aug 2016

Trump is all "smoke and mirrors"

His may not actually be solvent....he carries tremendous debt and lives off cash flow.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
42. And the Russians...don't forget the Russians!
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 11:53 PM
Aug 2016
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing


Over the last year there has been a recurrent refrain about the seeming bromance between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. More seriously, but relatedly, many believe Trump is an admirer and would-be emulator of Putin's increasingly autocratic and illiberal rule. But there's quite a bit more to the story. At a minimum, Trump appears to have a deep financial dependence on Russian money from persons close to Putin. And this is matched to a conspicuous solicitousness to Russian foreign policy interests where they come into conflict with US policies which go back decades through administrations of both parties. There is also something between a non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed financial support for Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two men.

Safe as Milk

(51 posts)
25. A possible subtext to Trump's entire campaign is that
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 07:13 PM
Aug 2016

he's one step ahead of being swallowed up by a massive collapse of his financial empire. His run for president was meant to shore up his brand and buy some time, but he got too popular and lost his focus. Now he's adrift in a presidential campaign that he's trying to make real, because to him, it's not.

He's overcharging on the use of his own properties. He's paying back his "donations" to his campaign to himself. He's a consummate narcissist. He's like a black hole. And then there's that even-more-evil twin, Bannon. Oh, crappers. He's one nasty storm trooper.

Just a few years ago, no one in Hollywood would accept a movie script like that would come close to paralleling Trump's story. It's ugly beyond anything fictional. We often can't recognize how extreme this campaign season is because so much extremism is becoming normalized. And it's not good.

Doodley

(9,048 posts)
29. Once upon a time there was a sad loser called Trump who dreamed of being saved by a handsome prince.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 07:50 PM
Aug 2016

"Save me, save me," cried the loser, as he sat in Trump Tower.
At that moment a handsome prince rode by and heard the effeminate cries of the pathetic Trump.
"Let me save you, Trump" said the prince.
"You are the wrong color for me!" protested the Trump. But Trump knew that money was even more important than prejudice and kissed the prince.
And the two lived happily ever after....until the prince realized the Trump was a complete and utter arsehole!



vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
31. The more you know about Trump, the more you are convinced that he is an ungrateful scammer.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 01:24 AM
Aug 2016

He really believes that the Prince trying to help him out was scammed by his superior intellect. After all I am white thinks Trump and the Prince is non white.

nightscanner59

(802 posts)
33. Hold the phone. Isn't this the same Saudi that owns controlling interests in Faux Noise?
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 12:27 PM
Aug 2016

Not that I'd have the slightest inkling what Faux is blathering about Trump, tend to assume they are TRUMPeteering the "patriots" into voting against their own interests as usual.

Free-Way-Fanny

(15 posts)
37. Took money from a Muslim? A Saudi Prince? Well then.....
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 11:55 AM
Aug 2016

.... he OBVIOUSLY has ties to the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!!1!1

I would suggest that he was the editor for a Sharia newspaper, but since he can't read, I guess that would be going too far.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
39. The Prince was half right:
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 04:02 PM
Aug 2016

"...the Saudi prince called on Trump to immediately withdraw from the presidential race describing him as a disgrace to the Republican Party and America."

A disgrace to America? Absolutely.

A disgrace to the Republican Party? The Republican Party nominated Trump to be their standard bearer. He is supported by their media and their financiers. He is an embarrassment, just as any horrible haircut or make-up job embarrasses the one who sees himself or herself in the mirror. But a disgrace? This is who they chose to be. This is who they are. He no more disgraces the Republican Party than an ant disgraces insects by having six legs.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
41. Kick...
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 06:10 PM
Aug 2016

Where's our Corp media on this? Have they reported any if this????

Is it true that wiki leaks has dirt on news organization big wigs....and is blackmailing them? Someone should look into this!

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
44. It feels like it was just last month when people were concerned
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 09:25 AM
Aug 2016

About foreign leaders trying to influence American elections. I guess that's over now.

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